How about get a degree where there are jobs instead of crying about it.

Fccwontletmebe

cloudatlas wrote: »

Oh FFS yourself. He mentioned in his post he couldn't move for family reasons but you won't hear it and you're out to get him. I'm sure this continued bitterness isn't a reflection of your own life.

Well get a car and commute then.

cloudatlas

Fccwontletmebe wrote: »

Well get a car and commute then.

Of course that's super cheap, it sounds like there are other jobs in the surroundings of his small locality :rolleyes:

Fccwontletmebe

cloudatlas wrote: »

Of course that's super cheap, it sounds like there are other jobs in the surroundings of his small locality :rolleyes:

Oh sur, stay on the dole then.

It’s a complete and utter cop out what your saying here.

pjohnson

cloudatlas wrote: »

Of course that's super cheap, it sounds like there are other jobs in the surroundings of his small locality :rolleyes:

Back in his day it was a donkey and cart for transport so no suprise insurance/petrol/tax etc. are unknown concepts.

cloudatlas

Fccwontletmebe wrote: »

Oh sur, stay on the dole then.

It’s a complete and utter cop out what your saying here.

Wow, you discovered that everyone has different commitments (eg. family), economic backgrounds, social situations, capacity for creativity and we aren't all the same, this thread must be a shock for you! Sit yourself down with a blanket and a cup of tea there whilst you recover.

topper75

I can't be the only one who thought of this in the thread:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32czn2

Church on Tuesday

topper75 wrote: »

I can't be the only one who thought of this in the thread:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32czn2

Best thing about this thread.

Fccwontletmebe

cloudatlas wrote: »

Wow, you discovered that everyone has different commitments (eg. family), economic backgrounds, social situations, capacity for creativity and we aren't all the same, this thread must be a shock for you! Sit yourself down with a blanket and a cup of tea there whilst you recover.

No just pointing out that your saying it’s too expensive to move to get a job when clearly it’s not.

Ush1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Strangly enough, society actually needs self important artists just as much as other self important non-artists

If you say so, the world doesn't owe anyone a living.

vriesmays

LirW wrote: »

All of them had artistic ambitions academically and worked in these professions to keep themselves afloat or find their art education.

I knew that.

lozenges

Fccwontletmebe wrote: »

Okay please enlighten me how much you would need? Will we add on another 500 to the 600?

And yes I have lived in Dublin for about three years.

It’s a complete and utter cop out saying it’s too expensive to move.

For a room in Dublin? Easily 800-950 per month. Not necessarily a particularly nice room either.

Can easily understand how that would be unaffordable on a low wage

Assetbacked

Today's whinger, Alice Murphy who is living in Sydney.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irishwoman-in-australia-i-want-to-return-home-but-i-m-frightened-1.4163649

Not a random emigrant but a writer for the Daily Mail. Her instagram is her arse on show every two photos. These articles can't be taken seriously and neither can the people who write them when they are written by those so far up their own holes.

Church on Tuesday

lozenges wrote: »

For a room in Dublin? Easily 800-950 per month. Not necessarily a particularly nice room either.

Can easily understand how that would be unaffordable on a low wage

That's what I would have thought, I did ask that poster a few pages back but got no reply and that would be keeping with the rates one of my mates would have payed in the past.

But hey, who cares about things like basic finances and personal budgets in relation to what job you may have or indeed possibly get; just move to Dublin, be grand. :rolleyes:

nkl12xtw5goz70

Assetbacked wrote: »

Today's whinger, Alice Murphy who is living in Sydney.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irishwoman-in-australia-i-want-to-return-home-but-i-m-frightened-1.4163649

Not a random emigrant but a writer for the Daily Mail. Her instagram is her arse on show every two photos. These articles can't be taken seriously and neither can the people who write them when they are written by those so far up their own holes.

It's strange that a professional writer (not to mention the Irish Times's copy editor) doesn't know the difference between "plaintiff" and "plaintive." She also doesn't seem to know that the original Lehman Brothers established their business in the 1840s and thus weren't around in 2008.

optogirl

banie01 wrote: »

An arts degree and a master's in Literature!
Well done...

The foresight to realise that such esoteric qualifications are of fúck all use in gaining somewhat local employment in a rural part of Co Clare...

Well that doesn't say much for an arts degree is shaping one for actual adulthood!

If you heard a young child saying that their dream job was to be a writer/journalist/editor/copywriter etc but they weren't going to try because they are from a rural part of Co Clare would you feel that they were incredibly prudent in coming to such a conclusion or a bit sad that they felt that way?

nkl12xtw5goz70

optogirl wrote: »

If you heard a young child saying that their dream job was to be a writer/journalist/editor/copywriter etc but they weren't going to try because they are from a rural part of Co Clare would you feel that they were incredibly prudent in coming to such a conclusion or a bit sad that they felt that way?

