GE Exit Poll 10 pm

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

not taking the piss, but FFG usually send more than that up in smoke each budget... At least this benefits primarily working people...

That's a straight off tax loss and LPT screws council funding. Their "costed" bill is €18bn, most of which Apple apparently will pay for.

This is it

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Ah ok. Right, so we should tax the public service high earners more than the private sector earners, or how would that work?

By the way, did you actually read the Sinn Fein manifesto? Because you’re in for a shock when you do!

Only some of them apparently, not doctors. We'll have 40 different tax systems by the sounds of what he's proposing.

KrustyUCC

Some projections now saying it will be FF 41 FG 39 and SF 38

Grab All Association

Well if Ireland is booming again, the LPT can surely be abolished now. Friday you were all saying FG fixed the economy!

Where did all the wasters who voted for SF come from if we have full employment?

is_that_so

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Jeez Coppinger and Ross on now

Not sad to lose those two

Tired of talking heads, just want results.

is_that_so

Grab All Association wrote: »

Well if Ireland is booming again, the LPT can surely be abolished now. Friday you were all saying FG fixed the economy!

Where did all the wasters who voted for SF come from if we have full employment?

What exactly is the purpose of the LPT in your opinion?

Itssoeasy

Just wondering did the whole vote mess hurt lisa chambers ? I was surprised to hear her lose her seat but I’m wondering what role that played. I see Niall Collins of FF got in so didn’t hurt him but I see Timmy Dooley in RTE saying he’s in a bit of bother.

KrustyUCC

Have to fill in the gap between votes I suppose

Just not those two

Fann Linn

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Some projections now saying it will be FF 41 FG 39 and SF 38

FF/fg plus ceann comhairle plus grealish and Lowry and Naughten.
There's a govt right out of the civil war gene pool.

Yurt2

GooglePlus wrote: »

You can't use a true like for like example, it doesn't fit their narrative!

NOT VALID! Evreyone knows societies North of 55 degrees latitude have optimal conditions for decent healthcare and societal conditions, and Ireland is effected by the North Atlantic Current which means WE SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY.

Honestly, try reading a book sometime dole sponger.

Itssoeasy

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Some projections now saying it will be FF 41 FG 39 and SF 38

Sure wasn’t it said by at least one maybe two experts that FF would be getting 60 seats or there abouts.

Idbatterim

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Ah ok. Right, so we should tax the public service high earners more than the private sector earners, or how would that work?

By the way, did you actually read the Sinn Fein manifesto? Because you’re in for a shock when you do!

they already allow certain private sector high paid workers, a lower rate of income tax. the SF will actually force those massively overpaid in the case of the PS and CS and rte to stump up thousands more. its with the private sector , this creates an issue...

KrustyUCC

Plenty of gene pool Independents as well

Idbatterim

is_that_so wrote: »

That's a straight off tax loss and LPT screws council funding. Their "costed" bill is €18bn, most of which Apple apparently will pay for.

these councils cost themselves a fortune every year. DCC even now are trying to stop johnny ronan from putting a few more floors on a low rise building in the docklands. Not enough money here for everything and they for decades here have cost us billions in investment and this is still the case now!

Itssoeasy

I’m probably getting ahead of myself but it’ll be interesting to see who is elected Ceann Comhairle in the next dail. You’d assume a SF candidate would be in the mix. Dessie Ellis maybe ?

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

these councils cost themselves a fortune every year. DCC even now are trying to stop johnny ronan from putting a few more floors on a low rise building in the docklands. Not enough money here for everything and they for decades here have cost us billions in investment and this is still the case now!

But they still cost and we're back to scraping the general expenditure pot for even more things.

Jizique

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1226844404691939328

Agree completely with this.

If you're struggling to put a roof over your head or food on the table do you really give a damn how many women may be elected?

Out of touch.

Those issues will really kick in when the loony left get in

Idbatterim

is_that_so wrote: »

What exactly is the purpose of the LPT in your opinion?

to fund the reckless councils, nearly all of whom vote to reduce it every chance they can. Then complain there isnt enough for social housing! But it gets better, they then source the most expensive housing possible on a twenty five year lease in the case of dundrum luxury apartments, the start of many!

the councils here are morons! they need a new housing agency...

McMurphy

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I’m probably getting ahead of myself but it’ll be interesting to see who is elected Ceann Comhairle in the next dail. You’d assume a SF candidate would be in the mix. Dessie Ellis maybe ?

That would be fcuking hilarious. Would definitely generate some imaginative headlines such as "explosive scenes in the dail last night":pac:

Itssoeasy

I see Danny Healy rae has apologised to the planet for his comments yesterday evening.

