GE Exit Poll 10 pm

charlie14

From what I can see SF didn`t run enough candidates and they are making serious inroads into all others on the left.
The combined FG/FF vote hasn`t dropped to the extent that their combined seats will not get them that close to the magic 80 seats as makes no difference.
Whichever one of them that can put the most numbers together from other parties and Independents will form a government with a confidence and supply agreement from the other
With both their general secretaries today ruling out SF, I cannot see any other outcome tbh.

I see sheep

SF top Galway West! Wohooo yes baby

Jinglejangle69

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

When did 50 become 500, what is it with you and your inability to be truthful?

Sorry 50 million.

That's better.

1 million on a printer and you lost your marbles.

What you think of the 50 million?

limnam

Deleted User wrote: »

people have always said this about doherty and himself and ive to say, ive never seen it meself.

Whatever about doherty


It's very difficult to fault Eoin o Broin

Muahahaha

Itd be great now if RTE could get Eoghan Harris on for a rant, he could tell us all when the ethnic cleansing is going to begin.

FLaris

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

The west brits are squirming now!

I doubt they’re alone. Anyone sickened by events like the murder of 29 in Omagh, the murder of a widowed mother of 10 etc is feeling quite similar.

Grab All Association

When they failed to form a government in 2016, Fine Gael were criticising bot Fianna Fáil and Sinn Féin for not coming to the table to negotiate on Rté. They’ve changed their tune with publicly with Fianna Fáil this time. They weren’t expecting such a surge.

Again to reiterate, Parliamentary politics has had its run in this country. It’s too divided between the poor, the middle and the privileged. Coming into this decade an alternative political system will have to emerge otherwise we’ll be seeing elections like this once a year.

LeinsterDub

limnam wrote: »

Interest != vulnerability.


If there was enough appetite to get it done. It's very possible to secure X.


It happens all the time.

There really isn't.

https://xkcd.com/2030/

lmimmfn

Muahahaha wrote: »

Itd be great now if RTE could get Eoghan Harris on for a rant, he could tell us all when the ethnic cleansing is going to begin.

Ross would be even better

pjohnson

charlie14 wrote: »

From what I can see SF didn`t run enough candidates and they are making serious inroads into all others on the left.
The combined FG/FF vote hasn`t dropped to the extent that their combined seats will not get them that close to the magic 80 seats as makes no difference.
Whichever one of them that can put the most numbers together from other parties and Independents will form a government with a confidence and supply agreement from the other
With both their general secretaries today ruling out SF, I cannot see any other outcome tbh.

Confidence and supply will guarantee SF next time around away. Their handholding this time is what helped SF. Reinforcing they are the same wont win people over.

listermint

charlie14 wrote: »

From what I can see SF didn`t run enough candidates and they are making serious inroads into all others on the left.
The combined FG/FF vote hasn`t dropped to the extent that their combined seats will not get them that close to the magic 80 seats as makes no difference.
Whichever one of them that can put the most numbers together from other parties and Independents will form a government with a confidence and supply agreement from the other
With both their general secretaries today ruling out SF, I cannot see any other outcome tbh.

Appears their attitude is changing as the hours go by... Watch rte.

dxhound2005

seannash wrote: »

If thats the only obstacle i cant understand why no one is talking about this option??
Surely if your a party you want to be at the top table

Last time they were at the top table they got wiped out in the next election. Down from 6 seats to zero in 2011. They did the wise thing in 2016 to keep their 2 TD's out of government.

is_that_so

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sorry 50 million.

That's better.

1 million on a printer and you lost your marbles.

What you think of the 50 million?

The printer was not the problem, it was the utter lack of planning that went with getting it into the building.

limnam

LeinsterDub wrote: »

There really isn't.

https://xkcd.com/2030/

Sure it is.


Can you do it cheaply and keep the complexity low enough people can easily use it.


That's much more difficult.


But possible.

VinLieger

limnam wrote: »

Interest != vulnerability.


If there was enough appetite to get it done. It's very possible to secure X.


It happens all the time.

