Car Damaged at Work

_Brian

Lundstram wrote: »

I am chasing the employer.

It's a company worth about €10 million, I won't lose sleep by profiting a few hundred euro from them.

In your first Post your extorting extra cash from the other employee.

Bad form.

Captain Flaps

ghost of ireland past wrote: »

absolute waffle

If I claim off my insurance I bring the car for a quotation, I supply that, and the insurer pays the garage. If I claim off my health insurance for a procedure I submit receipts or else the hospital claims directly from the insurer. If I have a vet bill I submit that to my insurer who will either reimburse me if I paid out of pocket, or else they pay the vet directly.

I am at a complete loss as to why you think OP would want or need anything beyond having his car repaired to the condition it was in before the accident. I recently had a bike nicked from work due to negligence on their part, and I'm hoping to get a replacement bike or a contribution towards the same. If they come through I'd imagine they'll either order one for me or else give me cash upon provision of a copy of the receipt but they're not just going to hand me a wedge of cash that I may or may not use towards the bike.

Bikerman2019

Captain Flaps wrote: »

If I claim off my insurance I bring the car for a quotation, I supply that, and the insurer pays the garage. If I claim off my health insurance for a procedure I submit receipts or else the hospital claims directly from the insurer. If I have a vet bill I submit that to my insurer who will either reimburse me if I paid out of pocket, or else they pay the vet directly.

I am at a complete loss as to why you think OP would want or need anything beyond having his car repaired to the condition it was in before the accident. I recently had a bike nicked from work due to negligence on their part, and I'm hoping to get a replacement bike or a contribution towards the same. If they come through I'd imagine they'll either order one for me or else give me cash upon provision of a copy of the receipt but they're not just going to hand me a wedge of cash that I may or may not use towards the bike.

But the OP wants cash and also the ability to pocket some of it.....

Captain Flaps

I know WHY OP wants it.

I just don't think how anyone else thinks that this is a reasonable expectation or why his work is being unreasonable by refusing to do this.

the_syco

Lundstram wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it but it's not his call.

I'm not looking for cash specifically, I've no problem with bank transfer or any paper trail. It's compensation.

Actually, you are. You want money. The company has said that they'll pay the garage to fix your car.

I'm guessing that the company have dealt with this situation before, and have found that paying the garage to get the car fixed is cheaper. Paying cash to the OP would encourage people to have "accidents" to claim cash. When the person doesn't gain financially, such claims don't happen.

raxy

CruelCoin wrote: »

Unless he's a complete mong, the manager would have had "parked at owners risk signs around the place".
He'd better have them now.

A sign like that would not mean anything in this case. Those signs are in relation to other people damaging your car while parked in their carpark. This is damaged caused by a company employee in a company vehicle, a sign would not take away their liability.

Lundstram

To clear a few things up for the people not arsed reading beyond the OP. I am in no way “chasing” the employee. It’s the company!

There a no signs up.

To end this story, he paid up today via cheque which leaves a paper-trail for us both and will be accounted for appropriately on both sides as we both have the quotes.

So to the people calling it “fraud”, educate yourselves.

Thanks to the helpful posters.

holyhead

Lundstram wrote: »

To clear a few things up for the people not arsed reading beyond the OP. I am in no way “chasing” the employee. It’s the company!

There a no signs up.

To end this story, he paid up today via cheque which leaves a paper-trail for us both and will be accounted for appropriately on both sides as we both have the quotes.

So to the people calling it “fraud”, educate yourselves.

Thanks to the helpful posters.

That people called it 'fraud' is based on how you put your own story across.

Purple Mountain

holyhead wrote: »

That people called it 'fraud' is based on how you put your own story across.

Bingo!

Captain Flaps

Lundstram wrote: »

So to the people calling it “fraud”, educate yourselves.

Thanks to the helpful posters.

You gave them a phoney estimate, and you will now repair the car cheaper and pocket the change.

You have defrauded your employer.

Jim2007

Lundstram wrote: »

To clear a few things up for the people not arsed reading beyond the OP. I am in no way “chasing” the employee. It’s the company!

There a no signs up.

To end this story, he paid up today via cheque which leaves a paper-trail for us both and will be accounted for appropriately on both sides as we both have the quotes.

So to the people calling it “fraud”, educate yourselves.

Thanks to the helpful posters.

Our conclusion are based on the information you provided. You need to improve your communication skills.

_Brian

Captain Flaps wrote: »

You gave them a phoney estimate, and you will now repair the car cheaper and pocket the change.

You have defrauded your employer.

Yea, that sort of person doesn’t see it as fraud because it’s coming from a company. Very same people are happy to defraud social welfare because it’s not seen as stealing to them.

Nasty sorts, best avoided at all costs.

scamalert

_Brian wrote: »

Yea, that sort of person doesn’t see it as fraud because it’s coming from a company. Very same people are happy to defraud social welfare because it’s not seen as stealing to them.

Nasty sorts, best avoided at all costs.

If this happened almost 4 months ago, and he had to chase after it, pocketing what 200e for messed up car is fraud maybe get outside a bit, as it seems its OPs time to get car to garage which will easily be days work to get sanded paint picked etc, granted fitting new light aint rocket science respray and proper blend isnt done for pennies either, theres bigger clowns where if it was car accident with same damage the amount would have 0 attached to it easily, so to think hes being cheeky shows some people are dumb. as amount sounded fare but dragging that sort of stuff for months tells different story. All in seems management didnt give 0 care, and prob as he said expected that he will fix it himself.

Captain Flaps

The irony of your username

Just to be clear, A company can pay you based off either a quote, or receipt of work done.
You can also be paid directly, or have the company pay the garage directly.

At the end of the day, your car was damaged on site, by an employee. ( Not sure why your car was parked in a works area)

Legally speaking, your employer is under no obligation to pay you directly, or pay the garage, it is up to the company policy on repairs or re-imbursment.

I would be happy myself that the company are paying for, what amounts to a clumsy accident without you needing to go through insurance.

Your attitude of trying to make a few pounds is exactly why I and other senior, professional managers, will usually just say to any employee have the company you want the work done in send me the quote directly and I will sort.

You do know they also need to know if the company you are using is VAT registered, insured etc?