2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Igotadose

MadYaker wrote: »

Why are you so determined to push this fantasy? It makes you look like an idiot.

Remind me again - where did Trump get his law degree from?

TheRepentent

Igotadose wrote: »

Remind me again - where did Trump get his law degree from?

That turd has a law degree ?

lol he can barely read.

Igotadose

TheRepentent wrote: »

That turd has a law degree ?

lol he can barely read.

Of course not. Some Trumplodyte early on was whining about a news item from sometime like 1980 where Biden claimed something about how he did in Uni when getting his law degree. So, you see, Biden lying about how he did in College (which I *think* he was asked about even further back, like in the 70's), when he was getting his law degree is as bad/worse than Trump's routine lying. It's clutching at straws at best. It is the kind of dirt dug up all the time in political campaigns.

ohnonotgmail

These are the emails that trump sends to his supporters looking for donations. They would make a nigerian prince blush. What sort of gullible idiot falls for this?

Billy Mays

I keep saying this, their lack of self awareness is really something

Donnie fanboys slating Biden for telling a few porkies and coming out with the odd verbal slip up is akin to Ryan Giggs having a go at someone for sleeping with their brother's missus

Timberrrrrrrr

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

These are the emails that trump sends to his supporters looking for donations. They would make a nigerian prince blush. What sort of gullible idiot falls for this?

Sweet jeebus, if they are the real thing then not only do they reek of desperation but it shows the level the R will stop to.

ohnonotgmail

Billy Mays wrote: »

I keep saying this, their lack of self awareness is really something

Donnie fanboys slating Biden for telling a few porkies and coming out with the odd verbal slip up is akin to Ryan Giggs having a go at someone for sleeping with their brother's missus

Closer to Ryan Giggs having a go at someone for once thinking their brother's missus had a nice arse

Igotadose

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

These are the emails that trump sends to his supporters looking for donations. They would make a nigerian prince blush. What sort of gullible idiot falls for this?

Uhhh....these look a bit too slick to be true. What's the original source? Thanks

ohnonotgmail

Igotadose wrote: »

Uhhh....these look a bit too slick to be true. What's the original source? Thanks

why do you doubt that a conman and fraudster would send out emails like that? they are very on-brand for trump.

https://twitter.com/BettyBowers/status/1261454402092744705
and some more i didnt include
https://twitter.com/JeriLRyan/status/1261833430062391299

Danzy

rossie1977 wrote: »

When in last 80 years was it the Democratic position:
* to ban muslims from entering the US
* To refer to Mexicans entering the US as dogs or criminals
* that an insanely expensive wall be built across 3000 miles of border
* To go against the UN charter on human rights regarding asylum seekers

Define patriotic and why do you think Trump and the Republicans are more patriotic than Obama, Clinton, Biden and the Democrats?

There is no Muslim ban, there is a ban on people from 7 failed or near failed States with large segments militarily hostile to Americans. The scheme started in December 2015 and has evolved since. Obama was right to do so, though he was criticized for it by many in his own party. It was right to evolve it. Failed States with no security. It's an obvious threat.

He said a lot were criminals, given their illegal entry, they could all be called criminal. His crack down on illegal migration has helped the US working class, especially African Americans and Hispanics. It has deeply angered Middle class White Americans who lose out on cheap labour.

Obama, Clinton have built more Wall than Trump has, to his shame. They were throwing a bone to their working class base.

The UN charter is built for a different time, of course they should be against it.

These are all positions that Democrats once took, that are frankly anti free market extremism, are solidly working class but in the increasingly upper middle class activist party of the Democrats, heretical views.

There is a large segment of the modern left that is deeply uncomfortable with the nation state, national identity etc etc.

That plays well among the activists, but it is the opposite of most working class voters.

It hammered Labour in to near century record defeat.

I liked Obama, felt he was top Wall St in the crash but his choice was limited.

Bush was and is a muppet.

Clinton did some good stuff but he was closer to Reagan than Trump is.

Joe Biden doesn't even know where he is now.

osarusan

I'd have doubts about whether those supposed donation emails/messages are genuine. Grammar and syntax errors along with everything else.

Outlaw Pete

rossie1977 wrote: »

When in last 80 years was it the Democratic position:

* To refer to Mexicans entering the US as dogs or criminals

Obama called them gangbangers and criminals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ4LZ4yikbs

And before you point out that Obama was not referring to ALL illegal immigrants ... neither was Trump.

Professor Moriarty

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Obama called them gangbangers and criminals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ4LZ4yikbs

And before you point out that Obama was not referring to ALL illegal immigrants ... neither was Trump.

Interestingly, in that very clip, Obama states that "...we shouldn't be separating families...". He's right.

