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How to access PayPal GBP balance?

  • 06-02-2020 8:41pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭


    I have a GBP balance in PayPal which is not accessible without being converted to EUR using PayPal's uncompetitive exchange rate.

    I have added my Revolut account, which can receive GBP payments, but PayPal is still converting it to EUR.

    I have spoken to PayPal and they suggested opening another PayPal account in the UK and make a payment to it using the GBP balance; I've done that but there is a fee charged for GBP transfers!

    Is there any way of accessing a GBP PayPal balance without converting it to EUR other than making purchases such as eBay (Amazon don't accept PayPal) ?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Carnmore wrote: »
    I have a GBP balance in PayPal which is not accessible without being converted to EUR using PayPal's uncompetitive exchange rate.

    I have added my Revolut account, which can receive GBP payments, but PayPal is still converting it to EUR.

    I have spoken to PayPal and they suggested opening another PayPal account in the UK and make a payment to it using the GBP balance; I've done that but there is a fee charged for GBP transfers!

    Is there any way of accessing a GBP PayPal balance without converting it to EUR other than making purchases such as eBay (Amazon don't accept PayPal) ?

    Thanks in advance.

    Set up GBP account on your revolut, link that to your PayPal (as a GBP account) and away ya go

    Their suggestion of transferring to an other PayPal in your own name is od as they closed an account on me for transferring myself money a few weeks ago


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    Set up GBP account on your revolut, link that to your PayPal (as a GBP account) and away ya go

    I have a GBP account in Revolut and entered the IBAN but it's the same IBAN for the EUR account. When attempting a transfer PayPal converted the GBP balance in to EUR using their FX rate and there is no way to prevent this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Carnmore wrote: »
    I have a GBP account in Revolut and entered the IBAN but it's the same IBAN for the EUR account. When attempting a transfer PayPal converted the GBP balance in to EUR using their FX rate and there is no way to prevent this.

    your GBP aaccount on revolut should have a "local" details of a sort code and account number


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    your GBP aaccount on revolut should have a "local" details of a sort code and account number

    Yes but an Ireland based PayPal account will only allow an IBAN to be entered rather than a UK sort code and account number


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Carnmore wrote: »
    Yes but an Ireland based PayPal account will only allow an IBAN to be entered rather than a UK sort code and account number

    hmm do you have paypal linked to your google pay?

    can you top up your Revolut GBP account via google pay w/paypal


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  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    I use iOS and my PayPal account is linked to Revolut


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    ah ok,

    can you add paypal as a payment method on your Apple Pay and then
    top up your revolut GBP account with Apple Pay


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    ah ok,

    can you add paypal as a payment method on your Apple Pay and then
    top up your revolut GBP account with Apple Pay

    Ok I've added PayPal as a payment method in my Apple ID and made it the default payment method for the purpose of topping up my Revolut GBP account. However, when I go to "Add Money" to my Revolut account, change the funding source to Apple Pay, the final confirmation stage is only showing Revolut Visa or my EUR bank account as options so in effect my Revolut GBP account would be topped up from my Revolut card!

    Any other thoughts?

    Thank you for your help with this!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    ok i'm stumped now,

    you may just have to take the hit on their ****e rates unless you know someone in the UK that you can trust to send it to and they send it back on revolut or something


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Set up GBP account on your revolut, link that to your PayPal (as a GBP account) and away ya go

    You can't transfer funds out of a Paypal in any currency other than the base currency.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Johnny Sausage


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    You can't transfer funds out of a Paypal in any currency other than the base currency.

    yeah we have clarified that thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    You can't transfer funds out of a Paypal in any currency other than the base currency.

    To clarify, the current balance is in GBP made up of eBay payments but when I attempt to transfer the balance it is converted to EUR at PayPal’s punitive exchange rate


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Carnmore wrote: »
    To clarify, the current balance is in GBP made up of eBay payments but when I attempt to transfer the balance it is converted to EUR at PayPal’s punitive exchange rate

    And I said base currency, not the currency the balance is expressed in. I expect your base currency is Euro based on what you have posted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    And I said base currency, not the currency the balance is expressed in. I expect your base currency is Euro based on what you have posted.

    As I said, to clarify


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    You can't transfer funds out of a Paypal in any currency other than the base currency.

    Yes,its basically a scam on Paypals behalf.

    I've a good bit of GBP in my account but I cant get it out without converting to euro ,at a terrible rate .

    I tried adding my Ulster Bank NI account (GBP) ,its not accepted.
    Transferwise wont work either or Revolut.

    You could setup a UK Paypal account in GBP and transfer the money to yourself .
    This is kind of a grey area and Paypal could freeze the UK account if the amount transferred is above a certain amount,they may look for proof of UK address which could be awkward.

