Thinking of Voting Sinn Fein - Should I?

jimmycrackcorm

Snow Garden wrote: »

I don't care if you vote for SF or not but please don't vote for FFG. They have failed the state.

We didn't have a housing crisis when FF tab the economy into the ground and we had to demolish ghost estates. Now we have a housing crisis because the economy is booming under FG.

So we need s party that will bring is back plenty of spare houses through economic decline and emigration. SF sounds perfect for this.

Geuze

thegetawaycar wrote: »

I hadn't seen the stamp duty increase from SF. Holy ****, everyone will have to jump on the housing list.
My mortgage from the bank wouldn't allow me borrow for stamp duty. If we can't get deposits of 10% together how the **** do we get a stamp duty of 12.5% together?

A 300K house may seem affordable but addiing on the - 37.5k needed for stamp duty that's needed upfront certainly makes it difficult!

It's 12.5% proposed on commercial property.

Eric Cartman

Geuze wrote: »

It's 12.5% proposed on commercial property.

Thats still obscene, especially when you consider their social house buildinng program, those houses will need services....which are in commercial premises... this would condemn new developments to being commuter ghost towns and eventual hellholes

Geuze

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Thats still obscene, especially when you consider their social house buildinng program, those houses will need services....which are in commercial premises... this would condemn new developments to being commuter ghost towns and eventual hellholes

Is SD paid on new construction?

Or just sales of existing stock?

Idbatterim

Deleted User wrote: »

Obviously Ireland doesn't have the physical or financial resources of China, but China built a new hospital in 9 days.

They didn't spend 9 months waiting for consultants reports and another 6 months for the Architects design.

The entire nation is waiting for someone to step up and f#£king accomplish something.

exactly, I am not willing them to fail. I wish someone would bloody deliver! I really think this SF thing is the serious kick up the hole they need, I bet you will start seeing some urgency now!

ELM327

Trizo wrote: »

Opportunistic accidental landlords ??? this doesn't even make sense? Do you even understand what you are typing ?

He's perfectly qualified as an SF supporter.

Diceicle

Fol20 wrote: »

So basically your ok with everything here as it doesn’t impact you negatively?

Am I ok with raising the higher tax band to 50k and putting a 5% rate on anything over 140k?
Yeah.

jimmycrackcorm

Diceicle wrote: »

Am I ok with raising the higher tax band to 50k and putting a 5% rate on anything over 140k?
Yeah.

Maybe so but adding the not paying USC up to 30k is another form of inequality. It creates a greater divide between those who pay the most Vs those who pay little or nothing.

If you're ok about an additional tax on salaries over 140k, does that mean you're also ok with making it more unattractive to recruit much needed hospital consultants to come here to work in our hospitals?

is_that_so

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Maybe so but adding the not paying USC up to 30k is another form of inequality. It creates a greater divide between those who pay the most Vs those who pay little or nothing.

If you're ok about an additional tax on salaries over 140k, does that mean you're also ok with making it more unattractive to recruit much needed hospital consultants to come here to work in our hospitals?

That USC abolition cost is €1.2bn and the LPT together with it would get us another NCH!

smurgen

is_that_so wrote: »

That USC abolition cost is €1.2bn and the LPT together with it would get us another NCH!

If the NCH had have come it on budget we could have got rid of both.

Edgware

Diceicle wrote: »

Am I ok with raising the higher tax band to 50k and putting a 5% rate on anything over 140k?
Yeah.

Try and employ a consultant under that tax regime and you will see how bad waiting lists can go

NIMAN

Edgware wrote: »

It's not that S.F. are going to win 80 seats. There are several constituencies where they are running candidates
who just are up against three or four strong T.Ds.

They can hardly get 80 seats when they are running 42 candidates.

Edgware

NIMAN wrote: »

They can hardly get 80 seats when they are running 42 candidates.

With the way they manipulate their economic figures they might use the same magic beans to convert 42 into 80

brendanwalsh

What was the IRA question ?
(Didn’t get to watch it)

rob316

Our income tax rate combined with USC is already high I'm not in favour of raising it regardless of earnings. There is plenty of other things to tax than targeting already scarce well qualified professionals.

suicide_circus

rob316 wrote: »

Our income tax rate combined with USC is already high I'm not in favour of raising it regardless of earnings. There is plenty of other things to tax than targeting already scarce well qualified professionals.

at least SF wont tax their homes!

anewme

suicide_circus wrote: »

at least SF wont tax their homes!

