GE Exit Poll 10 pm

McMurphy

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The people could live in some of the 200,000 empty houses while they are waiting for their new house to be built.

They've been empty since 2009 or thereabouts.

My guess is it would have been cheaper to finish them/refurbish them and make them available as social/affordable homes that would have been state owned (an asset) than what the govt did for the last 9 years.

Putting folk up in hotels, B&Bs and subsidizing private buy to let landlords mortgages was the route FG chose though.

olestoepoke

Is there anyone that can summarise the results so far? Thanks in advance.

Doctors room ghost

olestoepoke wrote: »

Is there anyone that can summarise the results so far? Thanks in advance.

A Sinn Fein surge

easypazz

olestoepoke wrote: »

Is there anyone that can summarise the results so far? Thanks in advance.

Paddy power ff47, fg38, sf37

Sir Oxman

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

First count results in some constituencies are expected in mid to late afternoon.

Mine, Dub MW is due about now-ish

This is it

emo72 wrote: »

Joan Burton and Regina Doherty. Somebody please tell me they're finished.

Doherty 4 points off Thomas Byrne with 70%+ counted last I checked. She's gone I'd say. O'Rourke, McEntee and Byrne

CiarraiAbu2

olestoepoke wrote: »

Is there anyone that can summarise the results so far? Thanks in advance.

No seat filled yet

https://www.rte.ie/news/election-2020/results/#/national

Plumbthedepths

easypazz wrote: »

Paddy power ff47, fg38, sf37

Incredible if SF can translate 42 candidates into 37 seats.

Guy:Incognito

McMurphy wrote: »

They've been empty since 2009 or thereabouts.

My guess is it would have been cheaper to finish them/refurbish them and make them available as social/affordable homes that would have been state owned (an asset) than what the govt did for the last 9 years.

Putting folk up in hotels, B&Bs and subsidizing private buy to let landlords mortgages was the route FG chose though.

Every time the subject comes up on here of doing that, there's a slew of reasons why it's unfair to ask people to take a free house not in Dublin beside their family.

statesaver

What are the chances we will be back here again in 6 - 8 months

Sir Oxman

Hercule Poirot

thequarefellow wrote: »

Very surprised. She's been all over the TV and was seen as young blood for a party severely lacking in same.

Her involvement in the Votegate thing hurt her more than people realise, after decades of politicians getting away with all sorts seeing a young up and comer being dodgy is the last thing people want to see

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

They've been empty since 2009 or thereabouts.

My guess is it would have been cheaper to finish them/refurbish them and make them available as social/affordable homes that would have been state owned (an asset) than what the govt did for the last 9 years.

Putting folk up in hotels, B&Bs and subsidizing private buy to let landlords mortgages was the route FG chose though.

regardless of party affiliation, everyone should agree with the broad point here for sure

propping up investments with taxes when assets were going for a song, an awful approach.

Shelga

I don't think it's an overreaction or patronising to voters to have serious concerns about the impact Sinn Fein being in government will have on the economy.

National debt is currently €233bn. A lot of their plans involve borrowing, at a particularly dangerous time in the Irish economy, with some sort of global recession widely predicted in the next 1-2 years. If interest rates go up and SF have borrowed a load more money, we're fooked.

People want to believe they'll fix all the problems in Irish society, grand, let them at it. Democracy in action.

I just think that none of our options are particularly appealing, rather than believing that SF are going to swoop in on their white horse and really change anything for the better.

Cheerful Spring2

easypazz wrote: »

Paddy power ff47, fg38, sf37

SF will probably be at 39 to 40 seats, when it's over?

Hammer Archer

Did I hear that Zappone and Ross are struggling? Would make my day if both lost their seats.

VinLieger

limnam wrote: »

It was signed 3 years ago.


FG have been in the driving seat for the last 3 years. NOT SF.

I suppose ill say it again maybe in caps so you read it this time THEY ALL SIGNED UP TO THE SAME PLAN

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Every time the subject comes up on here of doing that, there's a slew of reasons why it's unfair to ask people to take a free house not in Dublin beside their family.

find me a job near a free house down the country, i'll be there 9am tomorrow!

