GE Exit Poll 10 pm

Brendan Bendar

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Its a ticking timebomb. Who would want to be in power for the next 4 years.

No it’s not, just need a firm hand on the tiller and tell those greedy tools to clear off,change, or take a hike.

With SF now in charge, the bullhorn brigade, many who were dragged in on their surpluses might not have too many pickets to attend.

And the tools honking their car horns begging these greedy people to clean them out might, just might, get sense and see what is happening.

Loads of employment, economy good right now, yes some problems, but SF have told us they can handle and solve all this.

Aaaaaaand.......aaaaaaaaway.



Get on with it, time for the left to get off the pot or....

FrancieBrady

McMurphy wrote: »

Sounds a bit like Sinn Fein and their abstention stance.

It wouldn't take but 2mins of searching to find fg acolytes whinging about that though.

No more will the Brexit threads be clogged up by posters wondering why the shinners just don't take the oath to the queen and get into Westminster, despite their voters voting for them "knowing SF wouldn't take their Westminster seats".

Do some of you lads ever think before you post?:D

:D:D True Mc, so very true.

Saltiness and hypocrisy. Guess we are going to see that all out in the open now.

KrustyUCC

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

That would actually be very funny. Paul Murphy over the department with responsibility for Irish Water, Dessie Ellis as minister for justice going up to the Park to meet Drew Harris about matters of state security, Pearse Doherty magicking infinite money out of everywhere to pay for everything.

Give the people who wanted change a chance in government

May mean MM is the only FF leader not to be Taoiseach in history but so be it

He didn't win the election

Mary Lou did

JohnnyFlash

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

No it’s not, just need a firm hand on the tiller and tell those greedy tools to clear off,change, or take a hike.

With SF now in charge, the bullhorn brigade, many who were dragged in on their surpluses might not have too many pickets to attend.

And the tools honking their car horns begging these greedy people to clean them out might, just might, get sense and see what is happening.

Loads of employment, economy good right now, yes some problems, but SF have told us they can handle and solve all this.

Aaaaaaand.......aaaaaaaaway.



Get on with it, time for the left to get off the pot or....

Spot on, Brendan. Time for the rhetoric to stop. People voted for change. Now they want it to happen quickly. Time for the Shinners to cosy in beside FF and the Greens, roll up the sleeves, and get down to the business of delivering the change they promised

I’d like to see them stop the Local Property Tax pronto.

My 2nd fella isn’t shaping up to be much either - not exactly going to be a success in life. So a free gaff for him would be good.

McMurphy

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

37 candidates elected from 42 must be some sort of record. You have to hand it to Mary Lou. Really thought the party would struggle after Gerry stepped down.

Just shy of 90% (88%) if my math is correct.

Has to have been one of the highest seat return percentage in the history of the state.

Dude.

listermint

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Spot on, Brendan. Time for the rhetoric to stop. People voted for change. Now they want it to happen quickly. Time for the Shinners to cosy in beside FF and the Greens, roll up the sleeves, and get down to the business of delivering the change they promised

I’d like to see them stop the Local Property Tax pronto.

My 2nd fella isn’t shaping up to be much either - not exactly going to be a success in life. So a free gaff for him would be good.

Shame theres no such thing as a free gaff. You should let him down gently may come as a shock considering his father doesn't know either.

Christy42

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Give the people who wanted change a chance in government

May mean MM is the only FF leader not to be Taoiseach in history but so be it

He didn't win the election

Mary Lou did

He has more seats which is the definition of winning. Certainly Sinn Fein should be commended and had a brilliant performance. However the dail still works on seats and FF has them.

If ML can get enough votes together she can lead. Otherwise it is whoever manages to cobble together enough votes

limnam

Christy42 wrote: »

He has more seats which is the definition of winning. Certainly Sinn Fein should be commended and had a brilliant performance. However the dail still works on seats and FF has them.

