Amber Heard admits to beating up Johnny Depp

ILoveYourVibes

Raconteuse wrote: »

On the cusp of Gemini though.

Worst of both worlds.:(

Potential-Monke

Actually, if you really want to believe in that crap, ye are both wrong, as according to NASA, she would now be an Aries: https://www.inverse.com/article/21990-how-to-find-new-zodiac-sign

ILoveYourVibes

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Actually, if you really want to believe in that crap, ye are both wrong, as according to NASA, she would now be an Aries: https://www.inverse.com/article/21990-how-to-find-new-zodiac-sign

No she is taurus. Nasa know nothing.

Ipso

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No she is taurus. Nasa know nothing.

They’re as good as anyone to ask about random patterns.

Sawduck

And still the crazy twitter feminists defend her

LillySV

Ironicname wrote: »

It is absolutely not bullying to call out your disgusting attitude for what it is.

The fact that you think it is speaks volumes.

You think that telling vast swathes of people who you know zero about their situation to man up is perfectly acceptable, yet you call it bullying when people rightly tell you that your outlook is appalling and that it reflects badly on you.

Victimhood complex is only acceptable for you it seems, everyone else is a "snowflake" who needs to grow a pair.

You seem to have a long history of accusing people of things and trying to start arguments... why don’t you get outside today and go for a walk, clear your mind

Galwayguy35

Larbre34 wrote: »

You simply cannot conflate persistent chronic lower level domestic abuse by either partner with a single, horrific and thankfully rare incident of infanticide by a woman obviously suffering mental health issues beyond the comprehension of the average person.

If it was a man he would rightly be called an alleged murderer, the double standard here is sickening.

Wibbs

Raconteuse wrote: »

But how does she look like a woman who has issues with men?

Well there were accusations of abuse in one of her previous relationships with a woman, so it seems she's just prone to resorting to aggression regardless of the gender involved.

I'd be no fan of Depp, and in this case it does seem like there was a pair of them in it, but with Depp's previous relationships, most of them long term enough for Hollywood there wasn't the sniff of this kinda thing from him. Indeed his exes have supported him, including the wife who he left for Heard.

Dr. Bre

Amber hurt more like

DeanAustin

anewme wrote: »

And this is why men feel compelled to say nothing when impacted by domestic abuse.

Exactly right. I've been through this. The reaction from everyone is that "you're a bloke, you're bigger than her, she can't actually hurt you." Even my mates sort of dismissed it as one of those things.

The attitude towards domestic abuse against men is an absolute disgrace. It focuses purely on the physical aspect of the damage and not on the emotional impact of it.

Women are so much better than men at highlighting wrongs against their gender. Women have done a brilliant job of righting the wrongs of domestic and sexual abuse against them amongst other things. For some reason, broadly speaking, men are just as complicit in allowing stuff like this to go unhighlighted as women.

DeanAustin

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

If it was a man he would rightly be called an alleged murderer, the double standard here is sickening.

In my job, some of the girls said the other day "I don't trust the dad. He had the photo out too soon and he's been too visible in the media. Like a woman wouldn't do that unless there was something going on. I don't trust him."

Based on what we know at this point I was astounded. Undoubtedly this sort of situation is more shocking when a woman does it but the double standard is ridiculous.

Raconteuse

Wibbs wrote: »

Well there were accusations of abuse in one of her previous relationships with a woman, so it seems she's just prone to resorting to aggression regardless of the gender involved.

Oh I don't disagree, but that poster said she looks like a woman who has issues with men. Literally "looks like" - from a photograph.

Just wondering how they could come to such an absurd conclusion.

"I dunno, I feel bad for saying this but she kind of looks like a woman who is with a man but doesn't actually like men. God, it's awful but I feel like I've seen women like her a lot and I think they get unhappy and vindictive. 
I look at her and I see someone hot, but there be sharks boys" - wtf? :pac:

anewme

Raconteuse wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree, but that poster said she looks like a woman who has issues with men. Literally "looks like" - from a photograph. :pac:

Just wondering how they could come to such an absurd conclusion.

That was the way I read it initially too. That it was just based on looks. Especially as his last comment referenced her physical appearance.

Raconteuse

Larbre34 wrote: »

You simply cannot conflate persistent chronic lower level domestic abuse by either partner with a single, horrific and thankfully rare incident of infanticide by a woman obviously suffering mental health issues beyond the comprehension of the average person.

I never found evidence of abuse by him - just speculation - and why couldn't he have been experiencing severe mental health issues?

DeanAustin wrote: »

In my job, some of the girls said the other day "I don't trust the dad. He had the photo out too soon and he's been too visible in the media. Like a woman wouldn't do that unless there was something going on. I don't trust him.".

:mad:

Fuq people who say that kind of stuff.

My heart hurts for that poor man.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Wibbs wrote: »

Well there were accusations of abuse in one of her previous relationships with a woman, so it seems she's just prone to resorting to aggression regardless of the gender involved.

I'd be no fan of Depp, and in this case it does seem like there was a pair of them in it, but with Depp's previous relationships, most of them long term enough for Hollywood there wasn't the sniff of this kinda thing from him. Indeed his exes have supported him, including the wife who he left for Heard.

Can I just say that prior to yesterday’s admission, the accusations against Heard didn’t amount to more than the accusations Heard made against Depp. Heard was arrested for hitting her ex-partner but the charges were dropped and her partner said she had been wrongfully accused. Before yesterday, if one were to believe Heard was more violent than Depp, they wouldn’t have had much to go on. A dropped charge and that was it.

nkl12xtw5goz70

Sawduck wrote: »

And still the crazy twitter feminists defend her

It's highlighting the problems with #BelieveWomen, #MeToo, and similar hashtag movements. When a woman turns out to be an abuser and a liar, the cognitive dissonance is too overwhelming for many.

Men can abuse women. Women can also abuse men. Domestic abuse exists in same-sex relationships, too.

We need to rethink the entire narrative around domestic abuse so that every victim gets the support he or she needs.

Sarcozies

Looking at all the politicians canvassing and I was thinking - if you're running for election, it's mutually beneficial to both society and the candidate to speak on domestic violence against women. The opposite is actually not the case.

If you are to bring up these statistics in the thread and about the general lack of awareness that men can be victims and the lack of any real interest in addressing the problem you're actually taking a gamble as a politician. That's the ****ed up environment activists are fighting in.

Ironicname

LillySV wrote:

You seem to have a long history of accusing people of things and trying to start arguments... why don’t you get outside today and go for a walk, clear your mind

I really don't.

I just asked if you were a man or a woman out of pure curiousity.

I don't want to argue with you. I just find your attitude abhorrent. There is no argument there.

Potential-Monke

Raconteuse wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree, but that poster said she looks like a woman who has issues with men. Literally "looks like" - from a photograph.

Could be along the same lines as when someone is caught as a paedophile. Nearly everyone says the same thing, "shur look at it, you'd know he's a paedo", or "you can tell he was a rapist". Having a quick Google, one could easily say that there's something in her eyes, she's distant looking or you could tell there's something going on behind those eyes. If she lived a happy life without any drama, that's all it would amount to, but now that it's coming out that she's physically violent in relationships, the connection can be made and people can then make these assumptions.

Just my 2c. Anyone who abuses the person they're supposed to love, be it physical or mental, is a scumbag, simple as.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Could be along the same lines as when someone is caught as a paedophile. Nearly everyone says the same thing, "shur look at it, you'd know he's a paedo", or "you can tell he was a rapist". Having a quick Google, one could easily say that there's something in her eyes, she's distant looking or you could tell there's something going on behind those eyes. If she lived a happy life without any drama, that's all it would amount to, but now that it's coming out that she's physically violent in relationships, the connection can be made and people can then make these assumptions.

