GE Exit Poll 10 pm

Bobeagleburger

namloc1980 wrote: »

Simon Harris is still waiting to be elected. Pity he didn't get the boot.

He's in a waiting list...

AlmightyCushion

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Heard her mention talking to PBP, what the hell does she want going near those baboons and their looney ideas for.

I believe Labour said they wouldn't go in with Sinn Fein so she will need to seats of every other party (exclusing Fine Gael and Fianna Fail of course) to get a majority.

Grab All Association

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael can’t risk going into another election. The voters who choose Fianna Fail because they thought Sinn Féin would get nowhere. So it looks like they’ll be begging a lot of independents to prop them up.

Spanish Eyes

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What do you mean if they 'decline'?

If they cannot get a satisfactory programme for government they should NOT make the mistake of going into power at any cost.

Fair enough. But they surely can compromise or do whatever if they are equal to FF seat wise.

No need to throw the toys out of the pram just yet. SF just have no experience of this and might need to see the wood for the trees.

Their electorate may not be happy if they stick their bums on the opposition benches for another few years either. Time will tell.

RMAOK

Matt Barrett wrote: »

I'd love that scenario. FF/FG will wipe each other out, the Greens will be laughed at and we'd get a major left government for the working tax payer next time around.

That scenario would, in the long run, suit Sinn féin. Come the next election, based on that scenario, Sinn féin would-be the biggest party in Ireland.

Bobeagleburger

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I want another election, I love them. There were three of them within 18 months back in the 1980's. Happiest time of my life. How do you know what most people want?

What a time to be alive!!

rafatoni

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I believe Labour said they wouldn't go in with Sinn Fein so she will need to seats of every other party (exclusing Fine Gael and Fianna Fail of course) to get a majority.

Nearly sure PBP said the same too, heard it on newstall earlier..

Loafing Oaf

Edgware wrote: »

FF. FG.Greens
If that makes over 80 Mary Lou can sit on the opposition bench for another term

The right call for FF IMO. If they do a deal with SF, SF will pull down the gaff in six months or a year and form a broad left coalition after the GE. FF will be crucified from both sides, as all the SF-haters gravitate to FG. All FF & FG can do now is huddle together for 4/5 years and hope the SF thing is a passing fad of the voters.

is_that_so

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I want another election, I love them. There were three of them within 18 months back in the 1980's. Happiest time of my life. How do you know what most people want?

You don't but you find out very quickly what they don't want!

pjohnson

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

If SF don't get on the Gov benches this time I will be very disappointed.

If they can they should, if they decline they should be vilified.

Is this the next tactic now try to blame SF for Leo and Michael being stubborn :pac:


Surely ye can do better?

greenfield21

The fifth seat in cavan, Monaghan???

Sir Oxman

easypazz wrote: »

He had to as he was under pressure.

The up the ra comment was harmless.

The lying about it before he knew a video was bouncing about is worse.
He should be censured for that.
The 'up the ra' comment in a pub was stupid.
But if anyone thinks that affects the people who voted for them two days ago, a lot of other party voters have another thing coming (not you)

Stupid comments don't outweigh the housing/rent crisis and cost of living.
That's what SF will be judged on if ever they get to form a coalition this time around.

is_that_so

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The right call for FF IMO. If they do a deal with SF, SF will pull down the gaff in six months or a year and form a broad left coalition after the GE. FF will be crucified from both sides, as all the SF-haters gravitate to FG. All FF & FG can do now is huddle together for 4/5 years and hope the SF thing is a passing fad of the voters.

It won't be 4-5 years, a year would be good.

Strumms

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Their electorate may not be happy if they stick their bums on the opposition benches for another few years either. Time will tell.

Their electorate are literally frothing at the gills to get power, just upping their seat count doesn’t cut it for them...

pjohnson

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The right call for FF IMO. If they do a deal with SF, SF will pull down the gaff in six months or a year and form a broad left coalition after the GE. FF will be crucified from both sides, as all the SF-haters gravitate to FG. All FF & FG can do now is huddle together for 4/5 years and hope the SF thing is a passing fad of the voters.

FF and FG have been huddled together last few years and where did that get them?

