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GE Exit Poll 10 pm

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    #1562
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    We already had tax hikes to pay for it and the amount of money squandered on Irish water and meters is disgusting not to mention the lucrative pensions given to those after only a few years.
    I have no problem with tax increases for water but I'd like it in the constitution to ensure when the next bust happens its not sold to some pension fund company.
    Having it come from general tax is **** all use when a large chunk of people end up out of work in a recession and not paying tax.


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    #1563
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,103 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    E-voting would have made things so boring. Hopefully they run the elections always on a Saturday, worked so much better to give people a chance to vote.

    Boring but completely accurate. There will be numerous rows and recounts because of the pencil and paper method. It was the journalists that did for the computers, when they saw how good it was.


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    #1564
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    To make such a closed statement on tv is rather stupid IMO
    Really stupid.

    It smacks of closing the shop and that is one of the reasons I believe for the massive swing to SF.
    Let them at it so.

    ? They made the statements before the election. To change stance now would be going back on promises. I thought that's not what people want politicians to do ?


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    #1565
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    STB. wrote: »
    Looks most likely like a Fianna Fail - Fine Gael government with Micheal at the reigns this time. Otherwise its back to the electorate again.


    Seems nobody wants to have any truck with SF. The General Secretary of FG has reiterated that position. Is the FF position the same ?
    Which would barley give a majority.


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    #1566
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Stop making out like it was a war with two sides. It was a terrorism campaign of bombings and smashing people's knees with cudgels and baseball bats. The IRA are not soldiers, they're thugs.

    If you voted for the GFA in the 1998 referendum you voted for days like today.


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    #1567
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 21,103 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    seannash wrote: »
    Why cant it be FF/Greens/independents to form a coalition??

    Paddy Power seems to think it might

    The Greens will have to think long and hard about going into government. They would not want to be blamed for standing in the way of tens of thousands of new houses being built on green fields.


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    #1568
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,174 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Boring but completely accurate. There will be numerous rows and recounts because of the pencil and paper method. It was the journalists that did for the computers, when they saw how good it was.

    Not neccessarily, the machines are incredibly vulnerable to tampering, watched a video on youtube of someone getting into the ones most widely used in the states in less than 60 seconds


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    #1569
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    thequarefellow wrote: »
    Many who voted SF will be happy with this. It will see the slow demise of FF speed up.


    The demise has been more so on the FG side.

    FF will have the most seats so I don't know where you are coming from there.

    The middle ground and void that was the Labour Party has been hoovered up by SF.

    Interesting times. Will FF have a change of mind re SF, because we know what the only alternative is.


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    #1570
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    ? They made the statements before the election. To change stance now would be going back on promises. I thought that's not what people want politicians to do ?


    Yes they did.
    Which was for a wider audience but ultimately only their own listened.
    then, instead of staying neutral today they double down.
    It isn't very clever as one of the pundits has just said their day is over when they can decide who is worthy of speaking to with SF on a quarter of the vote.


    It's simply incredibly stupid to show your hand (or double down on it)


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    #1571
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Boring but completely accurate. There will be numerous rows and recounts because of the pencil and paper method. It was the journalists that did for the computers, when they saw how good it was.

    Completely accurate until they are hacked. Can never be made secure enough


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    #1572
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Not offended in the slightest, in fact I was typing out how your attitude was nothing but hypocritical pontificating with a big grin on my face.

    The lobsided/hypocritical stances in some folks arguments are easier to spot than others.

    Yours stood out like a sore thumb tbh.

    Like I said, it's not my argument, it's one of the reasons that has been given time and time again, and I don't completely disagree.

    You won't come across as obnoxious as you currently are when you come to this reality.


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    #1573
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,308 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    seannash wrote: »
    Why cant it be FF/Greens/independents to form a coalition??

    Paddy Power seems to think it might

    The experience of having the likes of Shane Ross and Zappone in government should put anyone off ever having an independent in government again.


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    #1574
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,174 ✭✭✭limnam


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Completely accurate until they are hacked. Can never be made secure enough


    We can secure the purchasing of a vibrator but not an e-voting machine.


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    #1575
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    John Waters and Gemma o doherty tallies below 2 percent...lol


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    #1576
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Which was also stupid but a dogwhistle only to their own.
    When the results are looking like nothing before, don't box yourself in is beyond the actual chairs of both parties.

    I agree, but I think they dug that hole too deep before now.


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    #1577
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users Posts: 18,019 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    That is so embarrassing for this country.
    Jesus

    The west brits are squirming now!

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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    #1578
    [Deleted User]
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Like I said, it's not my argument, it's one of the reasons that has been given time and time again, and I don't completely disagree.

    You won't come across as obnoxious as you currently are when you come to this reality.

    think mcmurphy is being fair enough throughout the thread, and bear in mind ill be one of the first against the wall when the shinners ascend!


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    #1579
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Eoin o Broin really is a very impressive speaker, whatever your opinion on SF


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    #1580
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    limnam wrote: »
    We can secure the purchasing of a vibrator but not an e-voting machine.

    Russia doesn't have much interest in your vibrator purchases


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    #1581
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭threeball


    road_high wrote: »
    Hear hear. He came in on a mandate of “looking after those who work” but did very little for us in reality- we needed and a deserved a healthy tax cut last budget. Instead they liked the carbon tax and gave a Xmas bonus to people that never even vote FG.

    They should have tackled insurance costs and welfare fallbacks for the self employed. The middle class should have been looked after in relation to housing, transport/commuting and possibly taxation. Something simple like a tax credit for working from home split between employer and employees would have been welcomed.


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    #1582
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    The west brits are squirming now!

    Has to be the Irish equivalent to Godwin's law.

    Have you been in a coma since the Brexit vote?


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    #1583
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 82,865 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    When will Leo address the country?


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    #1584
    [Deleted User]
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Eoin o Broin really is a very impressive speaker, whatever your opinion on SF

    people have always said this about doherty and himself and ive to say, ive never seen it meself.


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    #1585
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 18,174 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Mantis Toboggan wrote: »
    The west brits are squirming now!

    With us or against us ehh?


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    #1586
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The Greens will have to think long and hard about going into government. They would not want to be blamed for standing in the way of tens of thousands of new houses being built on green fields.

    They need to be built on brownfield and redeveloping sites in urban areas. Not in green fields ( as much as is practical )


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    #1587
    [Deleted User]
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    Has to be the Irish equivalent to Godwin's law.

    nope, thats the garlic trader who was jailed, sorry


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    #1588
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    500 million wasted by FF.

    When did 50 become 500, what is it with you and your inability to be truthful?


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    #1589
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,134 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    people have always said this about doherty and himself and ive to say, ive never seen it meself.
    Agree to disagree.
    I find both hugely impressive, much more so than Mary Lou


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    #1590
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,174 ✭✭✭limnam


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Russia doesn't have much interest in your vibrator purchases


    Interest != vulnerability.


    If there was enough appetite to get it done. It's very possible to secure X.


    It happens all the time.


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    #1591
    seannash
    Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The Greens will have to think long and hard about going into government. They would not want to be blamed for standing in the way of tens of thousands of new houses being built on green fields.

    If thats the only obstacle i cant understand why no one is talking about this option??
    Surely if your a party you want to be at the top table


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