Just my 2c. Anyone who abuses the person they're supposed to love, be it physical or mental, is a scumbag, simple as.

That’s true. Heard is a top-tier Beautiful PersonTM. No way in hell would anyone think there was anything off about her if this didn’t come out.

creditcarder

Raconteuse wrote: »

Oh I don't disagree, but that poster said she looks like a woman who has issues with men. Literally "looks like" - from a photograph.

Just wondering how they could come to such an absurd conclusion.

"I dunno, I feel bad for saying this but she kind of looks like a woman who is with a man but doesn't actually like men. God, it's awful but I feel like I've seen women like her a lot and I think they get unhappy and vindictive.
I look at her and I see someone hot, but there be sharks boys" - wtf? :pac:

Hahhahaah! yup



I dunno tbh. I feel like it's a bit of a harsh femeninitey or something. I have a lot of girls come to my house for work and I feel like I have picked up a sixth sense in regards to women to watch out for. You know, to see if they 'ask to pay me later', if they will get overly attached during the conversation, or just be a bit of a ****.

statesaver

Wonder will she be charged with making false accusations. One can only hope.

Gwynplaine

She probably got sick of seeing him play the same character in every film he's in

anewme

creditcarder wrote: »

Hahhahaah! yup



I dunno tbh. I feel like it's a bit of a harsh femeninitey or something. I have a lot of girls come to my house for work and I feel like I have picked up a sixth sense in regards to women to watch out for. You know, to see if they 'ask to pay me later', if they will get overly attached during the conversation, or just be a bit of a ****.

No idea what you mean by ask to pay me later? What work are they doing?

Raconteuse

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Could be along the same lines as when someone is caught as a paedophile. Nearly everyone says the same thing, "shur look at it, you'd know he's a paedo", or "you can tell he was a rapist".

Yep, probably something like that all right.

Deebles McBeebles

Gwynplaine wrote: »

She probably got sick of seeing him play the same character in every film he's in

I wonder how people would take that comment if he was beating her. Not well, I'd assume.

Turquoise Hexagon Sun

It's worth noting that comic and friend of Depp, Doug Stanhope, always publically defended Depp and thought Heard's claim were bogus.

From Howard Stern...

Dicussion on JRE

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

It's worth noting that comic and friend of Depp, Doug Stanhope, always publically defended Depp and thought Heard's claim were bogus.

Doesn’t that make him partial though, being a friend? It’s academic at this point because we know more now but prior to the recent revelations, I gotta say a friend saying about somebody “He/she is a top person” or whatever isn’t hugely convincing.

Rufeo

I just googled her there. Man, she looks like a real piece of work. No, not digging it at all at all.

pinkyeye

tritium wrote: »

You do get that 29% of women and 26% of men suffer domestic abuse in Ireland right? You do realize that the funding is about €20m in one case and under a million in the other right?

These are COSCs statistics


• 15% of women and 6% of men suffer severe domestic abuse
• 29% of women and 26% of men suffer domestic abuse when severe abuse and minor incidents are combined
• 13% of women and 13% of men suffer physical abuse or minor physical incidents and
• 29% of women (1 in 3) and only 5% of men (1 in 20) report to the Gardaí.

The 1 in 20 men reporting stat doesn’t surprise me in the slightest when I read posts like yours

What's the COSCs? And where is the back up for this? I don't believe it.

Raconteuse

She's a piece of work because of her behaviour, but how does how she *looks* indicate this? Because she's beautiful?

Silentcorner

pinkyeye wrote: »

What's the COSCs? And where is the back up for this? I don't believe it.

I think it was the CSO (Central Statistics Office the poster meant)...but how is unbelievable?

It has been known for a long time now, that in the case of non reciprocal domestic violence, that is a one sided domestic violence where one partner and one partner only engages in abuse, that women are twice as likely as a man to be abusive.


Quote from Harvard Study

(https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sided )

When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).

If you don't believe that women can be as abusive as men in relationships you have been sold a pup.

nkl12xtw5goz70

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think it was the CSO (Central Statistics Office the poster meant)...but how is unbelievable?

