GE Exit Poll 10 pm

Billcarson

devnull wrote: »

Martin isn't ruling out going in with Fine Gael or Sinn Fein.

At the same time he's talking about morals and principles being important.

Someone in Fianna Fail lying, there's a surprise.

Anyone who voted for FF, look what you have done now, they were and always have been the dishonest party.

They haven't change, they were and always will be frauds.

Thankfully people see through that nowadays .

strandroad

strandroad wrote: »

100% children seen in the childrens hospital will be unemployed.
Still no need to build such a large private practice into it at an enormous cost. Let private consultants build a private hospital next door, if they can afford it that is.

No space unfortunately, that land is earmarked for maternity hospital.

Loafing Oaf

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Martin wimping out on the No SF position. Chancer!

I think he's contemplating full coalition with FG; so if he restated the party line on SF but not FG, that might give the game away...

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I'll get over Harris & Mary Mitchell O'Connor being returned as long as that aloof toff receives the swinging axe. Those of us down the country won't lament his absence.

strandroad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No space unfortunately, that land is earmarked for maternity hospital.

So let them build wherever they want. Why is the state obliged to be their landlord?

devnull

Itssoeasy wrote: »

He wants to be Taoiseach and he'll do whatever it takes to not go down as the first FF leader not to be Taoiseach.

Indeed, putting the country first apparently.

FF haven't changed, still the same arrogance and party before country that almost destroyed this country. They simply cannot be trusted and the fact that the electorate falls for it as well makes me very sad.

He's basically a dishonest politician, lying out of his arse to get people to vote for him, he cannot be trusted to keep his promises and if he cannot do this, what else will he lie about in the time to come.

Dark days for this country, we have a charlatan soon the be in charge.

is_that_so

2 seats probable in Dublin MidWest for SF.

statesaver

Eoin does come across well i must say

strandroad

strandroad wrote: »

So let them build wherever they want. Why is the state obliged to be their landlord?

It's a revenue stream for the state. To fund all the unemployed people who get their healthcare for free.

Hercule Poirot

How does the surplus work? Where do they get it from? Is it random from the full vote?

strandroad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'll get over Harris & Mary Mitchell O'Connor being returned as long as that aloof toff receives the swinging axe. Those of those down the country won't lament his absence.

I agree, he was not only openly useless, he was actively hurting his portfolio.

strandroad

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's a revenue stream for the state. To fund all the unemployed people who get their healthcare for free.

Not when the hospital costs what it costs to build.

is_that_so

Hmm FG could get 2 in DL, good considering the events around it.

Muahahaha

Lol John Waters in Dun Laoighire with 925 votes. The Irish Freedom Party with 116.

strandroad

strandroad wrote: »

Not when the hospital costs what it costs to build.

Don't get me wrong. The building of the children's hospital is a massive scandal and probably deserves a tribunal. It was on the major failings of FG but unless Ireland goes to a NHS model. We will always have private parts of public hospitals. St James has three such wards (P1,P2 and P3)

Bobeagleburger

Shane Ross gone. Delighted. Came across as a spoofer

Spanish Eyes

Let FF and SF coalesce. See who is the Real Republican Party, oh and I suppose if it happens, SF will relish the portfolios of Health and Housing in order to fulfil their promises.

Anyway, it is what it is, and that's democracy for ya.

Boggles

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

How does the surplus work? Where do they get it from? Is it random from the full vote?

If a candidate receives more than the quota, their surplus ballot papers are transferred to the remaining candidates.

The surplus is transferred in proportion to how many second (or lower) preferences the other candidates received in the elected candidate’s vote. If the second preference candidate on any ballot is either already elected or has been eliminated, then the third preference is used, and so on.

If a candidate is elected at the first count, then all of their votes are used to calculate the proportion of surplus that will be given to each candidate.

For example:

Candidate A receives 6000 first preference votes at the first count. The quota is 5000. A is elected with a surplus of 1000 votes.

Out of A’s 6000 total votes, 30% gave their second preference to B, and 20% gave their second preference to C.

B receives 300 votes (30% of 1000) and C receives 200 votes (20% of 1000)

Where a candidate reaches the quota after the first count, only the ballot papers that brought them over the quota are examined (the votes that were transferred from the previous count).

If 2 or more candidates are elected at the same time, then the surplus of the candidate with the largest vote is distributed first.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/government_in_ireland/elections_and_referenda/voting/proportional_representation.html#l500e1

Hurrache

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Martin wimping out on the No SF position. Chancer!

I told yis they're starting to lower the ropes since early this afternoon!

Boggles

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

SF will relish the portfolios of Health and Housing in order to fulfil their promises.
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And Justice according to Mary Lou.

She all ready has the ministers picked.

The Rape of Lucretia

Deleted User wrote: »

I've no problem with them using hospitals, I don't see any SF been a stronger minister for health but I could see Eoin O Broin doing good work in housing.

Until we see a minister close a dozen hospitals we will know we dont have a strong minsiter for health. Until the people accept that closing a dozen hospital is required to improve the performance of the health service, no minister will try to do so.

Spanish Eyes

IF.... FF and SF join up, who do you think would be good in the Brexit role? I have no idea.

As long as SF don't get near Justice, I could live with them joingin forces. Can you imagine the Cabinet meetings, skin and hair flying!

But I think it will be FF and FG + a raggle taggle. Keep it steady.

Itssoeasy

Boggles wrote: »

And Justice according to Mary Lou.

She all ready has the ministers picked.

She was very fast to name names wasn't she ? Might want to stall the digger just a bit.

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Until we see a minister close a dozen hospitals we will know we dont have a strong minsiter for health. Until the people accept that closing a dozen hospital is required to improve the performance of the health service, no minister will try to do so.

Which hospitals would you propose closing? Why 12 specifically? That's 25% of all hospitals under the HSE. What are you going to do with all these employees?

C__MC

Micheal knows he has to take s f because he wont make it as taoiseach otherwise

Spoofer of the highest order.

thequarefellow

LeinsterDub wrote: »

That's most definitely not a no from Martin

Let the back-tracking begin

Spanish Eyes

lmimmfn wrote: »

We go again......

theballz wrote: »

Second general election

Boggles wrote: »

And Justice according to Mary Lou.

She all ready has the ministers picked.

Army Council would be thrilled for SF to get the Justice portfolio. That's what they REALLY want, forget about housing for now.

road_high

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

IF.... FF and SF join up, who do you think would be good in the Brexit role? I have no idea.

As long as SF don't get near Justice, I could live with them joingin forces. Can you imagine the Cabinet meetings, skin and hair flying!

But I think it will be FF and FG + a raggle taggle. Keep it steady.

Well. The people want sf. We can’t pick and choose what they are “let” near. There will be consequences but that’s democracy as they say

C__MC

Is f g out of the running folks as largest party

leahyl

That guy on the panel said the same thing as one of the posters here while ago - Michael Martin doesn’t want to go down as the only FF leader never to be Taoiseach, hence will be willing to speak to SF