Many writing and editing type jobs can be done remotely from anywhere, so living in rural Co. Clare shouldn't be a huge obstacle.

My only sadness is that young children who grow up reading and loving books can't pursue a genuine literature degree anymore, because English as a discipline now focuses more on identity politics and ideological activism than on great books. Trinity's description of its English undergraduate course refers to "enabling students to develop a sophisticated critical consciousness and an awareness of critical and cultural theory," which is code for "indoctrination in Marxist twaddle."

I watched a clip of them going on about the play..its a tragicomedy about a few lads getting a bag of cans going on about their dead friend..
It's hardly high art..derivative hipster fare I'd imagine..

optogirl

Deleted User wrote: »

I watched a clip of them going on about the play..its a tragicomedy about a few lads getting a bag of cans going on about their dead friend..
It's hardly high art..derivative hipster fair I'd imagine..

So art is useless and we should all be engineers. Grand.

Tommybojangles

I have an arts degree and a masters in literature, not sure which was a bigger waste of time.
I don't feel entitled to whine about it though, was my own decision, moved to Dublin and got a ****e job with no prospects, currently doing an evening degree in something more useful

nkl12xtw5goz70

Tommybojangles wrote: »

I have an arts degree and a masters in literature, not sure which was a bigger waste of time.
I don't feel entitled to whine about it though, was my own decision, moved to Dublin and got a ****e job with no prospects, currently doing an evening degree in something more useful

Why was it a "waste of time"? Do you feel that you derived anything at all of value from studying literature for 4-5 years?

Tommybojangles

Shane Fit Thermos wrote: »

Why was it a "waste of time"? Do you feel that you derived anything at all of value from studying literature for 4-5 years?

A good group of friends and the ability to write 'strong academic background' on my CV when applying for unrelated jobs

PommieBast

ongarboy wrote: »

Unfortunately, nowadays an undergraduate BA degree is not enough and needs to be backed up by a Masters or post graduate equivalent that specialises in an industry that will give you employment opportunities. Sometimes people have to compromise with their education choices.

In more recent years I have been seriously questioning the value of higher education. I saw a lot of Masters students during my PhD days and one thing that the academia gravy train does not teach is ability to do jobs.

riclad

Stem is part of higher education, engineering, tech, programming ,science,
there,s always a debate does it make sense to spend 4 years getting a degree in english,history, art etc
https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeanders/2015/07/29/liberal-arts-degree-tech/#3bf9361e745d

i think tech companys need arts degree graduates, to think about certain things and policys in a logical manner.
i do,nt think all art,s degree,s are a waste of time ,
but if someone studys a tech subject or science/ chemistry they have a simple path to employment after graduation.

Church on Tuesday

It's never a good sign of a person's character to look down their nose at another person's occupation or interests or degree.

Fccwontletmebe

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It's never a good sign of a person's character to look down their nose at another person's occupation or interests or degree.

To me it just shows their lack of intelligence studying something that it pointless.

Church on Tuesday

Fccwontletmebe wrote: »

To me it just shows their lack of intelligence studying something that it pointless.

You won't get a degree unless you're halfway intelligent.

Either people realise their degree is not for them and drop out and do something else or they do it because they love what they are studying and will try get work in that field - whatever the volume of that work available may be, because, y'know, they will be passionate about it like this guy in London clearly is.

So much rent are you paying in Dublin and do you have a nice room or are you sharing a room? You were telling folk to move there a while back.

Fccwontletmebe

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

You won't get a degree unless you're halfway intelligent.

Either people realise their degree is not for them and drop out and do something else or they do it because they love what they are studying and will try get work in that field - whatever the volume of that work available may be, because, y'know, they will be passionate about it like this guy in London clearly is.

So much rent are you paying in Dublin and do you have a nice room or are you sharing a room? You were telling folk to move there a while back.

I don't live in Dublin, used to but not anymore. I got my expierence there for three years and moved on.

And i rented my own place.

Church on Tuesday

Fccwontletmebe wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin, used to but not anymore. I got my expierence there for three years and moved on.

And i rented my own place.

Right so when was that and what were you paying for your own place?

Ficheall

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

You won't get a degree unless you're halfway intelligent.

The sooner this myth is dispelled, the better. You almost have to go out of your way not to get a degree.

Fccwontletmebe

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Right so when was that and what were you paying for your own place?

None of your business tbh, but people not moving for work really annoys me.

Save the free money and move or get a CU loan to get started