    I think there are also companies out there that allow you to transfer the GBP to them via Paypal and they will convert it back to Euro for you at a good rate but I'm not entirely sure which ones are the best.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    Zardoz wrote: »
    You could setup a UK Paypal account in GBP and transfer the money to yourself .
    This is kind of a grey area and Paypal could freeze the UK account if the amount transferred is above a certain amount,they may look for proof of UK address which could be awkward.
    .

    I’ve done that, as advised by PayPal customer service(!)
    , and although the balance remains in GBP they charge a transfer fee! I don’t know how they get away with this


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Yes,its basically a scam on Paypals behalf.

    It most certainly is not a scam, it is stated there in plain sight, if people could not be bothered to read the contracts they sign up to, then that is their problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Carnmore wrote: »
    I’ve done that, as advised by PayPal customer service(!)
    , and although the balance remains in GBP they charge a transfer fee! I don’t know how they get away with this

    They charge a fee as its a cross border transfer .
    I think its ~0.5%
    You will lose ~3.5% if you let Paypal transfer from GBP to Euro .

    https://www.paypal.com/uk/webapps/mpp/cross-border-and-conversion-fees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Just to update on this I managed to get my GBP funds out of Paypal using Xoom, a Paypal company.
    It allows you to send money to a bank account from your Paypal balance .
    It charges ~0.65% to transfer the money.
    Paypal would only let me withdraw in Euros and wanted to convert at a cost of ~4%.
    Xoom allowed me to send the GBP intact to a UK bank account .


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    Paypal recently decided to debit my Revolut account rather than card despite my card being the 'preferred' funding source.

    This resulted in the eBay GBP purchase being converted to EUR using their punitive exchange rates. PayPal repeatedly fobbed me off but I persisted and eventually got the differential between their rate and Revolut's back.

    I don't know why this company hasn't been closed down by now.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Carnmore wrote: »
    I don't know why this company hasn't been closed down by now.

    Probably because Ireland is a very small part of PayPal's world....

    Ireland is unusual in that you are allowed to buy in Sterling. On Ebay, with my Swiss account I can only buy in Swiss Francs, I can see the prices in the vendor's currency, but that actual transaction happens in Swiss Frances.

    The only exception is if I happen to have a Sterling cash balance, in which case it offers to first apply the Sterling cash and then the rest is taken in Francs.

    I don't know, but I would not be surprised if it is the same for most people outside the "Irish Bubble".

    Actually from the end of this year we have been told that we will be no longer able to buy on Amazon.co.uk because they have decided not to support third country sales. We need to place the order via Amazon.de, .fr, .it instead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Carnmore


    I’ve opened a UK PayPal account to be used for any GBP purchases in future


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Carnmore wrote: »
    I’ve opened a UK PayPal account to be used for any GBP purchases in future

    We’ll have to wait and see how all of that plays out. If there is a no deal BREXIT I expect China & Russia will force a full functioning trade border between the UK and the EU at the WTO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I'm looking for a way to take a sterling balance out of a paypal account without converting it to euro.

    Paypal are looking for me to convert it to euro, then back to sterling. That'll end up costing me £150.

    Is there a way of taking the money out without getting screwed by paypal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Starlord_01


    Revolut?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭Pacifico


    Similar thread here recently: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058052099

    I think the general consensus was it's not easy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Revolut?

    Same thing, paypal want to convert it to euro, before revolut will convert it back into sterling. Revolut offers a slightly better rate than my UK bank account though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I'm having a similar issue with PayPal. I've set up a paypal account using my UK address and phone number. Now I'm having issues withdrawing my sterling balance to my sterling account in the UK.
    Paypal are trying to tell me my account isn't UK based. And they have redirected me to their automatic help system, which is totally useless.

    If I set up another account next time I'm in the UK, will paypal charge me to transfer between my two paypal accounts with my UK address?
    I won't be back in the UK for another couple of months, and I'd rather not wait that long.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Effects wrote: »
    I'm having a similar issue with PayPal. I've set up a paypal account using my UK address and phone number. Now I'm having issues withdrawing my sterling balance to my sterling account in the UK.
    Paypal are trying to tell me my account isn't UK based. And they have redirected me to their automatic help system, which is totally useless.

    If I set up another account next time I'm in the UK, will paypal charge me to transfer between my two paypal accounts with my UK address?
    I won't be back in the UK for another couple of months, and I'd rather not wait that long.

    If you are not habitually resident in the UK, then they are most likely correct, it is an MLA issue and you can expect they will apply it fully.

    Repeating the exercise and then trying to move money out of an account that is already flagged will take you to the next level in MLA... with the possibility that they will freeze it.

    You need to contact them directly and get it sorted out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Paypal are currently trying to say it's an issue with my bank account, and that it's a euro account, which is ridiculous.


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