If ML can get enough votes together she can lead. Otherwise it is whoever manages to cobble together enough votes

They have more seats.


They didn't "win" more seats


They "won" the same amount of seats.

JohnnyFlash

McMurphy wrote: »

Just shy of 90% (88%) if my math is correct.

Has to have been one of the highest seat return percentage in the history of the state.

Dude.

Absolutely. And they’d have won far more if they’d ran second and even third candidates. Huge platform for change. Now the era of overall majorities are gone here so SF will always need to do a deal with someone. Might as well start with FF and the Greens.

KrustyUCC

In reality SF +14

FF -6

Since 2016

No way MM and FF 'won' that eletion

Mantis Toboggan

McMurphy wrote: »

Just shy of 90% (88%) if my math is correct.

Has to have been one of the highest seat return percentage in the history of the state.

Dude.

Yeah serious performance in fairness.

Ush1

listermint wrote: »

Shame theres no such thing as a free gaff. You should let him down gently may come as a shock considering his father doesn't know either.

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Spot on, Brendan. Time for the rhetoric to stop. People voted for change. Now they want it to happen quickly. Time for the Shinners to cosy in beside FF and the Greens, roll up the sleeves, and get down to the business of delivering the change they promised

I’d like to see them stop the Local Property Tax pronto.

My 2nd fella isn’t shaping up to be much either - not exactly going to be a success in life. So a free gaff for him would be good.

The people giving out 'free gaffs' were not SF.
It was the parties that folk here are 'missing already' through salty tears.

facehugger99

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Look there's lots of issues because of successive governments who looked after the banks, vulture funds, private insurance companies etc. Even if SF get into government it will take many years to clean up the mess left behind.

Oh, SF are going to tackle PS pay, pensions and SW spend?

Jaysus that's great news but I thought their manifesto promised increased spending on these

listermint

Ush1 wrote: »

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

It's not free you made my point.

What's clear there is DCC are not enforcing.

Enforce the arse out of it.

Or were you expecting me to say let them away on...

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Do some of you lads ever think before you post?:D

I think you have posted on average 7.5 posts on boards.ie everyday since you joined under this current alias and the large majority of the posts have been anti-government, pro-Sinn Fein in tenor.

KrustyUCC

Ush1 wrote: »

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

Frightening article yet "Only one tenant has been evicted for rent arrears since 2014."

Sure why does anybody bother paying is that's the case?

Ush1

listermint wrote: »

It's not free you made my point.

What's clear there is DCC are not enforcing.

Enforce the arse out of it.

Or were you expecting me to say let them away on...

I agreed it isn't free?

blanch152

Ush1 wrote: »

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

Sinn Fein intend to collect that money to pay for their house-building programme, it will be interesting to watch.

EmmetSpiceland

KrustyUCC wrote: »

In reality SF +14

FF -6

Since 2016

No way MM and FF 'won' that eletion

They “won” more than they deserved.

rob316

Ush1 wrote: »

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

Its no secret the social housing program needs to be overhauled. Rent should come directly from income source and it needs to be more. I say that as council tenant myself (hopefully not for much longer).

McMurphy

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Yet we have SF supporters whinging about FG sticking to their promises????

What promises?

They promised not to go into coalition with FF?

SF are saying they're open to talks with allsides, I'm well up for seeing the big 3 enter a grand coalition we could call it SFG.

The numbers for anything else isn't feasible or viable, sticking the fingers in the ears won't disguise that, and FFG willing to walk of the pitch won't stand over them if we're back at the polls in a few weeks/Months.

SF truly have Leo and Michaél over a barrel here.

Coalesce with them.
Coalesce together making them the main opposition.
Back to the polls with SF fielding more candidates.

All to play for yet, the erosion of FFG might not have ended in Feb 2020.

seamus

McMurphy wrote: »

Just shy of 90% (88%) if my math is correct.

Has to have been one of the highest seat return percentage in the history of the state.

