GE Exit Poll 10 pm

limnam

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

I am lost with regards much of where your anger lies. Our debt burden is generally why tax is so high. The main reasons for that debt burden aren't a mystery. The social welfare issue is red herring stuff especially considering our current rate of unemployment. The issues of housing, homeless and health are generally where FG has been seen to fail and pushed the electorate away.

The reason some party hasn't come along to target the demographic you suggest is even given how prone politics is to fairytale promises this would be a bridge too far. There isn't given current fiscal restraints some magic bullet that allows any party to start making promises to those sections that their burden will be less. Who you choose to blame and see as the reasons for that situation are up to you. Shouting about red herring issues that you think can be fixed and rain money from the sky to give middle-income households huge tax breaks shows just as much delusion as you think is exhibited by your words 'the loony lefties'.

Not angry at all.


You think it's too much to ask to want a relatively competent alternative to vote for ?


You think we have as good as it gets?


Didn't think I was asking for much *shrug*

Hurrache

Calhoun wrote: »

I don't know why this would be a surprise for anyone, MM cannot be the only FF leader never to be leader of the country.

It's not coming from him though, party officially is still no deal, but some of his foot soldiers are getting restless.

Gringo180

Come on the Shinners. Unbelievable results coming in for them.

Itssoeasy

padd b1975 wrote: »

Not exactly putting their necks on the line with those margins.

It's mad even on RTÉ the two representatives of FG and FF who it's fair to say this election isn't their first day out were very hesitant to be drawn on number of seats. The last seat in a lot of constituencies will be down to the wire.

Spanish Eyes

I hope an FF/SF coalition emerges. Housing and Health portfolios to SF.

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/02/04/panic-in-sinn-fein-as-they-might-be-forced-to-follow-through-on-election-promises/

Galwayguy35

Hurrache wrote: »

Some FF potential TDs are starting to lower the ropes to climb down to the possibility of working with SF.

Which of them was saying that?

dxhound2005

McMurphy wrote: »

Well seeing as Leo was pleading for more time to do the things he has suddenly become so passionate about (health and housing) 9 years might be a reasonable assumption.

We should threaten to stop their wages. That got SF to finally agree the coalition in the North.

is_that_so

gmisk wrote: »

First actual results coming in now!
Galway east

Probably as you were. No SF seat there.

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

First actual results coming in now!
Galway east

result- no result yet ðŸ˜

Brendan Bendar

Ferriter on the air..... should be a fairly biased contribution.

Nice little earner up the road foot in every camp....... uhmm

gmisk

is_that_so wrote: »

Probably as you were. No SF seat there.

Louis ohara over 7k second on first count....still think that?

Muahahaha

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Cashed out my €100 bet on a FF/SF government. Backed it at 14/1. In to 3/1 favourite now. Made a few quid.

What bookies were offering 14/1 and when did you lay it? Have never seen it any greater than 8/1 with Paddy Power

Itssoeasy

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Which of them was saying that?

Well I saw Michael martins favourite TD John McGuinness talking about it and not ruling it in or out. Although that could him saying the opposite of michael Martin.

Mantis Toboggan

Simon Harris reelected by the people of Wicklow.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity!

is_that_so

gmisk wrote: »

Louis ohara over 7k second on first count....still think that?

Yeah, look at FF & FG combined totals, especially FF. They have a quota. They should exchange transfers to pass SF.

McMurphy

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I hope an FF/SF coalition emerges. Housing and Health portfolios to SF.

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/02/04/panic-in-sinn-fein-as-they-might-be-forced-to-follow-through-on-election-promises/

Continuing on a naivety trajectory, it would be extremely foolish to assume that SF would allow themselves to be mudguards for anyone in any hypothetical arrangement.

Extremely foolish indeed.

Brendan Bendar

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I hope an FF/SF coalition emerges. Housing and Health portfolios to SF.

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2020/02/04/panic-in-sinn-fein-as-they-might-be-forced-to-follow-through-on-election-promises/

Be careful what you wish for if you earn over 35k.


Sure as shooting their own support base won’t be hit.


Trust me on that.....

two comments as asides

id shift miriams tectonic plates

and what the **** is frank flannery doing on here? do i not recall him shunted out in disgrace or am i totally gone mad?

statesaver

gmisk wrote: »

Louis ohara over 7k second on first count....still think that?

Where will the transfers come from, i wonder ?

is_that_so

Deleted User wrote: »

two comments as asides

id shift miriams tectonic plates

and what the **** is frank flannery doing on here? do i not recall him shunted out in disgrace or am i totally gone mad?

He's good on this stuff.

Grab All Association

adocholiday wrote:

you could be like me and many of friends and family who feel that we have no representation. As a middle class PAYE worker on a relatively decent salary I just feel shafted by every one of them. SF think I'm not paying enough tax, the loony lefties think we should be giving the layabouts more money for scratching themselves, and FF/FG just let business and money dictate how they run things.

Where is the party that represents those of us who want to work, pay our mortgage, raise our families, and avail of decent public services? The vast majority of the population genuinely has nobody that really represents them (and no SF are absolutely not the answer).

The reason we have layabouts is because of FF/FG policies and auction politics. All the scumbag types, go back to their grandparents time. Irish Sugar in Thurles is one example here. Have to be careful not to identify these people. Grandpa loses his job in 1989 and no replacement industry ends up on JSA long term. His daughter can't get work but is housed by Thurles town council and has numerous children to maximise income because what else is there for her to do? Her children go into criminality and do the same thing and the circle continues.

You complain about having to subsidise these people when it was FF and FG who put these people in this situation in the first place. Irish sugar was profit making btw.

LeinsterDub

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Destroy the information. Get everyone to fingerprint in five years time or whenever the next election is.

You're meant to be making the process easier and cheaper. Not the opposite

McMurphy

Muahahaha wrote: »

What bookies were offering 14/1 and when did you lay it? Have never seen it any greater than 8/1 with Paddy Power

Paddy Power not offering me a cash out on any of my bets.

Also - they had the bets you could place capped, wouldn't let me put anything more than 26€ down.

gmisk

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, look at FF & FG combined totals, especially FF. They have a quota. They should get exchange transfers to pass SF.

With 3 seats? He had a decent shot.
He is a 21/22 year old student lol

Itssoeasy

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Simon Harris reelected by the people of Wicklow.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity!

Nobody bar the ceann Comhairle has been reelected yet.

Spanish Eyes

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for if you earn over 35k.


Sure as shooting their own support base won’t be hit.


Trust me on that.....

Was a tongue in cheek comment, as WWN link proves!!

statesaver

Did i hear Miriam brother is struggling

JohnnyFlash

McMurphy wrote: »

Continuing on a naivety trajectory, it would be extremely foolish to assume that SF would allow themselves to be mudguards for anyone in any hypothetical arrangement.

Extremely foolish indeed.

The people voted for them to go into power. Not to sit on the sidelines whinging. County hurling now.

LeinsterDub

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for if you earn over 35k.


Sure as shooting their own support base won’t be hit.


Trust me on that.....

I earn more than that and would happily pay more tax if the cost of the living was lowered

McMurphy

There's Gerry on the telly with an Antrim GAA top on him