Hurrache

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hearing Whitmore (SD) is in in Wicklow at the expense of Donnelly (FF).

Delighted. I could never forgive him for joining FF, after I voted him firstly as an ind and then a SD.

For a clever man, that was a ridiculously stupid move.

Another fall from grace that can join Ross. He was pretty awful in recent debates and like Ross, another that found it easier to hurl from the populist ditch. It'll be interesting to see if he's out for certain.

Tony EH

C__MC wrote: »

Sad demise of the labour party
Founded by a great man but their in steep decline

It's a demise they created themselves. They got into bed with FG and allowed themselves to be their poodle, trying to sell the likes of Irish Water to a voter base that would be opposed to it and pumping up rubbish like Jobbridge.

Can't say I have any sympathy for them.

listermint

Shelga wrote: »

I don't think it's an overreaction or patronising to voters to have serious concerns about the impact Sinn Fein being in government will have on the economy.

National debt is currently €233bn. A lot of their plans involve borrowing, at a particularly dangerous time in the Irish economy, with some sort of global recession widely predicted in the next 1-2 years. If interest rates go up and SF have borrowed a load more money, we're fooked.

People want to believe they'll fix all the problems in Irish society, grand, let them at it. Democracy in action.

I just think that none of our options are particularly appealing, rather than believing that SF are going to swoop in on their white horse and really change anything for the better.

The real power.

The civil service is going no where.

Anyone who doesn't understand how it works would share your concerns.

Guy:Incognito

[Deleted User] wrote: »

find me a job near a free house down the country, i'll be there 9am tomorrow!

Like half of Dublin who had to buy houses in Laoise and commute?

If you are "homeless" , the chance of a council house down the country should have you running down there to get it.

listermint

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Did I hear that Zappone and Ross are struggling? Would make my day if both lost their seats.

Zappone inside and outside politics did more for her community than you can ever imagine equally more than most politicians ever do.

Hurrache

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

And who will be running the health service tomorrow even if there's a complete change of government?

The unions.

VinLieger

listermint wrote: »

Zappone inside and outside politics did more for her community than you can ever imagine equally more than most politicians ever do.

Yeah but she was a fecking useless minister for children

_Kaiser_

listermint wrote: »

Zappone inside and outside politics did more for her community than you can ever imagine equally more than most politicians ever do.

Still not one who should have ever been anywhere near power in Government, and I'll be one of those very happy if she, along with Lord Ross, are out of the game later today.

road_high

Shelga wrote: »

I don't think it's an overreaction or patronising to voters to have serious concerns about the impact Sinn Fein being in government will have on the economy.

National debt is currently €233bn. A lot of their plans involve borrowing, at a particularly dangerous time in the Irish economy, with some sort of global recession widely predicted in the next 1-2 years. If interest rates go up and SF have borrowed a load more money, we're fooked.

People want to believe they'll fix all the problems in Irish society, grand, let them at it. Democracy in action.

I just think that none of our options are particularly appealing, rather than believing that SF are going to swoop in on their white horse and really change anything for the better.

Yep. Very scary prospect as a taxpayer but I respect democracy and the voters choice- there are consequences to choices in life though, as you say nothing wrong with pointing that out or holding sf to account on their economic policies.
Public finances are quite fragile, we have a huge debt to service and any downturn could quickly put us in deficit and under pressure. People don’t want to hear that evidently but that doesn’t make it wrong to point it out to them regardless

limnam

VinLieger wrote: »

I suppose ill say it again maybe in caps so you read it this time THEY ALL SIGNED UP TO THE SAME PLAN

I'll say it again.


FG have done fck all for 9 years.


They've done fck all with the plan in the last 3 years.


People committing suicide they're on trollys that long.


But fck it. This is the best we can hope for.


Christ all mighty.


No wonder SF are running amok.

Eric Cartman

listermint wrote: »

Zappone inside and outside politics did more for her community than you can ever imagine equally more than most politicians ever do.

Did more harm...

Hurrache

McMurphy wrote: »

Never seen that John, I'd be rightly annoyed at them if true.

This is the point many are making, they've some pretty dodgy character who's history you don't have to go too far back to. Imagine him having access to the department of justice and special branch?