Danzy

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Interestingly, in that very clip, Obama states that "...we shouldn't be separating families...". He's right.

Yet he did

If you took out the ramblings, trump wouldn't be that different to most US Presidents in last 40 years, least neo liberal in key issues and least militarily interventionist, that's it though.

Carfacemandog

Danzy wrote: »

Yet he did

No, that's trumps baby. And one his supporters were positively excited about at the time, too. Then, predictably as ever, when it proved massively unpopular the"Obama did it" lies began.

It's not just something that occurred under hsi presidency via Congress either, he specifically signed it ilunder executive order in 2018, with it largely being credited as the brainchild of that creepy white supremacist advisor of his Stephen Miller.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy

If you took out the ramblings, trump wouldn't be that different to most US Presidents in last 40 years, least neo liberal in key issues and least militarily interventionist, that's it though.

Sure, if you simply choose to outright ignore the insane amount of awful and unprecedented things he has done that might be true.

Danzy

Carfacemandog wrote: »

No, that's trumps baby. And one his supporters were positively excited about at the time, too. Then, predictably as ever, when it proved massively unpopular the"Obama did it" lies began.

It's not just something that occurred under hsi presidency via Congress either, he specifically signed it ilunder executive order in 2018, with it largely being credited as the brainchild of that creepy white supremacist advisor of his Stephen Miller.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy


Sure, if you simply choose to outright ignore the insane amount of awful and unprecedented things he has done that might be true.

It's a tough thing to do but circumstances made it necessary.


He certainly has upended the status quo on some issues, that's a good thing.

That's why he'll likely be reelected.

What insane or awful things has he done ?

ohnonotgmail

Obama did it.
Shown proof that trump did
well he had to do it

it is amazing how trump supporters argue the same way he does.

Brian?

Danzy wrote: »

It's a tough thing to do but circumstances made it necessary.


He certainly has upended the status quo on some issues, that's a good thing.

That's why he'll likely be reelected.

What insane or awful things has he done ?

That was seriously elegant climb down and pivot without ever acknowledging you were wrong.

duploelabs

Danzy wrote: »

It's a tough thing to do but circumstances made it necessary.


He certainly has upended the status quo on some issues, that's a good thing.

That's why he'll likely be reelected.

What insane or awful things has he done ?

(INSERTS HOMER HEDGE GIF)

Blueshoe

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

These are the emails that trump sends to his supporters looking for donations. They would make a nigerian prince blush. What sort of gullible idiot falls for this?

Fake news

Blueshoe

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Interestingly, in that very clip, Obama states that "...we shouldn't be separating families...". He's right.

Obama deported 1.18 million illegals in his first 3 years while Trump has deported 800k in the same length of time.

Sloppy numbers from both considering the amount of illegals in the country.

Timberrrrrrrr

Blueshoe wrote: »

Obama deported 1.18 million illegals in his first 3 years while Trump has deported 800k in the same length of time.

Sloppy numbers from both considering the amount of illegals in the country.

No one has said illegal immigrants shouldn't be deported though.

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No one has said illegal immigrants shouldn't be deported though.

I'm aware of that. I'm just giving the figures. The Us like all countries require immigration to grow its economy. All illegals should be removed and borders reinforced. Something similar to the Eu border with Africa at Melilla is ideal.

Quota based immigration similar to the Australian model is the best

ohnonotgmail

Blueshoe wrote: »

Fake news

how very trumpian

Brian?

Blueshoe wrote: »

Fake news

Is it?

hetuzozaho

Blueshoe wrote: »

Obama deported 1.18 million illegals in his first 3 years while Trump has deported 800k in the same length of time.

Sloppy numbers from both considering the amount of illegals in the country.

Does that mean you think Obama did a better job?

Blueshoe

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Does that mean you think Obama did a better job?

At deporting illegals? Yes far better.

He rounded them up and sent them home like no other president. What was even more impressive was he did it without talking or bragging about it like Trump.

Boggles

Blueshoe wrote: »

He rounded them up and sent them home like no other president.

Incorrect.

Clinton and Bush deported more.

Obama focused on criminals and new arrivals.

He balanced it out with amnesties for illegals who had made a life in the States.

Blueshoe

Boggles wrote: »

Incorrect.

Clinton and Bush deported more.

Obama focused on criminals and new arrivals.

He balanced it out with amnesties for illegals who had made a life in the States.

Not correct at all. For every 1 person bush deported 2 returned.
Obama removed them and they didn't come back. Large emphasis on border security.

Boggles

Blueshoe wrote: »

Not correct at all. For every 1 person bush deported 2 returned.
Obama removed them and they didn't come back. Large emphasis on border security.

Sorry what? Bush "undeported" people?

:pac:

Your statement was incorrect, don't be A Trump, accept and move on.