Calhoun

Edgware wrote: »

FF. FG.Greens
If that makes over 80 Mary Lou can sit on the opposition bench for another term

That would be one of the best case scenarios, as we see with the gob****e in Waterford they need some work to make sure they get rid of the mistakes and links to the IRA they are trying to distance themselves from.

Be interesting to see how left they really are though.

smelly sock

The best thing FF could do is run Martin.

How they can expect people to vote for them when he is in charge is an insult. He was in cabinet when they ruined hundreds of thousands of lives.

gifted

Edgware wrote: »

FF. FG.Greens
If that makes over 80 Mary Lou can sit on the opposition bench for another term

Talk about giving two fingers to the country...FF and the greens back in power again 9/10 years after they destroyed it.....can't see FG agreeing to that.

Edgware

smelly sock wrote: »

The best thing FF could do is run Martin.

How they can expect people to vote for them when he is in charge is an insult. He was in cabinet when they ruined hundreds of thousands of lives.

At least they are alive unlike Ellis and Ferris' victims

is_that_so

smelly sock wrote: »

The best thing FF could do is run Martin.

How they can expect people to vote for them when he is in charge is an insult. He was in cabinet when they ruined hundreds of thousands of lives.

I dunno, the sense is that there is not a stable government in there so themselves and FG should start getting ready for the next election.

Loafing Oaf

is_that_so wrote: »

It won't be 4-5 years, a year would be good.

In the interests of both FF and FG, especially the former, to postpone the next election as long as possible...

rafatoni

gifted wrote: »

Talk about giving two fingers to the country...FF and the greens back in power again 9/10 years after they destroyed it.....can't see FG agreeing to that.

Never under estimate politicans and power, they would crawl over their dead grannys grave to get into power. Funnier things have happened.

limnam

Edgware wrote: »

At least they are alive unlike Ellis and Ferris' victims

Unlike a lot of cancer patients now dead from FG trying to save a few bob.

pjohnson

Edgware wrote: »

At least they are alive unlike Ellis and Ferris' victims

Did you got to Gardai with your evidence?

Strumms

smelly sock wrote: »

The best thing FF could do is run Martin.

How they can expect people to vote for them when he is in charge is an insult. He was in cabinet when they ruined hundreds of thousands of lives.

He has all the personality of a moth eaten hammock, probably a good guy but in terms of leadership, no.

ThunbergsAreGo

gifted wrote: »

Talk about giving two fingers to the country...FF and the greens back in power again 9/10 years after they destroyed it.....can't see FG agreeing to that.

The country is giving two fingers to itself with that one

joe_99

gifted wrote: »

Talk about giving two fingers to the country...FF and the greens back in power again 9/10 years after they destroyed it.....can't see FG agreeing to that.

Don't forget 50% of the country gave them their first preference and many more gave the Greens especially their no. 2. Less than 1/4 voted for Sinn Fein.

I remember a time when 60% of the people voted against FF and they ran the country with a majority. Was that 2 fingers to the country or politics?

gifted

rafatoni wrote: »

Never under estimate politicans and power, they would crawl over their dead grannys grave to get into power. Funnier things have happened.

Actually agree with you there....watching MM yesterday on whether he'd go into government with SF was a perfect example of that...the turncoat.

Yurt2

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

The right call for FF IMO. If they do a deal with SF, SF will pull down the gaff in six months or a year and form a broad left coalition after the GE. FF will be crucified from both sides, as all the SF-haters gravitate to FG. All FF & FG can do now is huddle together for 4/5 years and hope the SF thing is a passing fad of the voters.

Who will lead FF? They are holed beneath the water line, no talent coming through. Students run a mile from their former talent nursary cummans in universities. Their great white hope Lisa Chambers got drop kicked out of her seat.

Fine Gael aren't much better. We saw how the demographics broke at the exit poll. Under 45-50, fewer and fewer are voting 'big 2' and by the time you get to people in their 20s they look like small fry.

Itssoeasy

rafatoni wrote: »

Nearly sure PBP said the same too, heard it on newstall earlier..

PBP said they wouldn’t go into government with SF ? So that’s two parties out of the reckoning. The greens might get 12 or 13 and the Soc Dems may have 6 so that’s 18 or 19 more but they’ll need more than that to have anything stable.