GE Exit Poll 10 pm

trellheim

But FFG coalition will enrage people even more I think

If FF + FG + Green make over 80 - i.e. a majority, by definition its the will of the people as expressed by a majority


Plenty here banging on about the people have spoken but thats possibly the best expression of it.

in any event we'll see about the smoke filled room . Leo is Taoiseach until a new one gets the nod

LeinsterDub

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Newstalk is full of dinosaurs. The presenters are often so out of touch

Kenny has always been a prick however.

They know their target audience.

This is it

cmac2009 wrote: »

Good lord, where did you hear/see that? He stated nothing of the sort. It was mentioned that people had wanted to vote for Mary Lou and had wrote this on the ballot paper, seemingly not understanding it was a local election, not a national one like the presidency. He ended it by questioning are people that stupid.

Fair enough, again, it's why I'm asking for a link. It was mentioned to me in passing, I had a brief Google but could only find some Twitter posts. Would've thought if it were true there'd be more than a few mentions of it in the media.

Spanish Eyes

This is it wrote: »

There is very little that can happen in the coming days that won't help SF. If they remain in opposition they'll destroy the others in the next GE, if no government is formed and we return to the polls they also destroy the others because they'll run more candidates. As was said plenty of times already, they're in a pretty much no lose situation here.

I hear ya.

But really if they do not go into Government if they can is just ridiculous. And hopefully people will see through it. But early days.

Odhinn

This is it wrote: »

There is very little that can happen in the coming days that won't help SF. If they remain in opposition they'll destroy the others in the next GE, if no government is formed and we return to the polls they also destroy the others because they'll run more candidates. As was said plenty of times already, they're in a pretty much no lose situation here.

It leaves us Shinners with a deep existential question though - Has ar la finally come?

threeball

This is it wrote: »

There is very little that can happen in the coming days that won't help SF. If they remain in opposition they'll destroy the others in the next GE, if no government is formed and we return to the polls they also destroy the others because they'll run more candidates. As was said plenty of times already, they're in a pretty much no lose situation here.

I wouldn't be so sure. low turn out of the older generation on saturday due to the weather coupled with having to split their vote could end up very differently for them next time. They have their chance. They might not get another.

Hurrache

This is it wrote: »

Apparently he said all those who voted Sinn Fein are stupid, or something similar. I don't know how accurate that is, it's why I'm looking for a link.

He actually didn't. It was about people voting for them but not knowing their policies or something like that

Edit, clarified above already of the exact context.

Spanish Eyes

Well I for one really want to see SF in Government now.

It's all up for grabs and who knows it might just work out great for them. Bet they have a plan....

is_that_so

threeball wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure. low turn out of the older generation on saturday due to the weather coupled with having to split their vote could end up very differently for them next time. They have their chance. They might not get another.

If as it seems it's a protest vote they can evaporate quite quickly. They do have make a good effort up to and including being prepared to make concessions.

Brendan Bendar

Odhinn wrote: »

It leaves us Shinners with a deep existential question though - Has ar la finally come?

Yes, it has, get out from under your slates and walk the walk.

The time has come...... if you don’t you will prove what a lot of folk think... you are just a bunch of windbags and jerks who want to live high on the Hogg and take no responsibility.


The time has come to show us what you can do.

ygolometsipe

gmisk wrote: »

With him I don't think it is tbh....with his brother it's defo an act the cute hoor!
The thing is there are another 4 or 5 more healy-raes coming behind as well!
Including one of their sons (another Jackie) who battered an innocent guy.

I bet off air he sounds like sideshow bob. Yeah heard about the young lads beating the guy, terrible stuff.

threeball

is_that_so wrote: »

If as it seems it's a protest vote they can evaporate quite quickly. They do have make a good effort up to and including being prepared to make concessions.

Absolutely, I think if they faff about now that a lot of the people that voted for them will lose interest in them very quickly. A labour candidate said last night that the SF vote could melt like snow in a bowl, not many know that better than Labour.

Water John

So SF + FF gets to 75
Greens + Soc Dems is 18
Would be my most likely thinking.
PBP wouldn't be stable enough and very much a protest vote.

ygolometsipe

trellheim wrote: »

If FF + FG + Green make over 80 - i.e. a majority, by definition its the will of the people as expressed by a majority


Plenty here banging on about the people have spoken but thats possibly the best expression of it.

in any event we'll see about the smoke filled room . Leo is Taoiseach until a new one gets the nod

If they can form a government, they should, SF would be happy in oposition. I don't see that group staying in power for long. SF should then run more candidates and put FFG out of power.

