GE Exit Poll 10 pm

WoollyRedHat

cryptocurrency wrote: »

WollyREDhat

Colourblind.

cryptocurrency

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Colourblind.

I don't like commies and socialists, they are thick and wrong on everything. Imagine supporting a political ideal that has a catastrophic 100% failure rate.

UDAWINNER

shenanagans wrote: »

I totally agree. But why broadcast it to the nation during a rental/housing crisis....

And then tell young people to get a deposit from their parents....ah Leo....

This just showed young people how much he doesn't get their situation with rent costs and housing etc.

Agreed, the parents bit really pissed people off as not evryone has wealthy parents. He's out of touch like so many in the fg party.

efanton

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Country is screwed. They reckon 40 shineer seats of 44 candidates. If they run more they would have more. This is the start of Irelands communist revolution.

and what would be wrong with that comrade:D

Seriously though. I dont think SF would be as bad in government as many try to make out.

Just look at the billions wasted by our last four governments and tell me that they managed the country's finances wisely.

FG had €80 billlion to spend last year and the country in almost full employment, where did it go?
I see not one service that has improved, the average family no better of and no sign at all that FG or FF have a real grasp of the probelms this country is facing.

SF might surprise many. They have committed to fixing a core set of problems and if they just concentrate on them and not get distracted, I think they might actually do some good. At the very least FF and FG have been give a severe kick up the backside, and maybe a 3rd stronger party is just what this country needs to keep governments on their toes. No longer will it be the case that one party goes out of government knowing that they will soon by default be returning to government. With three parties vying for government each government know that it has to deliver their program for government and if they dont, it could be a very long time before they get another chance.
I cant see anything bad in that at all.

alastair

cryptocurrency wrote: »

Country is screwed. They reckon 40 shineer seats of 44 candidates. If they run more they would have more. This is the start of Irelands communist revolution.

Yeah. Just look at the people’s republic N.I. has become. Is shineer like paneer?

shenanagans

https://www.oceanfm.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Ocean-fm-bg-graphic-1st-pref.webp

Sligo/Leitrim exit poll is interesting....

SF 21%
FG around 17%
FF almost 28%

WoollyRedHat

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I don't like commies and socialists, they are thick and wrong on everything. Imagine supporting a political ideal that has a catastrophic 100% failure rate.

I don't like people that make sweeping bull**** statements.

Imagine not being able to engage in proper debate and trying to insinuate a poster has communist leanings because they have red in their username...

Be great if some people could engage with their brain a bit more.

This nonsense about near full employment.

How many people are on 0 hours contracts?

How many bogus self employed/freelancers are there?

How many parents have had to leave the workforce because they can't afford to put the child in childcare?

How many people are on illness benefit?

How many people are on forced training programs?

How many people engage with turas nua and therefore off the social welfare numbers?

There is NO WAY this country is near full employment.

There are lies, damn lies and statistics after all.

efanton

Deleted User wrote: »

This nonsense about near full employment.

How many people are on 0 hours contracts?

How many bogus self employed/freelancers are there?

How many parents have had to leave the workforce because they can't afford to put the child in childcare?

How many people are on illness benefit?

How many people are on forced training programs?

How many people engage with turas nua and therefore off the social welfare numbers?

There is NO WAY this country is near full employment.

There are lies, damn lies and statistics after all.

But FG says its true, so surely it must be.
They have fixed the health service
fixed the housing crisis
apparently they fixed the economy all by themselves, no worker had any part to play in it.

cryptocurrency

alastair wrote: »

Yeah. Just look at the people’s republic N.I. has become. Is shineer like paneer?

I agree, commie leftie scumbags, esp paneer

cryptocurrency

alastair wrote: »

Yeah. Just look at the people’s republic N.I. has become. Is shineer like paneer?

This is my fav post

Wanderer78

cryptocurrency wrote:

I agree, commie leftie scumbags, esp paneer

You're a mature one, aren't you!

Free market libertarians have it all figured out, don't they?

cryptocurrency

Wanderer78 wrote: »

You're a mature one, aren't you!

Free market libertarians have it all figured out, don't they?

I am a diehard Libertarian, is that an issue for you?

Wanderer78

cryptocurrency wrote:

I am a diehard Libertarian, is that an issue for you?

I've no real issue with people having beliefs as such, but you continuously bash other leanings, particularly left ideologies, without questioning the failings of your own beliefs. All ideologies have limitations causing failures, including libertarianism, and of course left leaning ideologies

efanton

cryptocurrency wrote: »

I am a diehard Libertarian, is that an issue for you?

a diehard Libertarian who it seems thinks other peoples right to vote for a party they they do not support is wrong

Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association and individual judgement. Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing economic and political systems.

From wiki, but any dictionary would give you a similar definition

Grab All Association

If there’s one thing these past two elections have shown, it is that parliamentary politics in its current form has run its course in Ireland. I can’t see any of these parties ever getting a majority again. Fianna Fáil will never be trusted with a majority because they’ll splurge and buy votes as evidenced with their SSIA 2.0 proposal. Fine Gael will not get a majority as they will target the most vulnerable in society and the unemployed. Sinn Féin still has room for growth but they’ll all be within the 20%s heading into this decade.

cryptocurrency

efanton wrote: »

a diehard Libertarian who it seems thinks other peoples right to vote for a party they they do not support is wrong


From wiki, but any dictionary would give you a similar definition

and.............we still don't block them voting fo nutters

ILoveYourVibes

efanton wrote: »

and what would be wrong with that comrade:D

Seriously though. I dont think SF would be as bad in government as many try to make out.

