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Who will be the next FG leader?

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  • #32
    jamesbere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    I'll be the leader, shur I might aswell give it a go


  • #33
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Varadkar has done well, don't know why he's getting a hard time here. Did well in the debates. But he should be more like his Young FG days.

    People are angry at FG due to an ECB decision to print money, which is ultimately what is responsible for the soaring house prices in Dublin. And if they want someone local to be angry at, start with DCC and their ridiculous height limits and planning laws. In fact Varadkar should have used the airtime to really pummel the local councils for their failure at planning, but he didn't.


  • #34
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Varadkar has done well, don't know why he's getting a hard time here. Did well in the debates. But he should be more like his Young FG days.

    People are angry at FG due to an ECB decision to print money, which is ultimately what is responsible for the soaring house prices in Dublin. And if they want someone local to be angry at, start with DCC and their ridiculous height limits and planning laws. In fact Varadkar should have used the airtime to really pummel the local councils for their failure at planning, but he didn't.

    What utter nonsense. You registered today to spout that?


  • #35
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    What utter nonsense. You registered today to spout that?

    Anything constructive to say or just name calling?


  • #36
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Anything constructive to say or just name calling?

    He didn't call any names . He did ask a question though ....


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  • #37
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Anything constructive to say or just name calling?
    Name calling, where?


  • #38
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Bullocks wrote: »
    He didn't call any names . He did ask a question though ....

    The question being did i register today, yes. Not very relevant to the topic though. Not a very bright question.


  • #39
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    The question being did i register today, yes. Not very relevant to the topic though. Not a very bright question.

    He didn't ask when you registered , it was did you register to spout about Varadakar having done well .


  • #40
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    The question being did i register today, yes. Not very relevant to the topic though. Not a very bright question.

    How bright is it to accuse someone of name calling when the claim is obviously false?


  • #41
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Ok Shinners, toddle along. That cheap house you've been looking for is coming for you any day now.


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  • #42
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Ok Shinners, toddle along. That cheap house you've been looking for is coming for you any day now.

    Salty. lol.


  • #43
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Ok Shinners, toddle along. That cheap house you've been looking for is coming for you any day now.
    The "Shinner " was very close to the bottom of my ballot paper .You're assumption that I'm a shinner ,PTD is a name caller and Varadakar did well are all completely wrong


  • #44
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Salty. lol.


    You'll be able to move out from under the Mammy any day now :-)


  • #45
    backslapper
    Registered Users Posts: 21 ✭backslapper


    Too Much Baggage with Coveney with his family (Dad & Ansbacher etc.) to be leader, I'll have a punt on PP but not on him.


  • #46
    Stewball
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    You'll be able to move out from under the Mammy any day now :-)

    Let it all out Fred before the exit poll is revealed.

    All that anger and stress build up wouldn't be good for you!


  • #47
    no.8
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭no.8


    dxhound2005 wrote:
    I suppose it just shows that there is nobody of the calibre of Bertie or Charlie who could replace him. He really has the most dismal record in elections.


    Oh what wonderfully transparent and righteous leaders they were. Shame we (a nation) suffer from a worrying degree of short term memory issues


  • #48
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    well their voters are deserting them, because they got a yes man sock puppet!

    I don't think that's why voters are deserting them. Hardliners tend not to do well in Irish politics.


  • #49
    AllForIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,475 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    For all Varadkar's stiff demeanor he's way better in interviews than Coveney. I'm not saying Coveney is incompetent but he comes across as a bit weak and slow. Unfortunately perceptions matter when it comes to leaders.


  • #50
    Fred Cryton
    Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Fred Cryton


    Bullocks wrote: »
    The "Shinner " was very close to the bottom of my ballot paper .You're assumption that I'm a shinner ,PTD is a name caller and Varadakar did well are all completely wrong

    Don't really care who or what you are, you're not that important believe it or not. Varadkar did very well. Deal with it. Young people are just stupidly laying blame for the housing crisis on the national government when in fact it's the lefty led DCC that are to blame. Christy "one of our own" and co. DCC are bringing ABP to court over Spencer Place apartments. DCC want fewer apartments built there than ABP allowed. There's your housing crisis in a nutshell.


