GE Exit Poll 10 pm

ygolometsipe

is_that_so wrote: »

Instant reaction to the election result.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0210/1114331-market-reaction-to-election/

great positive news


"Mr Hughes said that this could ultimately benefit Ireland's image in the eyes of international markets. "If they actually can make progress and deal in a fundamental way with problems like housing and health that impinge on the economy and broader Irish society that would be something that markets, consumers and businesses would be delighted about," he said."

Kermit.de.frog

Anyone got a link to Pat Kenny's comments?

meeeeh

GooglePlus wrote: »

You can't use a true like for like example, it doesn't fit their narrative!

You pay high taxes in Scandinavia, SF are going to scrap them. Venezuela is prime example what populist government give away can achieve and Scandinavia is an example of responsible taxation of basically everyone. So in that regard SF are closer to Venezuela, none of them are good comparisons though.

is_that_so

ygolometsipe wrote: »

great positive news


"Mr Hughes said that this could ultimately benefit Ireland's image in the eyes of international markets. "If they actually can make progress and deal in a fundamental way with problems like housing and health that impinge on the economy and broader Irish society that would be something that markets, consumers and businesses would be delighted about," he said."

Not news, an opinion.

Idbatterim

the income tax reforms as proposed by SF for "high earners" are a double edged sword. They will hit many here, thievening a living, RTE, politicians, civil servants etc. Its the private sector that could be problematic! just allow these execs reduced income tax rates, like they currently do!

GooglePlus

meeeeh wrote: »

You pay high taxes in Scandinavia, SF are going to scrap them. Venezuela is prime example what populist government give away can achieve and Scandinavia is an example of responsible taxation of basically everyone. So in that regard SF are closer to Venezuela, none of them are good comparisons though.

What taxes are SF scrapping exactly? You make it out like they're not going to collect tax at all?

McMurphy

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Anyone got a link to Pat Kenny's comments?

I didn't get to hear him this morning, what's he supposed to have said?

ygolometsipe

is_that_so wrote: »

Not news, an opinion.

Your linked article IS a news piece and it was excellent and positive.


See it was in the news section of the RTE website.


https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0210/1114331-market-reaction-to-election/

is_that_so

ygolometsipe wrote: »

Your linked article IS a news piece and it was excellent and positive.


See it was in the news section of the RTE website.


https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0210/1114331-market-reaction-to-election/

Eh it's a piece about the markets being down (news) and an opinion by an economist.

meeeeh

GooglePlus wrote: »

What taxes are SF scrapping exactly? You make it out like they're not going to collect tax at all?

USC, they are against property tax. I already explained in previous posts why I think their tax policy is insane.

is_that_so

GooglePlus wrote: »

What taxes are SF scrapping exactly? You make it out like they're not going to collect tax at all?

LPT €430m and USC for under €30K €1.2bn for starters.

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

the income tax reforms as proposed by SF for "high earners" are a double edged sword. They will hit many here, thievening a living, RTE, politicians, civil servants etc. Its the private sector that could be problematic! just allow these execs reduced income tax rates, like they currently do!

Can you edit your post so that it makes sense please?

dxhound2005

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Time now for FG to spend a few years on the opposition benches.

It will depend on how long it takes the new coalition to ruin the economy. When FG went down to 31 seats in 2002 they had to wait until 2011 when they got 76. It is a repeated pattern of FF ruining the economy and FG taking it over in its very worst state, and having to rebuild it. I can see the same happening now with SF.

elperello

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Can you edit your post so that it makes sense please?

He wants the tax code re-written to suit his prejudices.

Idbatterim

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Can you edit your post so that it makes sense please?

you dont get any of it or just a bit of it? my point is, many here are thieving a living and I am all for them paying higher tax. Basically its the private sector, where its going to be a big problem, oh and for doctors and consultants. Maybe exempt critical state employees from this higher rate. Certainly not politicians!

listermint

Ush1 wrote: »

So Sinn Fein are lying then?

Yes..like all the other manifestos.. full of asperation

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

you dont get any of it or just a bit of it? my point is, many here are thieving a living and I am all for them paying higher tax. Basically its the private sector, where its going to be a big problem, oh and for doctors and consultants. Maybe exempt critical state employees from this higher rate. Certainly not politicians!

Wait, ‘thieving a living’, what do you mean by that?

Grab All Association

Tipperary Browne SF. So Alan Kelly and Jackie Cahill to go through. FG eliminated.

Fecking snow making it difficult to type

Idbatterim

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Wait, ‘thieving a living’, what do you mean by that?

massively over paid, useless, nearly unsackable if public and civil servants, zero accountability! they are thievening a living! many of them should be paying more tax.

Itssoeasy

My first time hearing Gino Kelly talk. He doesn’t sound a complete head the ball.

GooglePlus

Idbatterim wrote: »

massively over paid, useless, nearly unsackable if public and civil servants, zero accountability! they are thievening a living! many of them should be paying more tax.

Who are these public servants, is there any specifics or are you just using the old lazy civil servant generalization?

KrustyUCC

He was shocked to get in

All but conceded yesterday

Auguste Comte

Did Farrell get his expenses fiddling, insurance scamming greedy arse back on the gravy train?

Idbatterim

is_that_so wrote: »

LPT €430m and USC for under €30K €1.2bn for starters.

not taking the piss, but FFG usually send more than that up in smoke each budget... At least this benefits primarily working people...

Itssoeasy

KrustyUCC wrote: »

He was shocked to get in

All but conceded yesterday

And to be fair looking at the numbers yesterday I mean it wasn’t looking good.

KrustyUCC

100%

Was a very long shot but everything fell right for him

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

massively over paid, useless, nearly unsackable if public and civil servants, zero accountability! they are thievening a living! many of them should be paying more tax.

Ah ok. Right, so we should tax the public service high earners more than the private sector earners, or how would that work?

By the way, did you actually read the Sinn Fein manifesto? Because you’re in for a shock when you do!

KrustyUCC

Jeez Coppinger and Ross on now

Not sad to lose those two

Itssoeasy

Ruth Coppinger and Shane Ross in studio. She sounds good upbeat which is strange.

Idbatterim

Central Bank wrote: »

Voters should be careful what they wish for, Ireland is one of the wealthiest nations on the planet, if you want to see what real poverty looks like take a look at the socialist paradise that is Venezuela.

that may be the case, funny though then isnt it. Appalling infrastructure, boil water notices, sewage over flowing into dublin bay, raw sewage being discharged into rivers and oceans here in 2020. dublins transport network is a disgrace of an unimaginable level. FIFTY percent marginal tax rate that even hits the working poor. This country?