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GE Exit Poll 10 pm

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    #2162
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    almostover wrote: »
    Pay them with what money? I'm all for improved services and pay for public servants. But I'd doubt the electorate will front up the extra taxation for it!

    I'll repeat the 3rd highest spending on health by GDP in the world. We can do better


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    #2163
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Yeh , more money from the magical money tree that SF think produces endless cash.

    Nope by savings and efficiency. You know those buzz words the right loves until it about improving the life of poor people


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    #2164
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Paul Donnelly, in the same constituency as the Taoiseach has almost 4000 surplus votes whilst leo himself has not got enough on the first count.

    You couldn't make this shît up.

    Joan Burton with 2000 votes, pompous idiot should have retired


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    #2165
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Nope by savings and efficiency. You know those buzz words the right loves until it about improving the life of poor people

    everyone in liberty hall just shuddered a bit and said 'not on my watch'


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    #2166
    hurler32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭hurler32


    The people are dead right .. Fine Gael for too long has only looked after the rich and Dublin ... Fianna Fáil have been confused as to what their party should be ... Sinn Fein are right , our country should be united and don’t let the rich get richer on the back of the ordinary people suffering !


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    #2167
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,138 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    How much would RTE save by ditching the Angelus? :)


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    #2168
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    I'll repeat the 3rd highest spending on health by GDP in the world. We can do better

    And I'll repeat.... How? GDP isn't a great metric by the way in relation to how much Irish people are taxed. You should be using GNI*


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    #2169
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    I'll repeat the 3rd highest spending on health by GDP in the world. We can do better
    And I will repeat no party here has the balls to take the hard decisions to reform the system because the public service unions will be out on strike and will turn the electorate against any party that tries


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    #2170
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    gmisk wrote: »
    How much would RTE save by ditching the Angelus? :)
    The things you feel you need to worry about!


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    #2171
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,800 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    McMurphy wrote: »
    Paul Donnelly, in the same constituency as the Taoiseach has almost 4000 surplus votes whilst leo himself has not got enough on the first count.

    You couldn't make this shît up.

    Same happened in MM and Howlins constituency. All knocked into second place.


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    #2172
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,453 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    hurler32 wrote: »
    The people are dead right .. Fine Gael for too long has only looked after the rich and Dublin ... Fianna Fáil have been confused as to what their party should be ... Sinn Fein are right , our country should be united and don’t let the rich get richer on the back of the ordinary people suffering !

    The only people who got more while FG were in power was the "most vulnerable"

    Ask Erica and Maggie.

    That's what FG done wrong, looked after wasters.


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    #2173
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,138 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The things you feel you need to worry about!
    I am injecting a bit of humour chill out
    I pay my tv license :)


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    #2174
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And I'll repeat.... How? GDP isn't a great metric by the way in relation to how much Irish people are taxed. You should be using GNI*

    How what? Dutch style Healthcare. Tell private consultants to looks after themselves. Every other European country does this


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    #2175
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    It is principled though. Not all parties can claim that.

    A pity they werent so principled when they vowed not to put another red cent into the banks. Remember that?


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    #2176
    almostover
    Registered Users Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭almostover


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Nope by savings and efficiency. You know those buzz words the right loves until it about improving the life of poor people

    Cool, so SF are going to take on the unions to get the necessary savings and efficiency in the health service?


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    #2177
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    How what? Dutch style Healthcare. Tell private consultants to looks after themselves. Every other European country does this

    Dutch style healthcare is a good system. But we would need to tax higher to facilitate it.


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    #2178
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    gmisk wrote: »
    How much would RTE save by ditching the Angelus? :)

    They'd only replace it with a ad for Dermot Bannon


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    #2179
    jam83
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭jam83


    Micheal Martin is going back on his word before the day is out. Open to talking to sinn fein now. He'd sell his family to become taoiseach.


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    #2180
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    hurler32 wrote: »
    The people are dead right .. Fine Gael for too long has only looked after the rich and Dublin ... Fianna Fáil have been confused as to what their party should be ... Sinn Fein are right , our country should be united and don’t let the rich get richer on the back of the ordinary people suffering !
    I presume you eventually want to stop suffering and become rich!


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    #2181
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    almostover wrote: »
    Cool, so SF are going to take on the unions to get the necessary savings and efficiency in the health service?

    This is rather annoying. I get taxed more than people in the private sector.


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    #2182
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    amadangomor wrote: »
    And I will repeat no party here has the balls to take the hard decisions to reform the system because the public service unions will be out on strike and will turn the electorate against any party that tries

    Every party has agreed to sláinte care. So I guess we'll find out soon


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    #2183
    retalivity
    Registered Users Posts: 14,389 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Gannon's going to need a lot of help from Mary Lou's surplus to get elected in Dublin Central


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    #2184
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Haha@Ross


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    #2185
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    And I'll repeat.... How? GDP isn't a great metric by the way in relation to how much Irish people are taxed. You should be using GNI*

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/state-among-highest-spenders-on-health-per-person-in-oecd-1.3547256%3fmode=amp

    Irish health spending per person is the 7th highest spending in the OECD. We spend plenty on health as it is. We need to spend it better.


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    #2186
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,302 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    People; "Sinn Fein are not the IRA."

    **SF wins lots of seats**

    SF starts to sing "Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man
    Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders
    Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away"... :pac:


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    #2187
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    The only people who got more while FG were in power was the "most vulnerable"

    Ask Erica and Maggie.

    That's what FG done wrong, looked after wasters.

    And what are SF going to do about them? Further soften the bed for the ***** is what - stop talking out of your hole


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    #2188
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,138 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    They'd only replace it with a ad for Dermot Bannon
    Dermot Bannon would just have someone starring at a pergola and a cold glass box extension


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    #2189
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    All the Shinners with the tricolour are cringey as ****. Embarassing. Like those losers celebrating brexit day.


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    #2190
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Dutch style healthcare is a good system. But we would need to tax higher to facilitate it.

    Probably but it certainly wouldn't be 2500 per year tax increase which is what health insurance costs me to avail of our ****e health system.


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    #2191
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    SF need to steady the ship now - the extremely hard bit starts trying to hold onto what they've won.
    They need to steer carefully.
    If they don't manage to arrange a govt with any party then FF/FG or whoever can will have had the kick up their lazy holes/massive warning to turn their full attention to the housing crisis and the working people struggling with an out of control cost of living and a rental market that takes a socially damaging amount of their paychecks each month.


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