No computer system can ever be considered 100% secure, it doesnt even have to be connected to the internet, simply gaining physical access is enough in most cases. Paper ballots are the most secure voting system because you cannot rig an entire set of ballots anywhere near as easily, ask any cyber sec expert and you will hear exactly the same

JohnnyFlash

Cashed out my €100 bet on a FF/SF government. Backed it at 14/1. In to 3/1 favourite now. Made a few quid.

Hurrache

[Deleted User] wrote: »

people have always said this about doherty and himself and ive to say, ive never seen it meself.

He spoke well and statesman like on RTE just a short while ago.(Eoin I mean)

is_that_so

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Last time they were at the top table they got wiped out in the next election. Down from 6 seats to zero in 2011. They did the wise thing in 2016 to keep their 2 TD's out of government.

That was 2008 that killed them and less about FF. I reckon they were unlucky but it was coming. They'll deal this time.

Muahahaha

RTE reporting that Regina Docherty is in trouble. That is no surprise after her appearance on Prime Time when she told the young couple paying sky high rents and commuting 3 hours a day that their predicament was a sign of Fine Gaels economic success and we should all be happy. In that one moment she showed how out of touch she is right in front of an audience of her own constituents. It was a lightbulb moment for the voters of Meath.

is_that_so

Hurrache wrote: »

He spoke well and statesman like on RTE just a short while ago.

He's not bad when he's not My Angry!

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

Confidence and supply will guarantee SF next time around away. Their handholding this time is what helped SF. Reinforcing they are the same wont win people over.

if they went into govt again and *failed to address housing and health* ill vote sf meaelf next time

the arrangement isnt the issue. the trying to be all things to all men while ignoring actual issues is

Hurrache

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The Greens will have to think long and hard about going into government. They would not want to be blamed for standing in the way of tens of thousands of new houses being built on green fields.

It's the height of short term planning failings, and frankly stupidity, to rush in and build on green field sites.

Worked out well during the 80s, and commuters outside the M50 are still enduring the effects of this dumb planning decades later.

lawred2

Shane Ross gone could be a high point of election 2020 at least..

Any word on Zappone? Like to see the back of her too.

gmisk

lawred2 wrote: »

Shane Ross gone could be a high point of election 2020 at least..

Any word on Zappone? Like to see the back of her too.

She is in serious trouble as well!

dxhound2005

VinLieger wrote: »

No computer system can ever be considered 100% secure, it doesnt even have to be connected to the internet, simply gaining physical access is enough in most cases. Paper ballots are the most secure voting system, ask any cyber sec expert and you will hear exactly the same

We could have a system where the current paper votes are scanned and the computer produces an instant fully accurate result. The papers would be counted in the usual way as well. If this worked for two elections, then it could computer only doing the count. That would save a very big amount of money which is spent on the counts.

Hurrache

Hurrache wrote: »

He spoke well and statesman like on RTE just a short while ago.

he was good, yes.

this may be a hangover from his old trotsy-cosplay days, so im open to being wrong here. its the day for it tbf!

_Kaiser_

Oh look.. Simon Harris is alive!

is_that_so

Muahahaha wrote: »

RTE reporting that Regina Docherty is in trouble. That is no surprise after her appearance on Prime Time when she told the young couple paying sky high rents and commuting 3 hours a day that their predicament was a sign of Fine Gaels economic success and we should all be happy. In that one moment she showed how out of touch she is right in front of an audience of her own constituents. It was a lightbulb moment for the voters of Meath.

It's actually the SF vote pushing three of them into competition for two seats and she's the most marginal.

LeinsterDub

limnam wrote: »

Sure it is.


Can you do it cheaply and keep the complexity low enough people can easily use it.


That's much more difficult.


But possible.

So you trust the software engineers? Do you trust the operating system's engineers? Do you connect it to the internet? Do you allow updates? I assume you keep the machines under armed guard 24 /7. You've far too many risks.

https://www.acm.org/public-policy/e-voting-remains-insecure

gmisk

dxhound2005 wrote: »

We could have a system where the current paper votes are scanned and the computer produces an instant fully accurate result. The papers would be counted in the usual way as well. If this worked for two elections, then it could computer only doing the count. That would save a very big amount of money which is spent on the counts.

Good in principle but OCR isn't completely accurate remember