Fr_Dougal

Idbatterim wrote: »

they already allow certain private sector high paid workers, a lower rate of income tax. the SF will actually force those massively overpaid in the case of the PS and CS and rte to stump up thousands more. its with the private sector , this creates an issue...

Which private sector high paid workers are allowed a lower rate of income tax?

Itssoeasy

McMurphy wrote: »

That would be fcuking hilarious. Would definitely generate some imaginative headlines such as "explosive scenes in the dail last night":pac:

As I said I’m getting ahead of myself trying to not listen to Ruth Coppinger, Shane Ross and James Reilly.

laugh

The RTE player, could you play a more interesting tune, while on a break from election coverage.

Geuze

Grab All Association wrote: »

Well if Ireland is booming again, the LPT can surely be abolished now. Friday you were all saying FG fixed the economy!

Where did all the wasters who voted for SF come from if we have full employment?

LPT is a very sensible tax.

We lead Europe in non-working.

We lead Europe in inactive adults / inactive households.

See here:

https://www.esri.ie/sites/default/files/media/file-uploads/2020-01/Slides_1.pdf

Idbatterim

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Which private sector high paid workers are allowed a lower rate of income tax?

https://www.thejournal.ie/tax-scheme-multinationals-ireland-4815711-Sep2019/

Water John

CC is the first job. If FF leave the same guy forward, don't think they'll be any major opposition. He has been very fair and popular.

Idbatterim

Geuze wrote: »

LPT is a very sensible tax.

We lead Europe in non-working.

We lead Europe in inactive adults / inactive households.

See here:

https://www.esri.ie/sites/default/files/media/file-uploads/2020-01/Slides_1.pdf

yeah and house many of them in social housing for nothing , give them a few hundred a week and then, they dont even make a contribution to the local council!!! LOOOOLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

Geuze

https://www.sinnfein.ie/files/2020/SF_GE2020_Manifesto.pdf

GIVING WORKERS AND FAMILIES A BREAK – Tax Spend €2.4 BILLION
- Abolish USC on the first €30,000 earned €1,219 million
- Abolish Local Property Tax €485 million
- Increase Earned Income Credit to €1,650 €35 million
- 1 month rent relief €301 million
- Retain Mortgage interest relief €35 million
- Restore tax credit for trade union membership €40 million
- End Motor tax surcharge for quarterly and 6-month payments €43 million
- Abolish 3% stamp duty on non-life insurance policies €160 million
- Abolish 2% levy on non-life insurance policies €69 million




FUNDING REAL CHANGE AND A BETTER FUTURE – Tax Revenue €3.8 BILLION
- End the corporation tax break for the banks €175 million
- Increase income from the annual bank levy €50 million
- Tax intangible assets onshored by multinationals €722 million
- Introduce a 5% high income levy on individual incomes above €140,000 €452 million
- Taper out tax credits on individual incomes over €100,000 to €140,000 €260 million
- Introduce a wealth tax for the wealthiest 1% in the State at a rate of 1% on the
portion of net wealth held over €1 million with a number of exemptions including farms €89 million
Abolish the Special Assignee Relief Programme €23 million
- Increase Capital Acquisition Tax by 3% to rate of 36% €45 million
- Reduce subsidies to gold-plated pensions by reducing the earnings
limit and reducing the Standard Fund Threshold to €1.2 million €494 million
- Introduce a 15.75% rate of employer’s PRSI on portion of salaries
over €100,000 €532 million
- Increase excise duty on a packet of cigarettes over 5 years €175 million
- Increase Stamp Duty on commercial property to 12.5% €440 million
- Increase the Dividend Withholding Tax on REITs and IREFs to 33% €20 million
- Increase the Vacant Site Levy to 15% to prevent land hoarding €107 million
- Introduce a 2nd home charge at a rate of €400 €104 million
- Replace Help-to-Buy scheme with pubic and affordable homes €102 million

Geuze

ADDITIONAL CURRENT SPENDING MEASURES

*Numbers may not add due to rounding
€ million
Agriculture, Food and the Marine 90
Business, Enterprise and Innovation 85
Children and Youth Affairs 980
Communications, Climate Action and the Environment 245
Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht 45
Defence 15
Employment Affairs and Social Protection 3,332
Education and Skills 1,142
Foreign Affairs and Trade 50
Health 4,514
Housing, Planning and Local Government 227
Justice and Equality 272
Public Expenditure and Reform 982
Rural and Community Development 4
Transport, Tourism and Sport 265
Irish Unity Forum and Referendum Preparation 10
TOTAL 12,249*

Idbatterim

that SF proposal , on an individual level. Would actually reward workers more than the other parties propose and if they actually do something on housing , its a bonus...