They will when you die and want to leave your home The home you've paid for already out of your after tax income.

They want to up CAT tax.

Edgware

Meanwhile back at S.F. H.Q.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQU6e-r06Z4

topmanamillion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Obviously Ireland doesn't have the physical or financial resources of China, but China built a new hospital in 9 days.

They didn't spend 9 months waiting for consultants reports and another 6 months for the Architects design.

The entire nation is waiting for someone to step up and f#£king accomplish something.

Have you seen it? It looks like the fever hospitals of 1930s in this country. Prefab units and long corridors. Its a place for people to die. Not a hospital.

The children's hospital has been a complete disaster. Any of these state projects should have 5 senior ministers + the Taoiseach attached to them. If they make a balls of it, they're all out the door with a good chunk of their pensions forfeited.
That would be accountability and there'd be a lot less of the boll*cks we see now.

Jinglejangle69

topmanamillion wrote: »

Have you seen it? It looks like the fever hospitals of 1930s in this country. Prefab units and long corridors. Its a place for people to die. Not a hospital.

The children's hospital has been a complete disaster. Any of these state projects should have 5 senior ministers + the Taoiseach attached to them. If they make a balls of it, they're all out the door with a good chunk of their pensions forfeited.
That would be accountability and there'd be a lot less of the boll*cks we see now.

When I see people bring up the China hospital I know we've reached a new level of stupidity.

i hear mary lou dropped a "mansplain" in a serious political debate

that should see them drop to 0%, the cringe

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

i hear mary lou dropped a "mansplain" in a serious political debate

that should see them drop to 0%, the cringe

Its nearly as bad as the IRA fetish some have.

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

Its nearly as bad as the IRA fetish some have.

thats a very telling equivalence youve drawn there, ooof

jimgoose

Deleted User wrote: »

i hear mary lou dropped a "mansplain" in a serious political debate

that should see them drop to 0%, the cringe

She did. It was in the context of banks paying corporation tax, and Martin said something like "Let me tell you about corporation tax!", to which she retorted "Ooh, you're going to mansplain corporation tax to me!". Fat gowl.

topmanamillion

[Deleted User] wrote: »

i hear mary lou dropped a "mansplain" in a serious political debate

that should see them drop to 0%, the cringe

Reckon using "mansplain" in a sentence probably upped her approval rating in her core demographic of 18 - 35 year olds.
She probably went into the debate planning to use it if either of the other two attempted to explain anything to her. Pretty likely in a leaders debate. Shrewd in a crass sort of way.

marieholmfan

jimgoose wrote: »

She did. It was in the context of banks paying corporation tax, and Martin said something like "Let me tell you about corporation tax!", to which she retorted "Ooh, you're going to mansplain corporation tax to me!". Fat gowl.

Looking in a mirror again Jim?

thequarefellow

jimgoose wrote: »

She did. It was in the context of banks paying corporation tax, and Martin said something like "Let me tell you about corporation tax!", to which she retorted "Ooh, you're going to mansplain corporation tax to me!". Fat gowl.

Your comeback is almost as good as hers;)

Loafing Oaf

topmanamillion wrote: »

Reckon using "mansplain" in a sentence probably upped her approval rating in her core demographic of 18 - 35 year olds.

And reinforced FF's "pale, male & stale" image among that crowd. You could just hear them whooping "You go girl" when she dropped that in...

Snow Garden

The fear of SF is actually enjoyable to watch on here. The FFG supporters really are scared. Gas.

jimgoose

marieholmfan wrote: »

Looking in a mirror again Jim?

thequarefellow wrote: »

Your comeback is almost as good as hers;)

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And reinforced FF's "pale, male & stale" image among that crowd. You could just hear them whooping "You go girl" when she dropped that in...

Snow Garden wrote: »

The fear of SF is actually enjoyable to watch on here. The FFG supporters really are scared. Gas.

Let's see the condition of ye after twelve months of Snowball and her Equal Pigs' governance, if she gets in. To Hell with ye! :pac: