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Thinking of Voting Sinn Fein - Should I?

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    #182
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    mikeecho wrote: »
    SF is a vote for green diesel, kneecappings, organised crime, and massive taxation for the working Joe.

    I've met and spoken with Mary Lou and Gerry , and they are really really nice people.
    I had great craic with them, but no way would I vote for them.

    Is that you Leo?


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    #183
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    mikeecho wrote: »
    SF is a vote for green diesel, kneecappings, organised crime, and massive taxation for the working Joe.

    I've met and spoken with Mary Lou and Gerry , and they are really really nice people.
    I had great craic with them, but no way would I vote for them.

    999 and give all your info so.


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    #184
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    The way Brian Dobson treated Mary Lou in that interview has made my mind up. What a bully he is, his whole demeanour in the interview was aggressive compared to Leo and martins interview. RTE are shameless really, no attempt whatsoever to remain impartial.

    I am not a fan of SF or Mary Lou but Brian Dobson was disgraceful in that interview . He kept interrupting her asking questions then not allowing her answer . I actually think she could well have gained votes from it as people saw through the tactics shown


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    #185
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    a left wing party done something to the mccabe family? Are you a trainee whatabouterer by any chance?
    anewme wrote: »
    They really cared about the McCabe family.


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    #186
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    I have to say if the argument against SF is what the IRA done then the opposition really is scraping the barrel (que the "at least its not the barrel of a gun" quips)


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    #187
    [Deleted User]
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    mikeecho wrote: »
    SF is a vote for green diesel, kneecappings, organised crime, and massive taxation for the working Joe.

    .

    They’ll be the Greens, but on speed, when it comes to taxation - someone earning 50k gross a year will be considered “rich” and will be taxed to oblivion - it’s the only way they can pay for all their stupid empty promises -


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    #188
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They’ll be the Greens, but on speed, when it comes to taxation - someone earning 50k gross a year will be considered “rich” and will be taxed to oblivion - it’s the only way they can pay for all their stupid empty promises -

    regardless of sf saying that the figure is at least twice that


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    #189
    [Deleted User]
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    maccored wrote: »
    regardless of sf saying that the figure is at least twice that

    And you believe them?


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    #190
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And you believe them?

    quicker than I'd believe you. theres a word for what you're doing - scaremongering


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    #191
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    mikeecho wrote: »
    SF is a vote for green diesel, kneecappings, organised crime, and massive taxation for the working Joe.

    I've met and spoken with Mary Lou and Gerry , and they are really really nice people.
    I had great craic with them, but no way would I vote for them.

    Hopefully you don't break your kneecap falling off a hospital trolley.


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    #192
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    maccored wrote: »
    a left wing party done something to the mccabe family? Are you a trainee whatabouterer by any chance?

    Trainee nothing.

    It was SF not IRA who chose to embrace these cold blooded murderers on their release from prison.

    Im just someone who remembers the disgraceful conduct of SF in the not too distant past.

    I believe the McCabe family have urged people not to vote SF in the recent past?

    Real people hurting impacted by political games.


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    #193
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I'm as right wing as David Beckham but there is one thing that is for certain, I'm not getting my truly right wing government.

    The economy will go to bust within a few years anyway no matter what party takes over. Even though socialism has a 100% fail rate, it usually has a decent period before everyone else's money is spent. I may as well enjoy the next few years before the next crash, as opposed to the misery under FG/FF of which the economy will crash anyway.

    So my thoughts on SF in government is f**k it, we're gonna get screwed anyway. Whether it be from socialism or being sold out to the EU or the Greens.


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    #194
    [Deleted User]
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    maccored wrote: »
    quicker than I'd believe you. theres a word for what you're doing - scaremongering

    Ha ha- scaremongering - I love it :D

    I guess your SF election buddies told you to say that in their “how to attack non-believers on social media” training day - don’t stop believing ;)


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    #195
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ha ha- scaremongering - I love it :D

    I guess your SF election buddies told you to say that in their “how to attack non-believers on social media” training day - don’t stop believing ;)

    yeah - course they did (is that what your meant to say to delusional people?)

    The other phrase is "talking ****" but I prefer scaremongering


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    #196
    [Deleted User]
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    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Hopefully you don't break your kneecap falling off a hospital trolley.

    There’s a shortage of hospital trollies so you’d be lucky to be on one.


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    #197
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Any truth in the rumour that SF have actually now topped the Ipsos MRBI poll and FG down now to 20% for the Irish Times at 25%

    First time ever.


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    #198
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    anewme wrote: »
    Trainee nothing.

    It was SF not IRA who chose to embrace these cold blooded murderers on their release from prison.

    Im just someone who remembers the disgraceful conduct of SF in the not too distant past.

    I believe the McCabe family have urged people not to vote SF in the recent past?

    Real people hurting impacted by political games.

    Yes - the north is full of people hurting - Im sure you really care about those too. What? You didnt think about them because you havent heard them mentioned in a debate so then you couldnt use their names to think you are scoring cheap points? My my.

    The south of ireland is also a place where people are suffering under our very own government. some have even died. catch a grip and spare me the fake caring.


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    #199
    _Kaiser_
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Any truth in the rumour that SF have actually now topped the Ipsos MRBI poll and FG down now to 20% for the Irish Times at 25%

    First time ever.

    Apparently...
    Sinn Féin has surged into first place in the general election race, with a quarter of all likely voters now saying they intend to vote for the party, according to the final Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI opinion poll of the campaign.

    The poll puts Fine Gael back in third place at 20 per cent, behind Fianna Fáil on 23 per cent and Sinn Féin on 25 per cent.

    Might we be in for our own Trump/Brexit moment?


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    #200
    [Deleted User]
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    maccored wrote: »
    yeah - course they did (is that what your meant to say to delusional people?)

    The other phrase is "talking ****" but I prefer scaremongering

    SF have been talking sh1te for years- I can see that it’s not just the higher ranking members that have this gift.


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    #201
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And you believe them?

    Their (SF) last proposal was to tax anyone over 70k.

    Realising that knocked out a few too many prospects, they upped it to 100k. But I'd say anyone near 70k is a target.

    Also want to up CAT to 36% so anyone wanting their family to inherit their home in their death could be looking at this level of tax if they leave a home. Tax against anyone owning their own home.


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    #202
    baldbear
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    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Apparently...



    Might we be in for our own Trump/Brexit moment?

    FF will 100% have the most seats in the next dail. Fact.


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    #203
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Deleted User wrote: »
    SF have been talking sh1te for years- I can see that it’s not just the higher ranking members that have this gift.

    incredibly brilliant post. bravo. Its like a school yard retort


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    #204
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    maccored wrote: »
    Yes - the north is full of people hurting - Im sure you really care about those too. What? You didnt think about them because you havent heard them mentioned in a debate so then you couldnt use their names to think you are scoring cheap points? My my.

    The south of ireland is also a place where people are suffering under our very own government. some have even died. catch a grip and spare me the fake caring.

    SF's behaviour toward the Mc Cabe family was deplorable. But they have handled it in a dignified way. Their request is not to vote SF. I respect their decision, after all, this was a person murdered simply doing their job. It could have been any of us. But yet SF campaigned for the murderers without a shred of respect for the McCabe family.

    They don't like it mentioned now as the truth hurts.

    Nothing to do with cheap points - they supported and campaigned for murderers, why would you expect people to forget or excuse their conduct.


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    #205
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    anewme wrote: »
    SF's behaviour toward the Mc Cabe family was deplorable. But they have handled it in a dignified way. Their request is not to vote SF. I respect their decision, after all, this was a person murdered simply doing their job. It could have been any of us. Hur yet they campaigned for the murderers without a shred of respect for the McCabe family.

    They don't like it mentioned now as the truth hurts.

    Nothing to do with cheap points - they supported and excused murderers, why would you expect people to forget or excuse their conduct.

    dont vote for FF, FG or Labour then


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    #206
    [Deleted User]
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    maccored wrote: »
    incredibly brilliant post. bravo. Its like a school yard retort

    You started the bitching comments- I just took a parachute down to your level so I could relate to you more ;)


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    #207
    anewme
    Registered Users Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    maccored wrote: »
    dont vote for FF, FG or Labour then

    That's my point overall, theres not much of a choice.


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    #208
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    anewme wrote: »
    That's my point overall, theres not much of a choice.

    all their histories involved blood. In fact you might find politics worldwide does


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    #209
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    I don’t like any parties to be honest but god sf economic stuff just makes no sense to me I feel the people who vote for them are going to be hurt more if they get in which I think they will


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    #210
    maccored
    Registered Users Posts: 10,668 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You started the bitching comments- I just took a parachute down to your level so I could relate to you more ;)

    aww ... how thoughtful.

    Anyway - wherever you have a fact based debate about SF and not the IRA, Im all ears.


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    #211
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,211 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    The way Brian Dobson treated Mary Lou in that interview has made my mind up. What a bully he is, his whole demeanour in the interview was aggressive compared to Leo and martins interview. RTE are shameless really, no attempt whatsoever to remain impartial.

    SF could teach Dobbo a thing or two about interrogation techniques!


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