GooglePlus

dentleybu wrote: »

Good question here, why are FG always the poll-toppers in Mayo? What is it about Mayo in particular that the majority of the electorate vote FG?

Recent Taoiseach

threeball

Water John wrote: »

So SF + FF gets to 75
Greens + Soc Dems is 18
Would be my most likely thinking.
PBP wouldn't be stable enough and very much a protest vote.

Greens should avoid government like the plague. I've a feeling it could have a short shelf life.

GooglePlus

dentleybu wrote: »

That can’t be the only reason.

I always associated the west rural counties with voting FF.

Not the only reason but a big factor, I'm sure.

Grab All Association

GooglePlus wrote: »

Recent Taoiseach

Lottery funding and Ring fixed the road!

threeball

GooglePlus wrote: »

Recent Taoiseach

No, FG have been the main party in Mayo for decades. Only the likes of P Flynn ever made inroads on the FG vote. They often returned 3 FG candidates with plenty to spare.

Water John

Kenny was always a poor vote getter. Ring was always the poll topper.

Spanish Eyes

Water John wrote: »

So SF + FF gets to 75
Greens + Soc Dems is 18
Would be my most likely thinking.
PBP wouldn't be stable enough and very much a protest vote.

Will SF step up to the plate though? Hopefully they will, and be given any portfolio other than Justice or Finance for now anyway.

A FFG coalition looking unlikely now. But stranger things have happened I suppose.

As a matter of interest, how are portfolios distributed in a multi party coalition? Apologies for being a lazy git. I suppose it is all down to negotiation and who has the largest vote share or something.

threeball

dentleybu wrote: »

That can’t be the only reason.

I always associated the west rural counties with voting FF.

North Galway would be fairly evenly split between FF and FG. West Galway predominantly FF

Brendan Bendar

Water John wrote: »

So SF + FF gets to 75
Greens + Soc Dems is 18
Would be my most likely thinking.
PBP wouldn't be stable enough and very much a protest vote.

Would like to see those wasters called out John, PBP I mean.

Bunch of tools screwing the taxpayer and doing nothing.

Time to call those cretins out.

Lot of slates being lifted here.

namloc1980

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Will SF step up to the plate though? Hopefully they will, and be given any portfolio other than Justice or Finance for now anyway.

A FFG coalition looking unlikely now. But stranger things have happened I suppose.

As a matter of interest, how are portfolios distributed in a multi party coalition? Apologies for being a lazy git. I suppose it is all down to negotiation and who has the largest vote share or something.

We've never had a coalition with two essentially evenly sized parties. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Mary Lou will have as much a right to look to be Taoiseach as Martin especially if, as it looks like, they'll end up within 1 seat of each other.

threeball

dentleybu wrote: »

Yes but if you look at surrounding constituencies it’s either FF or SF who got the majority. Mayo is the odd one out.

Why is there always an FG majority there?

No, north Galway FG and FF, Roscommon would be FF and FG also. West Galway FF and Sligo FF

Water John

SF are now equal to FF. The electorate have decided that. All offices and policy for negotiation.

IF FF and FG can't live with that, they have to come together. They can add Greens and/or Inds.

easypazz

ygolometsipe wrote: »

If they can form a government, they should, SF would be happy in oposition. I don't see that group staying in power for long. SF should then run more candidates and put FFG out of power.

If its ffgg (fianna fail, fine gael, green) then sf and pbp would be very vocal as the main opposition.

Plumbthedepths

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Would like to see those wasters called out John, PBP I mean.

Bunch of tools screwing the taxpayer and doing nothing.

Time to call those cretins out.

Lot of slates being lifted here.

You and several others are going to give yourselfs an ulcer. This level of bile and anger can't be good.

LeinsterDub

threeball wrote: »

Greens should avoid government like the plague. I've a feeling it could have a short shelf life.

The only non greens government that has the numbers would be national government, grand alliance plus SD, Lab and indies. I can't see either SD or lab being interested so then you're looking at basically grand alliance plus 10 independents

FrancieBrady

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You and several others are going to give yourselfs an ulcer. This level of bile and anger can't be good.

All day long, from here to Joe Duffy and back.

Anger and bile.

Seismic weekend alright.