  • #51
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,089 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Varadkar has had a bad campaign, but I don't think it would have been much better under Coveney who is safe but uncharismatic (like a young Enda Kenny). People are unhappy about the housing and health issues and want a change. FF have barely capitalised on this which suggest MM is not exactly the messiah we're looking for but he'll get the job by default because he's not Leo.

    If Varadkar can cling onto the FG job after defeat I wouldn't rule out him leading a comeback. FF and Martin are uninspiring, and whatever coalition they cobble together may not last long. Leo would possibly be better suited to being leader of the opposition, making snappy soundbites and blurting out his opinions without having to actually make policies that work.


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  • #52
    Bullocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    Don't really care who or what you are, you're not that important believe it or not. Varadkar did very well. Deal with it. Young people are just stupidly laying blame for the housing crisis on the national government when in fact it's the lefty led DCC that are to blame. Christy "one of our own" and co. DCC are bringing ABP to court over Spencer Place apartments. DCC want fewer apartments built there than ABP allowed. There's your housing crisis in a nutshell.
    I'm just as very important or not important at all as you are , that's what I believe .
    I don't have a housing crisis , cleared the mortgage 2 years ago .


  • #53
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,442 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    loyatemu wrote: »
    Varadkar has had a bad campaign, but I don't think it would have been much better under Coveney who is safe but uncharismatic (like a young Enda Kenny). People are unhappy about the housing and health issues and want a change. FF have barely capitalised on this which suggest MM is not exactly the messiah we're looking for but he'll get the job by default because he's not Leo.

    The HSE is MMs legacy. So it's hard to see how he'll be a catalyst for change for the better.


  • #54
    Green Peter
    Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Ringer


  • #55
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fred Cryton wrote: »
    You'll be able to move out from under the Mammy any day now :-)

    Just a question Fred is arrogance a prerequisite to allow one become a supporter of FG?


  • #56
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,089 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    lawred2 wrote: »
    The HSE is MMs legacy. So it's hard to see how he'll be a catalyst for change for the better.

    Health is a black hole, and has been for decades. It would be harsh to judge any minister on their record in that dept as not one of them has ever managed to get on top of it. The HSE has been a disaster but it wasn't created on a whim, the old Health Board system was also terrible.


  • #57
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,754 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Green Peter wrote: »
    Ringer

    Certainly kill all those accusations of an FG anti-rural bias:eek:


  • #58
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Coveney should of got leader. Leo got it because he was gay and Ireland wanted to be woke.


  • #59
    Green Peter
    Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Green Peter


    Loafing Oaf wrote:
    Certainly kill all those accusations of an FG anti-rural bias


    Anyone who can swing a motorway between Westport and Castlebar and make Pee Flynn and Enda look like they did nothing for mayo deserves it.


  • #60
    WhiteMan32
    Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭WhiteMan32


    Whilst watching the coverage of the General Election results on RTE, I noticed that one of the panelists was John Bowman - former host of the Monday evening political programme Questions And Answers. The programme ran until 2009, before being replaced by The Frontline (hosted by Pat Kenny) followed by Claire Byrne Live.

    Why am I posting the above on this thread? Because I have just discovered that the current FG leader was a member of the Q&A audience 7 years before he was elected as a TD - see here


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  • #61
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,153 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    WhiteMan32 wrote:
    Why am I posting the above on this thread? Because I have just discovered that the current FG leader was a member of the Q&A audience 7 years before he was elected as a TD -


    The Q&A audience is usually full of party members from all the parties. My father in law is a member of FG. He was invited to attend several times. Most current affairs programmes will be packed with party members.


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