ANYONE ELSE VOTE FOR SINN FEIN FOR FIRST TIME TODAY

maccored

Blaze420 wrote: »

You are spot on because like anybody with a blinker of sense knows, SF is a party for the wasters by the wasters. There’s many SW recipients simply foaming at the mouth for SF to get in so they get further cushioned from ever contributing anything to the state - easier to whinge about the gubbermint this and that when you don’t have to work a wet hour for the cash you get

since you havent a ****ing clue, why are you posting bull****?

Blaze420

maccored wrote: »

since you havent a ****ing clue, why are you posting bull****?

Haven’t a clue about what? And point out the “bull****” as you call it or **** off

theballz

I voted FG 1st, 2nd and Greens 3rd.

This was the first year that I NEVER gave SF a vote. They are out of their depth.

No thanks. Shame on you who did.

James Brown

Blaze420 wrote: »

You are spot on because like anybody with a blinker of sense knows, SF is a party for the wasters by the wasters. There’s many SW recipients simply foaming at the mouth for SF to get in so they get further cushioned from ever contributing anything to the state - easier to whinge about the gubbermint this and that when you don’t have to work a wet hour for the cash you get

Show your government some respect
Didn't Margo cash get her gaff under FG?

mrcheez

I voted for no one


Seen her posters around and felt bad for her

Plumbthedepths

Blaze420 wrote: »

Haven’t a clue about what? And point out the “bull****” as you call it or **** off

What parties are responsible for the present social welfare system?

James Brown

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What parties are responsible for the present social welfare system?

He needs to spark up a doobie.

Galwayguy35

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What parties are responsible for the present social welfare system?

We know it's FG and FF but SF would also reward the dole lifers.

Plumbthedepths

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

We know it's FG and FF but SF would also reward the dole lifers.

You know, that's great because all on here moaning about what SF will and won't do ignore the fact that FF and FG are responsible for the social welfare system we have with a little input by Labour.
If SF ever get into power you have the right to whinge if they increase the social welfare rate, until that time you have no idea what they will do other than guesswork.
Btw manifestos go out the window with coalitions and the reality of state finances.

antimatterx

mrcheez wrote: »

I voted for no one


Seen her posters around and felt bad for her

Catherine deserves a seat!

dxhound2005

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You know, that's great because all on here moaning about what SF will and won't do ignore the fact that FF and FG are responsible for the social welfare system we have with a little input by Labour.
If SF ever get into power you have the right to whinge if they increase the social welfare rate, until that time you have no idea what they will do other than guesswork.
Btw manifestos go out the window with coalitions and the reality of state finances.

Are Sinn Fein going to abandon their manifesto just to get into power?

McMurphy

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

You are aware why that billing entity is obsolete don't you ?

I am. It would seem you however are not.


You remember the govt handpicking a squad of experts who would tell them what the best way forward was with the regime, right?

The government has handpicked these 'water experts' to tell us what to do with Irish Water

Well it seems they sat down over a mug of char and decided that.

Expert Commission: Taxation should cover normal use of water

The report says that the funding of water services for normal domestic and personal use should be out of general taxation with the volume of water a person should be allowed to use independently assessed through “an open and transparent process”.

Yep, that's correct, how it was already being done.

No use FG (as always) trying to blame someone else, or claim it was like that when they got there.

Not this time Fr, no point trying to blame FF, SF, Paul Murphy or anyone else.

The country was on its knees, and FG decided to put water meters in the ground that were to be not capped, then they were, charges wouldn't work without PPS numbers, and then that would, conservation grants, non payers reduced to trickles, and blah de blahdy blah.

Irish water was FGs fcuk up. Own it.

BohsCeltic

All the anti SF stuff is pitiful, same rhetoric everytime. Boring.

Plumbthedepths

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Are Sinn Fein going to abandon their manifesto just to get into power?

You'll have to ask them, I don't speak for them.
No manifesto survives coalition. Ask Pat Rabitte.

Fred Cryton

A vote for SF is a vote for the grey tracksuit brigade.

They would be delighted with a SF government.

Darc19

backslapper wrote: »

I was in Limerick Hospital this week,
I don't have the words to describe what I seen there, it will stay with me for a long time.
That was it for me.
I got up early this morning & on way to work,
I voted for Sinn Fein.

Be careful what you wish for

Early last month over 400 people were on trolleys in NI hospitals waiting for a bed.