No, it's The National Office for the Prevention of Domestic, Sexual and Gender-based Violence, also known as Cosc. See cosc.ie.

creditcarder

Raconteuse wrote: »

She's a piece of work because of her behaviour, but how does how she *looks* indicate this? Because she's beautiful?

Don't be silly Raconteuse.

silverharp

I assume she is cancelled now and wont be in Aquaman 2?

JupiterKid

There are so many men out there, suffering in silence from domestic abuse by a female spouse who may instigate physical, emotional and verbal abuse. And are master manipulators to boot. Society still sees men who are victims of domestic abuse as “weak” or the subject of ridicule - or just invisible.

Female instigators of domestic abuse will also use children as a weapon against their male partner. I know a guy from my rehab days who very nearly drank himself to death over emotional abuse from his former partner and her refusing him access to his son.

We have to change the broken record narrative so successfully disseminated by women’s advocacy groups that women are the only victims in domestic abuse situations. Yes, the issue of domestic abuse needs to be addressed as effectively as possible but please let’s have some more balance to this issue.*

*there are also situations of where same-sex abusers are women against their female partners, and of course male victims of abuse where the perpetrator is their gay male partner.

creditcarder

JupiterKid wrote: »

There are so many men out there, suffering in silence from domestic abuse by a female spouse who may instigate physical, emotional and verbal abuse. And are master manipulators to boot. Society still sees men who are victims of domestic abuse as “weak” or the subject of ridicule - or just invisible.

Female instigators of domestic abuse will also use children as a weapon against their male partner. I know a guy from my rehab days who very nearly drank himself to death over emotional abuse from his former partner and her refusing him access to his son.

We have to change the broken record narrative so successfully disseminated by women’s advocacy groups that women are the only victims in domestic abuse situations. Yes, the issue of domestic abuse needs to be addressed as effectively as possible but please let’s have some more balance to this issue.*

*there are also situations of where same-sex abusers are women against their female partners, and of course male victims of abuse where the perpetrator is their gay male partner.

Nah, you can see them a mile off. It's only because society goes along with them.

Raconteuse

Well the men who end up with them don't spot them.

We're all part of society.

creditcarder wrote: »

Don't be silly Raconteuse.

Then how do her looks make her appear a piece of work?

Just answer the question instead of being all passive aggressive (similar to a closed account called Reviews and Books Galore).

Raconteuse

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think it was the CSO (Central Statistics Office the poster meant)...but how is unbelievable?

It has been known for a long time now, that in the case of non reciprocal domestic violence, that is a one sided domestic violence where one partner and one partner only engages in abuse, that women are twice as likely as a man to be abusive.


Quote from Harvard Study

(https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sided )

When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).

If you don't believe that women can be as abusive as men in relationships you have been sold a pup.

I doubt anyone with any sense believes women can't be as abusive as men. The idea that women can be MORE abusive than men is more of a challenge though.

I'm a person who believes in 50/50 for most behaviours in terms of the sexes. In this case though, I believe women are more likely to be abusive, mentally in particular - not because women are inherently more abusive as people, but because it's more accepted (by men and women). It's more acceptable for a woman to ridicule and verbally abuse her husband/partner. Men are physically stronger overall and severe injury or death is more likely to be perpetrated by men, however more low level (but still unacceptable) violence by women to men is more accepted.

In the film The Gentlemen, there is a part in which a man is grotesquely violated. And it's used as a comedic device. The audience were in knots when I saw it - I was just going "wtf?!"

Die Hard 2019

Raconteuse wrote: »

I doubt anyone with any sense believes women can't be as abusive as men. The idea that women can be MORE abusive than men is more of a challenge though.