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I think they would. Shrug.

Plus a united Ireland would be pushed. Which would be destabilizing right now.

And we can't afford to publicly fund NI.

Lucy8080

The rise of the Shinners is all about housing,rents..affordability of living. Young people in jobs with/without degrees are struggling to live away from home. Their parents/grandparents know this too.

It's a protest vote against the established parties. They should listen. I have an old relative who told me they voted S.F. for the first time in their life.

That same relative would not have touched them before with your/my barge-pole, never mind her own.

Leroy42

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This nonsense about near full employment.

How many people are on 0 hours contracts?

How many bogus self employed/freelancers are there?

How many parents have had to leave the workforce because they can't afford to put the child in childcare?

How many people are on illness benefit?

How many people are on forced training programs?

How many people engage with turas nua and therefore off the social welfare numbers?

There is NO WAY this country is near full employment.

There are lies, damn lies and statistics after all.

No idea. Since you seem to know, how about telling us?

vladmydad

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

That does seem to be the problem. From the RTE figures, it certainly looks like we shall have to raise the voting age to 25+ before permanent damage is done to the country.

And some idiots in FG were waffling about letting 16 year olds vote in future elections. You’d have endless leftism. It should be raised to 25.

James Brown

GarIT wrote: »

They can say that now but it is absolutely not the case. Another minister also planned to have RIC names added to the memorial wall. Leo came out in strong support of the commemerations initially.

The very people who commemorate the RUC/RIC-Tans and others did not request Charlie's effort. It may have been others and not just Charlie but it was certainly not the groups who have had commemorations themselves and continue to do so. They never asked for it.
So the question is why did Charlie want to commemorate the Tans?

James Brown

vladmydad wrote: »

And some idiots in FG were waffling about letting 16 year olds vote in future elections. You’d have endless leftism. It should be raised to 25.

The aul' planet of the apes, 'dont trust anyone over 30' in reverse.
Do you hear yourselves? Calm down ffs.
Do you think anyone 25 plus is by default brighter than a 24 or younger person?
You folk are making a joke of yourselves over a non FF/FG party equalling the two sad pathetic groups we've been stuck with since the 30's.
We should be thanking SF.

um7y1h83ge06nx

The only good that might come of this for non SF voters is it may lead to the rise of a right wing alternative to counter SF. There would then be a clear alternative for people who disagree with SFs past or their policies.

I have always laughed that a centre party such as FG are branded Blueshirts, they have very n little in common with the National Guard or Blueshirts of the 1930s.

When the socialists to rose in power in Spain in the 30s it led to a rise in groups like La Falange Espagnola which provided a level of balance until foreign powers such as the USSR , Germany etc. got involved.

So we may see more change.

VinLieger

God its infuriating seeing how many people said pensions was a major issue for why they voted for SF.

Not tackling the pension time bomb like SF want to do will screw the country.

listermint

Amira Fancy Thriller wrote: »

The only good that might come of this for non SF voters is it may lead to the rise of a right wing alternative to counter SF. There would then be a clear alternative for people who disagree with SFs past or their policies.

I have always laughed that a centre party such as FG are branded Blueshirts, they have very n little in common with the National Guard or Blueshirts of the 1930s.

When the socialists to rose in power in Spain in the 30s it led to a rise in groups like La Falange Espagnola which provided a level of balance until foreign powers such as the USSR , Germany etc. got involved.

So we may see more change.

No country needs a right wing alternative. None.


And the closest we have to a socialist party is pbp despite all the rethoric I think even you'll agree on that.

Shinner supporters already saying it's fixed on social media. The reasoning is everyone they talked to were voting SF, seriously do they not realise the majority of the country reject SF. I stayed silent on my views on social media like most others, SF supporters were shouting from the rafters and anyone who had a different view were abused being called idiots and no clue what they are voting for. These same SF supporters, the ones I know, who spent their lives scamming the system but tell me how 'we' bailed out the banks

Also what lots are thinking about is the border poll they will push for. That would make SF the biggest party in ireland by a long shot, that's a scary prospect with their socialism views

lawred2

SF are not socialist. They are populist.

Social policies does not mean socialism.

They haven't done anything yet anyway and it's more likely that FF and FG will do their utmost to put SF in opposition. So unbunch your knickers and relax.

um7y1h83ge06nx

listermint wrote: »

No country needs a right wing alternative. None.


And the closest we have to a socialist party is pbp despite all the rethoric I think even you'll agree on that.

Why not, SF and a right wing party would provide a clear choice that voters could make.

Darc19

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Shinner supporters already saying it's fixed on social media. The reasoning is everyone they talked to were voting SF, seriously do they not realise the majority of the country reject SF. I stayed silent on my views on social media like most others, SF supporters were shouting from the rafters and anyone who had a different view were abused being called idiots and no clue what they are voting for. These same SF supporters, the ones I know, who spent their lives scamming the system but tell me how 'we' bailed out the banks

Also what lots are thinking about is the border poll they will push for. That would make SF the biggest party in ireland by a long shot, that's a scary prospect with their socialism views

I know someone that is on "disability" but no problem doing plenty of nixers and recently putting up posters for SF.

Never known the lazy pos to contribute to society.

But he'd lecture you on how "we" bailed out the banks.