GE Exit Poll 10 pm

xl500

This Result shows really how the People are frustrated by the same old same old FF-FG Duopoly

But the two main parties refuse to see it and FF Continue to talk about forming a Government but they only have themselves to blame for their fall from grace

FF must be the greatest collection of Cute Whores you would ever meet also by far the most corrupt just read the Tribunal Reports They destroyed the country we lost our sovereignty directly because of them and look at their behaviour recently with the Voting Scandal in the Dail and the sad thing is they see nothing wrong with that

Oh and Brian Cowen never discussed the Banking Crisis on his Round of Golf with Seanie Fitzpatrick

I would class myself as a pretty average Voter worked all my life never Voted SF but after the Economic Crash and the effect on young people I Vowed I would never Vote FF again and I never will and Michael Martin was a central minister in all of that



This result clearly shows the vast majority of people want a different Government

Wanderer78

6 wrote:

Still not convinced at Sinn Feins economic policies. Seems pie in the sky. It's based a lot on taxing the wealthy more. How does that work if the economy downturns? A lot of spoofing that people fell for. Can't blame them with the rent, house and hospital mess.

Unfortunately, there's elements of pies in the sky with everyone's economic policies, nobody really knows what to do about housing and health care issues, it's a bloody mess

dxhound2005

6 wrote: »

Over 65s the only age category that didn't have SF as number 1. Incredible really.

They'll be the biggest party in 20 years. 30/40 years ago FF and FG has 80% of the vote between them. They are gradually being eaten up.

Still not convinced at Sinn Feins economic policies. Seems pie in the sky. It's based a lot on taxing the wealthy more. How does that work if the economy downturns? A lot of spoofing that people fell for. Can't blame them with the rent, house and hospital mess.

FF an Labour are in terminal decline, but FG are steady enough.

McMurphy

charlie14 wrote: »

Forgot Charlie.

That really was a FG masterstroke in the teeth of a GE.

I can see how that could have happened alright (forgetting about Charlie) as he seemed to have been confined to an attic somewhere for the duration of the election campaign.

Same goes with Simon Harris and Eoghan Murphy, if you're explaining you're losing, if your hiding you're banjaxed.

VinLieger

6 wrote: »

Over 65s the only age category that didn't have SF as number 1. Incredible really.

They'll be the biggest party in 20 years. 30/40 years ago FF and FG has 80% of the vote between them. They are gradually being eaten up.

Still not convinced at Sinn Feins economic policies. Seems pie in the sky. It's based a lot on taxing the wealthy more. How does that work if the economy downturns? A lot of spoofing that people fell for. Can't blame them with the rent, house and hospital mess.

Not to mention how do you tax the wealthy if they leave for places that dont?

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Unfortunately, there's elements of pies in the sky with everyone's economic policies, nobody really knows what to do about housing and health care issues, it's a bloody mess

Health will become Slaintecare, they've all signed up to that. Housing will be better in 2-3 years time anyway. Whoever gets in will take the core of what's there, add their own bits and rename it.

Bobeagleburger

Imo Sinn Fein should be hoping for a FF /FG government. They'll strengthen again.

That's why I think it won't happen. SF will go in with FF and pay for it at the next election. Junior partner always gets hammered at the polls.

Wanderer78

dxhound2005 wrote:

FF an Labour are in terminal decline, but FG are steady enough.

Yup, fg are doing just grand, and I'm sure it ll be reflected when the results are tallied

Hurrache

6 wrote: »

Over 65s the only age category that didn't have SF as number 1. Incredible really.

They'll be the biggest party in 20 years. 30/40 years ago FF and FG has 80% of the vote between them. They are gradually being eaten up.

Still not convinced at Sinn Feins economic policies. Seems pie in the sky. It's based a lot on taxing the wealthy more. How does that work if the economy downturns? A lot of spoofing that people fell for. Can't blame them with the rent, house and hospital mess.

I don't think so. One spell as a government party will halt their rise, just like it does with any party. They have the advantage of never having implemented any of their policies so some people just don't know the effects they'll have, nor the reality that they'll have a finite amount of money to try cover all their promises with.

Wanderer78

is_that_so wrote:

Health will become Slaintecare, they've all signed up to that. Housing will be better in 2-3 years time anyway. Whoever gets in will take the core of what's there, add their own bits and rename it.

There's probably always gonna be serious issues in health care and housing, two of the most common issues in many countries

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Yup, fg are doing just grand, and I'm sure it ll be reflected when the results are tallied

They could get close to 40 seats. Off a possible 10% drop in support, that will be pretty good.

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

There's probably always gonna be serious issues in health care and housing, two of the most common issues in many countries

Well Slaintecare is supposed to fix that - it's a 10 year plan. Put all the currently missing elements in place and it should be a lot better.

Wanderer78

is_that_so wrote:

Well Slaintecare is supposed to fix that - it's a 10 year plan. Put all the currently missing elements in place and it should be a lot better.

