Paradox of intolerance.

biko

Edgware wrote: »

Could you go through that again. You lost me at "Some people"

If a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant.

Karl Popper

tabby aspreme

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Would there be any tolerance of people, being intolerant due to their religious beliefs

Pity that he missed that one before he got the heave-ho.

I guess that one would be for "the hypocrisy of tolerance" thread he had in the pipeline :rolleyes:

Edgware

jackboy wrote: »

Who will decide which citizens should be executed?

Someone above your pay grade.
The fact that you even ask that question means your name is added to the list

Clarence Boddiker

Sk8er is either extremely naive to think its acceptable to advocate murder online, or he feels he is protected somehow, or likely he's straight up fedposting.

Hamsterchops

To paraphrase post #1

If you indulge in dystopian ideologies then you should decist from complaining when you are deemed political & social outcasts. It is in the best interest of the inhabited world to suppress and eradicate you because you are a threat to democracy and even human life. It is not extreme to remove the insufferably intolerant from society, whether through in in incarceration or other more intrusive methods.

Pointing out this paradox is a common defense of the intolerant. Certain groups claim the moral high ground by using this transparent logic, certainly aware that if status quo was on their side they would not hesitate to execute or intern the unconformist.

Tolerance is best measured by torque, A neo liberal amalgamate with an equal adhesive property, defending itself is not the same as the intolerant using a hammer to crack the proverbial nut.

There is nothing new to regurgitate here. If you impose your views on others by psycho force you will also meet the same anti magnetic resistance multiplied one hundred times. And so, it has always been thus, since Adam was in short trousers.

biko

Maybe it is what Ayaan Hirsi Ali says: “Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.”

Lefty Bicek

biko wrote: »

If a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant.

Karl Popper

So shoot the 'tolerant without limit' then.

Prevention is better than cure, no ?

splinter65

sk8erboii wrote: »

Eliminate the intolerant. That’s its in one sentence.

You’re intolerant of the intolerant. So you need to be eliminated.

Sober Crappy Chemis

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Looks like your wish has come true.

You have been both eliminated and imprisoned.

🎵🎵🎵 He was a skaterboi, boards said see ya later boi ......🎵🎵🎵

biko

Lefty Bicek wrote: »

So shoot the 'tolerant without limit' then.

Such an apt username Bicek


On topic, of course we cannot go around killing people, that serves as little purpose now as it did under Pol Pot.

Lefty Bicek

biko wrote: »

Such an apt username Bicek


On topic, of course we cannot go around killing people, that serves as little purpose now as it did under Pol Pot.

Thank you !

LB is a character of Nelson Algren, my favourite American writer by a long margin.

On topic - I am more of a 'I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend...' etc

The extension of the principle of 'intolerance towards the (alleged) intolerant' into, eg, deplatforming people who disagree with us, is simply cowardice.

If it comes to a physical battle, Milo is going to lose against most.

jimgoose

Naggin Merchant wrote: »

So the op is going to round up extremist muslims?

In terms of tolerances, a lot of folk will round round up or down to the nearest thou. But that's no good in this shop, biyeen - you have to be bang-on!

Tony EH

biko wrote: »

If a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant.

Karl Popper

What Karl Popper and the OP have confused is that "tolerance" is not "acceptance".

Views can be "tolerated", while not being accepted or agreed with and actions on those views can be met with opposition in its many forms.

Tolerance isn't blind.

STB.

Thread should be renamed "the shíte that goes around in my head"

One eyed Jack

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Looks like your wish has come true.

You have been both eliminated and imprisoned.

There’s a certain irony in the OP getting ‘cancelled’ after starting a thread about a philosophical tolerance paradox