It's kind of meaningless though. One could argue that if three-quarters of your candidates or more are getting a seat, then you haven't run enough candidates. A 90% election rate is a good thing because you're popular where you ran. It's a bad thing because you've limited your own power.

If any party ran a single candidate in their most popular constituencies, they'd return a 100% rate, but they'd have less seats than they could get and they'd be criticised for it.

90% is a interesting footnote, but mostly its an indicator that SF were taken by surprise like everyone, and this success wasn't part of their master plan.

eeepaulo

Ush1 wrote: »

You're right, nothing is free, somebody always pays. Someone should let these tenants know:

https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-city-council-5-4956180-Jan2020/

That will all get written off, cant expect these people to take responsibility.

I corrected one line in the article

According to the council, 13,584 of tenants who are the principal earner sponger in their household, are currently in receipt of social welfare payments.

rob316

eeepaulo wrote: »

That will all get written off, cant expect these people to take responsibility.

I corrected one line in the article

It should come directly out of SW, its ridiculous at this stage it doesn't.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

I think you have posted on average 7.5 posts on boards.ie everyday since you joined under this current alias and the large majority of the posts have been anti-government, pro-Sinn Fein in tenor.

It's a public messaging board, if users stopped posting in it, it would soon become obsolete.

Besides, seems their might be on average 7.5 posts everyday that you could counter, instead of playing the man?

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

What promises?

They promised not to go into coalition with FF?

SF are saying they're open to talks with allsides, I'm well up for seeing the big 3 enter a grand coalition we could call it SFG.

The numbers for anything else isn't feasible or viable, sticking the fingers in the ears won't disguise that, and FFG willing to walk of the pitch won't stand over them if we're back at the polls in a few weeks/Months.

SF truly have Leo and Michaél over a barrel here.

Coalesce with them.
Coalesce together making them the main opposition.
Back to the polls with SF fielding more candidates.

All to play for yet, the erosion of FFG might not have ended in Feb 2020.

I don’t think you get how much FF and FG voters do not want the party they voted for going into power with SF. If either party do it they will be destroyed. I’ve voted for FG (and some independents) since I’ve turned 18. If they went in with SF I doubt I’d ever vote for them again. I don’t want my vote supporting that horrible clueless party and their terrible policies and terrible history.

I would welcome another election I don’t think it would be near as good for SF as their naive supporters think, which isn’t surprising really.

Christy42

limnam wrote: »

They have more seats.


They didn't "win" more seats


They "won" the same amount of seats.

I said he has more seats. I didn't say win so why are you getting snippy.

The Ceann Comhairle gets a vote this session the same as any that won election this year as opposed to 4 years ago. This is how the Dail works.

It doesn't work off what the change is from the last time. It doesn't work of what someone feels you deserve. It works off seats your party has and any more seats that will support you.

I am not trying to belittle what SF did. SF had a brilliant gains and is a great position to be involved in government. Indeed they are only short of FF by one vote and so may be able to make the numbers to stick ML in charge. She has not won the right to be in charge. She has won an increased say in the dail.

The reality is FF 38, SF 37, FG 35. That is what counts now.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

It's a public messaging board, if users stopped posting in it, it would soon become obsolete.

Besides, seems their might be on average 7.5 posts everyday that you could counter, instead of playing the man?

You have an agenda. You should identify yourself for what you are.

McMurphy

Grayson Tasty Springboard wrote: »

I don’t think you get how much FF and FG voters do not want the party they voted for going into power with SF. If either party do it they will be destroyed. I’ve voted for FG (and some independents) since I’ve turned 18. If they went in with SF I doubt I’d ever vote for them again. I don’t want my vote supporting that horrible clueless party and their terrible policies and terrible history.

As you are more than entitled to.

However I don't think people should sneer at you if they think the party you voted for are clueless with terrible policies and horrible history.


There's that FG arrogance again.