Nobody can accurately predict future outcomes, don't be surprised if we re still having significant issues in health care in the future, health care systems are extremely complex beasts, it could be better or worse in 10 years, we ve no clue

Edgware

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, housing and health, campaign issues that could be flagged in your sleep.

F.G. had 9 years and plenty warnings about housing but failed to realise that it would take radical measures and promises came too late

Maewyn Succat

RandomViewer wrote: »

Confidence and supply was a FF/FG coalition, people saw through this.

I never understood how people saw it this way when FF had no ministers. If it was a coalition then Michael Martin would have been Tanaiste.

Hurrache

Edgware wrote: »

F.G. had 9 years and plenty warnings about housing but failed to realise that it would take radical measures and promises came too late

Apparently, stats wise, things are improving though

Sir Oxman

is_that_so wrote: »

Well Slaintecare is supposed to fix that - it's a 10 year plan. Put all the currently missing elements in place and it should be a lot better.

When does this 10 years start?
What have FG (the govt) done to kickstart it, are we two years behind already?

is_that_so

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Nobody can accurately predict future outcomes, don't be surprised if we re still having significant issues in health care in the future, health care systems are extremely complex beasts, it could be better or worse in 10 years, we ve no clue

I'm a little more confident seeing that the plan is long term, rather than the usual plaster fix.

FrancieBrady

Health was the single biggest concern of voters according to the exit poll. Yet it didn't feature at all in the first leaders debate and hardly at all during the campaign.

The electorate have, if nothing else, hopefully re-set what the priorities should be.

is_that_so

Sir Oxman wrote: »

When does this 10 years start?
What have FG (the govt) done to kickstart it, are we two years behind already?

No, it's already started and it's an ALL-party initiative.

https://www.gov.ie/en/campaigns/slaintecare-implementation-strategy/

Wanderer78

is_that_so wrote:

I'm a little more confident seeing that the plan is along term, rather than the usual plaster fix.

Long term plans are definitely the way to go, but I'd say there's many serious hurdles ahead there

VinLieger

Sir Oxman wrote: »

When does this 10 years start?
What have FG (the govt) done to kickstart it, are we two years behind already?

Yup started 2 or 3 years ago we're about 1-2 years behind on some parts already. But any party saying they are going to fix healthcare is lying as they all agreed to implement this and any of their ideas come straight out of its plan

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

do they not realise the majority of the country reject SF

**Looks at exit polls results**

The majority rejected every single party that was standing for election. Time to upgrade the calculator chief.

is_that_so

McMurphy wrote: »

**Looks at exit polls results**

The majority rejected every single party that was standing for election. Time to upgrade the calculator chief.

It's our very own version of none of the above!

dxhound2005

McMurphy wrote: »

**Looks at exit polls results**

The majority rejected every single party that was standing for election. Time to upgrade the calculator chief.

The new party created by SF supporters on Boards got 44%. FFG.

Sir Oxman

is_that_so wrote: »

No, it's already started and it's an ALL-party initiative.

https://www.gov.ie/en/campaigns/slaintecare-implementation-strategy/

"
Social Democrats joint leader Róisín Shortall said the Sláintecare plan had been agreed by all parties in 2017. However, she said it had got off “to a very bad start”.
She said the follow- through from the Government on implementing the plan had been disappointing and much too slow. She said no specific budget had been allocated for the reform plan in 2018 and that the money earmarked in 2019 had come nowhere close to allowing for the step changes set out in the programme."

tototoe

Gave sf a low preference, i didnt know enough about their candidate for a no1
voted independent mainly, and nothing to ff or fg.

Its absolutely hilarious to see FG and FF here and across social media so rattled by the rise of SF though. Best thing in ages. The duopoly is slowly coming to an end. Thank god.

The transfers are going to be interesting, many i know gave nothing to ff/fg

McMurphy

dxhound2005 wrote: »

FF an Labour are in terminal decline, but FG are steady enough.

The final seat count will be interesting so. Even if they haemorrhage seats they'll still be steady enough in some people's eyes.

FrancieBrady

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The new party created by SF supporters on Boards got 44%. FFG.

Now all they have to do, is merge and get it over with.

ednwireland

efanton wrote: »

But its not as simple as that is it?

Last year the government had €82.0 billion to play with. A lot of that disappeared to service debts, but you would have to ask how could a country that has that much revenue coming in cannot distribute that money in a more equitable way.

Everything has to be paid for, we all get that, but when you give €16.8m funding to greyhounds when the same money could provide extra beds in hospitals there has to be something horribly wrong with the way our governments work. Too much money is given to looking after party supporters and those that 'need' to be looked after, and when it comes to the really big issues we are told the money isnt there. Of course every general election, FG and FF borrow that famous money tree from SF for yet more sweeteners to spend money that wasnt there only a week or two before.
Parish politics, and looking after 'those certain groups' is what is and has been killing this country for decades.

there is no party standing that are willing to change that