I'm a person who believes in 50/50 for most behaviours in terms of the sexes. In this case though, I believe women are more likely to be abusive, mentally in particular - not because women are inherently more abusive as people, but because it's more accepted (by men and women). It's more acceptable for a woman to ridicule and verbally abuse her husband/partner. Men are physically stronger overall and severe injury or death is more likely to be perpetrated by men, however more low level (but still unacceptable) violence by women to men is more accepted.

In the film The Gentlemen, there is a part in which a man is grotesquely violated. And it's used as a comedic device. The audience were in knots when I saw it - I was just going "wtf?!"

Actually it's not clear what happened but I agree that if he had been a woman people wod not have laughed and that's because of perception. The scene where MD is in danger certainly wasn't laughed at.

The number one sexual abusers of men is clearly the same gender as the number one abusers of women but the discussion is about domestic abuse.

creditcarder

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

Actually it's not clear what happened but I agree that if he had been a woman people wod not have laughed and that's because of perception. The scene where MD is in danger certainly wasn't laughed at.

The number one sexual abusers of men is clearly the same gender as the number one abusers of women but the discussion is about domestic abuse.

Actually, statistics have shown that women commit rape 40-50 % of the time under the absurd specifications that class certain acts as rape.

creditcarder

Raconteuse wrote: »

Well the men who end up with them don't spot them.

We're all part of society.

Then how do her looks make her appear a piece of work?

Just answer the question instead of being all passive aggressive (similar to a closed account called Reviews and Books Galore).

Eh, when you've been around the block enough (as a man who likes women) you learn how to spot things and know if a woman is a bit of a ****.

Raconteuse

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

Actually it's not clear what happened but I agree that if he had been a woman people wod not have laughed and that's because of perception. The scene where MD is in danger certainly wasn't laughed at.

The number one sexual abusers of men is clearly the same gender as the number one abusers of women but the discussion is about domestic abuse.

Wasn't making any statement in that regard (see what I said before it) - just giving an example of how accepted it is for men to be abused in certain contexts.

Raconteuse

creditcarder wrote: »

Eh, when you've been around the block enough (as a man who likes women) you learn how to spot things and know if a woman is a bit of a ****.

No you can't tell by a person's (why just women?) looks whether they are a cuntt.

creditcarder

Raconteuse wrote: »

No you can't tell by a person's (why just women?) looks whether they are a cuntt.

Yeah, grand.

Die Hard 2019

Raconteuse wrote: »

Wasn't making any statement in that regard (see what I said before it) - just giving an example of how accepted it is for men to be abused in certain contexts.

It was a movie and it wasn't shown it was left to the audience imagination and if was sexual abuse by a villan not domestic by a partner

Die Hard 2019

creditcarder wrote: »

Actually, statistics have shown that women commit rape 40-50 % of the time under the absurd specifications that class certain acts as rape.

Sorry what? Do you mean drunk ? It's still not rape, rape requires penetration by the little pianist

silverharp

There is a petition up for her to lose her role in the next Aquaman movie, over 100K signatures

silverharp

silverharp wrote: »

There is a petition up for her to lose her role in the next Aquaman movie, over 100K signatures

I don't believe we should be encouraging this "cancel culture", since it's something that can easily be applied badly (which it has). Her personal life should be separate from her career.

By all means, voice a disapproval of such behavior, but I really don't like this mob mentality. It's one of the reasons the internet has turned all nasty, and justifies the behavior of the SJWs/feminists in targeting those they don't approve of.

nthclare

I experienced this before with an American lady it starts off on the first date you think you've met the most amazing person ever.
Extremely attractive and charming.
They are quite shock and awe, kind of start off with a playful insult, and im only kidding you etc

Then the playful slaps start, but tee hee im only kidding.

Then you're going along okish and all of a sudden you forgot to text them back...

Then after one mistake you're in for a roller-coaster ride of trauma bonding, intense cycles of hot and cold.
Amazing make up sex for the traumatic nuclear fallout and this rinses and repeats.

Men and women are culpable of being the victim and perpetrator of abuse and enabling the abuse.

So best run as fast as possible when the playful slaps start and the ohhh im only kidding...