GE Exit Poll 10 pm

threeball

is_that_so wrote: »

He didn't say No, that's all.

That's enough. If Hitler was reincarnated and FF had to talk to him to get in to government they would. It's the only thing that matters to them.

Fann Linn

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Not saying no is some turnaround from what he was saying last week in fairness.

All of a sudden those victims who MM cried crocodile tears over last Thursday night are a distant memory.

FrancieBrady

threeball wrote: »

That's enough. If Hitler was reincarnated and FF had to talk to him to get in to government they would. It's the only thing that matters to them.

Dara Callery now rowing back on the Never Never Never stchick.

I always said they would, so no surprise. But FF had better hope there is some time between now and the next election because anything they would say would be laughed at.
Sleeveen politics is alive and well in FF.

is_that_so

threeball wrote: »

That's enough. If Hitler was reincarnated and FF had to talk to him to get in to government they would. It's the only thing that matters to them.

No, it would have to go to an Ard Fheis of sorts and it might well be rejected.

McMurphy

threeball wrote: »

That's enough. If Hitler was reincarnated and FF had to talk to him to get in to government they would. It's the only thing that matters to them.

If you listened to their biggest cheerleader (Eoghan Harris) on with Ivan on Thurs evening, he might as well be!

jester77

Deleted User wrote: »

A great day for our country.

Do you really believe that?

I don't think having FF return to power with either FG or SF is a great day. There are no other realistic options given the results.

FrancieBrady

Fann Linn wrote: »

All of a sudden those victims who MM cried crocodile tears over last Thursday night are a distant memory.

Mairia Cahill, The Quinn family etc etc all being given two fingers. Power is all that matters to Michael. I have been saying it since the campaign started.

threeball

McMurphy wrote: »

If you listened to their biggest cheerleader (Eoghan Harris) on with Ivan on Thurs evening, he might as well be!

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

gmisk

rob316 wrote: »

FF are a party that governs, he will do anything to get into power. Does he want on his CV to be the only FF party leader that wasn't taoiseach?

It was absolutely foolish to say no way to doing business with any party before the election but he's a poor politician anyway who has lived off the smoking ban.

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

McMurphy

threeball wrote: »

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

Yeah and poor Eoghan was so blind with his hatred and vitriol to see it at the time.

Talk about s hatchet job that backfired.

McMurphy

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

James Reilly didn't get his ministerial role until 2011.

is_that_so

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

Reilly just brought chaos and ego with him. He did try to drive the primary care centres, a good thing, but was overtly influential in the order of them coming on-stream.

johnmcdnl

FrancieBrady wrote: »

FG need to realise they are being led by somebody who had to wait until the 5th count to be elected and whose party (while he is leader) have never won the popular vote.

He was 300 votes short of the quota and it took a bunch of rounds until the candidates with 1-2% we're eliminated so I'd not buy too much into that. I doubt anyone was expecting a bunch of transfers from Peter Casey to FG for example.

Not winning the popular vote is a bigger issue

Cork Boy 53

Fann Linn wrote: »

All of a sudden those victims who MM cried crocodile tears over last Thursday night are a distant memory.

And this surprises you? As has been stated previously MM doesn`t want to go down in history as the first FF leader never to be Taoiseach and this must surely be his last chance to avoid that happening.

is_that_so

threeball wrote: »

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

I think people stopped listening to Eoghan Harris about 1986, but he's still good crank value now.

poppers

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

The ban on smoking in the workplace, which included pubs was brought in by Martin in 2004 if memory serves me correctly.

FrancieBrady

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

He will have to deal with the 'shadowy figures' in his own party first according to Eamonn O'Cuiv last night.

'It is not one man's decision who we talk too, but the party's', was more or less what he said, echoed later by Pat The Cope in Donegal.

is_that_so

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

Rank and file will decide what he does in this case.

is_that_so

is_that_so wrote: »

I think people stopped listening to Eoghan Harris about 1986, but he's still good crank value now.

Bertie certainly didn't stop listening to him by 86

LMC7

MM is chomping at the bit for power,he'd go into coalition with the dogs on the street now for chance to be Taoiseach.
After all the ****e throwing he did with Sinn Fein/IRA...

Surprised enough with Kevin O'Keeffe losing out in Cork East,he lost to a polished 22 year old candidate that looks like he just made his confirmation.

Don't think he was too popular seemingly.

Fr_Dougal

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

LeinsterDub

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

He could very easily talk to the other side of the same coin instead

L1011

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Apparently in some constituencies without SF candidates contesting that seat people wrote SINN FEIN across the ballet paper thus spoiling their votes.

Also some people have said they were voting 'MARY LOU' rather than SF.

There was only one constituency they didn't run in

CIARAN_BOYLE

L1011 wrote: »

There was only one constituency they didn't run in

Im curious now. Which constituency was that.

Injuryprone

How likely is it that Mary Lou becomes taoiseach? If the small left wing parties row in behind her, she'll probably have more votes than Micheál for taoiseach.

Although I don't think there's any chance FF/FG would entertain being a junior partner, and I don't think SF would go for being a junior party either if Mary Lou get the most votes for taoiseach.

So I think it'll either be a FF/FG/GP coalition or a revote. Both options would be good for SF, and I think they're smart enough to realise that.

johnmcdnl

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

Or they'll claim they are being hampered by FF and try to use that to rile up more support because they tried? I get the feeling SF voters will be more lenient towards their own parties inaction than they allow for others.

road_high

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

Well what about their mandate for “change” then? Have been hearing for years all the easy answers they have- the public want to see those in action now. SF will have to cobble together a government, with ff or otherwise

Cork Boy 53

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Im curious now. Which constituency was that.

Mine, Cork NW. A candidate had been selected to run for SF months ago but she withdrew and nobody replaced her.

ednwireland

Injuryprone wrote: »

So I think it'll either be a FF/FG/GP coalition or a revote. Both options would be good for SF, and I think they're smart enough to realise that.

not so sure on the revote- how stable is that level of support for SF, if they run a load more candidates and lose a couple of percent of the vote they could be dropping seats, will the voters penalise them for not using there mandate this time to effect the change they say is needed.

i dont think its a simple as revote in a couple of months=more SF seats, although it might do that