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What TDs will lose their seat?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Brexit apparently is not an issue on the doorsteps despite FG attempting to scaremonger about the future. All this half time nonsense is being treated as such by the electorate. It's irrelevant who is office as there was cross party support for the states position. Also FG have overstated their position in the talks.
    Covent was a failure in housing and couldn't get out of the portfolio fast enough.

    Party wise though he may seem a safer pair of hands, as pointed out he did get cross party support and was close runner up to Leo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Part wise though he may seem a safer pair of hands, as pointed out he did get cross party support and was close runner up to Leo.

    He was a close runner up to Leo......he was the choice of the grassroots. iirc Charlie Flanagan ran the vote for party leader and noone got to see the result.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    He was a close runner up to Leo......he was the choice of the grassroots. iirc Charlie Flanagan ran the vote for party leader and noone got to see the result.

    I don't know how Flanagan is doing but i have a feeling if he does get in he will be relegated to the back bench.

    The RIC debacle was an own goal they played running up to the election and he will be seen as the party member responsible for it. Locally apparently his posters are being defaced with RIC on them.

    Admittedly he wasn't the reason it became super heated but that wont save him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,105 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I don't think Fiona Foyle shares your pessimism here. He was on the party political broadcast midweek.

    He could be minister for anything in a few weeks if the country doesn't wise up.

    I am not an effeffer, but I think he has brains to burn.
    Fiona Foyle...decent drag queen name!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    gmisk wrote: »
    Fiona Foyle...decent drag queen name!

    A friend of Ivor Bigwan


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    He is gone either way, the TDs that pushed him for Taoiseach are retiring or losing their seats, cold house for Varadker after the election

    Good


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,045 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    gmisk wrote: »
    Fiona Foyle...decent drag queen name!

    Would work fantastically well for a Nordie queen; if FF and SDLP do actually merge considering they have recovered dominance in Foyle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Coveney will be reelected. One of the few FG TDs to have gained widespread cross party praise for his work the last few years. Cork would be stupid to not reelect him.

    He'd be a loss to the Dail.

    However, just like his brother, there'd be a juicy career in the private sector waiting for him if he did get the boot.

    Or he could become a director in RTE like his other brother who has no conflicts of interest there :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    prunudo wrote: »
    Would be a shame to see him exit politics, he's done great things during the Brexit talks. Always comes across reasoned and sensible unlike Varadkar who is liable to say anything.

    I know he is a better performer than Varadker and would probably make a better Taoiseach ,however I suspect all his time wandering around Brussell's and Westminister have let the homefires grow cold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    If Alan Farrell gets in with his dodgy claim I’ll be astonished.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Not a F&G supporter but convey would be a huge loss to the government and the dail if he is not elected. He was very good in his brief. If he does not get reflected for all his hard work there is something rotten in politics and people deserve who they get.

    As for shane Ross if the the people in his area vote him back in it just reinforces what I say. He must be the most incompetent minister in a generation and should be let no where near any position of power or influence. Completely out of his depth.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,152 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    AmberGold wrote: »
    If Alan Farrell gets in with his dodgy claim I’ll be astonished.


    I would be equally shocked if it`s Reilly and there most likely is a seat there for one of them.
    Two terrible candidates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,401 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Tileman wrote: »
    Not a F&G supporter but convey would be a huge loss to the government and the dail if he is not elected. He was very good in his brief. If he does not get reflected for all his hard work there is something rotten in politics and people deserve who they get.

    As for shane Ross if the the people in his area vote him back in it just reinforces what I say. He must be the most incompetent minister in a generation and should be let no where near any position of power or influence. Completely out of his depth.

    I can't stand Shane Ross. He makes my skin crawl.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Roadtoad wrote: »
    Kildare South: (3 available seats):
    No losers, Wall (l) in 4th place.

    Sean OFearghail is automatically retaining his seat as CC but the constituency is also going to a four seater, so there is a spare seat up for grabs there


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Its seems like a differnt age he was a "respected" journalist in the Sindo or on prime time as an economic commentator!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    I think Regina Doc is in with a good chance of getting the boot. There is only one FG seat in East Meath on those numbers and I would think it would not be hers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭votecounts


    Kildare South is a 3 seater with the Ceann Comhairle returned. 99% Positive


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Based on that RedC poll Mick Barry, Brid Smith, Ruth Coppinger, Paul Murphy and Gino Kenny will all lose their seats leaving probably just RBB from the Alphabet Soup hard-left brigade (unless they are the primary beneficiaries of SF not running enough candidates with transfers getting them through)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Coveney will be reelected. One of the few FG TDs to have gained widespread cross party praise for his work the last few years. Cork would be stupid to not reelect him.

    He'd be a loss to the Dail/QUOTE]

    Only got in by 500 votes last time but would be flabbergasted (and pretty upset, I must say) if not re-elected. A genuine statesman and future Taoiseach imo.
    Based on that RedC poll Mick Barry, Brid Smith, Ruth Coppinger, Paul Murphy and Gino Kenny will all lose their seats leaving probably just RBB from the Alphabet Soup hard-left brigade (unless they are the primary beneficiaries of SF not running enough candidates with transfers getting them through)

    Mick Barry is very popular in Cork and I would be surprised if he is not re-elected. Don't agree with his left-wing policies but admire his conviction. A proper socialist, unlike some (most!) of the current left-wing TDs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Augme wrote: »
    "Anybody who says that power isn’t attractive is telling you a lie. Of course it is,” he grins.