That's in a population 2/3rds less than the South!

McMurphy

Darc19 wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for

Early last month over 400 people were on trolleys in NI hospitals waiting for a bed.

That's in a population 2/3rds less than the South!

I didn't realise that, where did you see this?

touts

Nope. Never have never will. Even if they somehow come to power and so what all socialists do to keep power (set up a single party state and ban all opposition at the point of a gun) I still won't vote for them. I'll just spoil my vote.

Fred Cryton

The problem with SF is they represent the gurrier in society. The vigilante. No respect for law and order. No respect for truth, only propaganda. And an instinctive selfishness - someone else should pay for everything.

Personally, they represent everything i don't like about Irish society and everyone i don't like in Irish society.

Better Than Christ

BohsCeltic wrote: »

All the anti SF stuff is pitiful, same rhetoric everytime. Boring.

Half expecting some of the clowns to go full 'Paisley 1995' and start calling them 'Sinn Féin IRA'.

The Rape of Lucretia

BohsCeltic wrote: »

All the anti SF stuff is pitiful, same rhetoric everytime. Boring.

Its valid stuff every time though, so bears the repetition.

rob316

Fred Cryton wrote: »

The problem with SF is they represent the gurrier in society. The vigilante. No respect for law and order. No respect for truth, only propaganda. And an instinctive selfishness - someone else should pay for everything.

Personally, they represent everything i don't like about Irish society and everyone i don't like in Irish society.

That's changing given that element probably don't even vote and SF popularity is still rising. Populist parties have made huge surges across the western world.

touts

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Half expecting some of the clowns to go full 'Paisley 1995' and start calling them 'Sinn Féin IRA'.

Well as the murder of Paul Quinn shows you can take the party out of the IRA but you can't take the IRA out of the party.

banie01

McMurphy wrote: »

I didn't realise that, where did you see this?

It's all over NI and UK news outlets.

Even if SF do get into Government, all parties have signed up to implement Slainte Care.

The roadmap to a single tier health system is laid out and agreed, implementation of it is already delayed but barring a magical money and infrastructure tree there's nothing that a change of Government to even some Uber Communist party can swing without something actually revolutionary.

Markcheese

Fred Cryton wrote: »

The problem with SF is they represent the gurrier in society. The vigilante. No respect for law and order. No respect for truth, only propaganda. And an instinctive selfishness - someone else should pay for everything.

Personally, they represent everything i don't like about Irish society and everyone i don't like in Irish society.

I kinda disagree , they were very fond of " rough justice " antisocial behaviour - the wrong type of antisocial behaviour anyway - was seriously frowned upon be the head echilons ....
These days I'm not so sure is that their style ... I still ain't voting for them .. but more because it'll take them a couple of goes to work out how to" do" government, and i think they'll have the place wrecked before 1 term ..

Fred Cryton

rob316 wrote: »

That's changing given that element probably don't even vote and SF popularity is still rising. Populist parties have made huge surges across the western world.

That element are the most passionate SF supporters and voting in the highest numbers.

Fred Cryton

Markcheese wrote: »

I kinda disagree , they were very fond of " rough justice " antisocial behaviour - the wrong type of antisocial behaviour anyway - was seriously frowned upon be the head echilons ....
These days I'm not so sure is that their style ... I still ain't voting for them .. but more because it'll take them a couple of goes to work out how to" do" government, and i think they'll have the place wrecked before 1 term ..

I didn't say it was the SF parties style, that's a seperate issue. It's the character of the people voting for them.

lawred2

touts wrote: »

Nope. Never have never will. Even if they somehow come to power and so what all socialists do to keep power (set up a single party state and ban all opposition at the point of a gun) I still won't vote for them. I'll ju st spoil my vote.

SF aren't socialists. They are populist.

Iscreamkone

Didn’t vote for SF today
I don’t like their policies

McMurphy

touts wrote: »

Well as the murder of Paul Quinn shows you can take the party out of the IRA but you can't take the IRA out of the party.

Dry your eyes touts.

The IRA card doesn't looked like it worked this time.

This stunt of waving corpses about has to stop, all sides in the north suffered losses - that's the unfortunate side affect of a conflict.

The shinners were the most popular party across all the age groups under 55. The past is irrelevant to the younger generation caught up in FGs manufactured housing shortage and rental crises.

Nine years was long enough. Time for someone else to have a go.