    “It’s obviously a drug. It’s attractive. It’s something you thrive on. It suits some people. It doesn’t suit others. I think it suits me.”


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/rightcol/alan-kelly-power-is-a-drug-it-suits-me-34410065.html

    OMG, he expressed a preference for being in government rather than opposition, for being in the Dáil rather than losing his seat? What arrogance :rolleyes: And all the others being humble enough to say they are not up to the job!
    Well at least he has pursued his political ambitions solely via the ballot box, unlike some arrogant others.

    McMurphy wrote: »
    Irish Water was a poisoned chalice..

    That is all.

    His programme would have had the guys with swimming pools in their mansions pay more than poor people. But the populists talked rubbish about double taxation. You are doubly taxed when you buy 20 fags. There is tax on the packet and the money you pay has already been diminished by income tax.
    Some people have the gall to call Kelly arrogant, while, thanks to the bully boys who intimidated workers installing meters, there are still people whose chalices are filled not so much with water as with something more akin to piss, because there is no money to fix water problems,


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Based on that RedC poll Mick Barry, Brid Smith, Ruth Coppinger, Paul Murphy and Gino Kenny will all lose their seats leaving probably just RBB from the Alphabet Soup hard-left brigade (unless they are the primary beneficiaries of SF not running enough candidates with transfers getting them through)

    Last time out they got 3.9% of the vote

    Effectively, for the smaller parties, their first preferences in opinion polls don’t matter. It’s all about transfers

    Also... there’s way too many people in here saying who they want to go, rather than who they think will go


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Tileman wrote: »
    Not a F&G supporter but convey would be a huge loss to the government and the dail if he is not elected. He was very good in his brief. If he does not get reflected for all his hard work there is something rotten in politics and people deserve who they get.

    As for shane Ross if the the people in his area vote him back in it just reinforces what I say. He must be the most incompetent minister in a generation and should be let no where near any position of power or influence. Completely out of his depth.



    Coveney might be a loss to the governemnt and the Dail, but With his record for the people of CSC and Cork in general He won’t be any loss to them.

    The problem Coveney has is that people who want to protest against FG in his constituency have nobody else to protest against, Buttimer is running but wasn’t in the last time anyway. Coveney could be the one to loose out to people going green or SF and going by his last election his base isn’t big anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,606 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Its seems like a differnt age he was a "respected" journalist in the Sindo or on prime time as an economic commentator!

    Respected would be stretching it.

    Hurling from the ditch, great man to have all the answers, yet when handed a relatively simple portfolio has managed to make a bags of everything he's turned his hand to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    gmisk wrote: »
    Let's hope so.
    I saw those posters....hmmm...odd

    A white supremacist in a poster with a mixed race dog!

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    L1011 wrote: »
    Would work fantastically well for a Nordie queen; if FF and SDLP do actually merge considering they have recovered dominance in Foyle.

    SDLP would be wiser not to align with a southern party. They will have enough to contend with besides being blamed for the sins of the latter. And not all of their supporters have a preference for FF or any other party in the South. Some of those who have pushed for amalgamation are more interested in promoting their own Dàil careers than in the wellbeing of a constitutional Northern party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 fx83wab


    Coveney might be a loss to the governemnt and the Dail, but With his record for the people of CSC and Cork in general He won’t be any loss to them.

    The problem Coveney has is that people who want to protest against FG in his constituency have nobody else to protest against, Buttimer is running but wasn’t in the last time anyway. Coveney could be the one to loose out to people going green or SF and going by his last election his base isn’t big anyway.

    If you're electing a TD, you're electing them for the Dáil and the possibility of government. TDs operate on a national level. This idea of parish pump politics should be left to the councillors. It's a major problem we have with politics and elections in this country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,480 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Stephen Donnelly in Wicklow in trouble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,589 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    fx83wab wrote: »
    If you're electing a TD, you're electing them for the Dáil and the possibility of government. TDs operate on a national level. This idea of parish pump politics should be left to the councillors. It's a major problem we have with politics and elections in this country.

    Sure they operate on a national level around issues of national importance, but the TD that doesn’t go to bat for his area doesn’t stay a TD. They have to do both, unless your a Healy-Rae or a Lowry you just have to look after your own. Shane Ross made sure and get his area plenty of funding while looking after national issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Stephen Donnelly in Wicklow in trouble.

    I've heard this being said quite a few times now, seriously?

    I'm not from that area, and I'd guess there's a fair bit of animosity towards him going from being an Independent > Social Democrat > FF.

    However I believe he is one of the more intelligent TDs in the Dail, and the people in Wicklow would be basically cutting of their noses to spite the face.

    I've voted for candidates loads of times before despite not being too impress with their respective party's (FF/FG namely)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Ruth Coppinger appears to be likely to lose her seat as does Brid Smith.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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