GE Exit Poll 10 pm

gmisk

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me the last TD who was in government who was popular and wasn't hated by the public?

Is it a thankless job and poisoned chalice?

Plenty are liked Catherine Murphy springs to mind, or Pearse Doherty. Plenty more.

The money isn't exactly thankless either

Carol Nolan in Laois Offaly looks like she has the votes to beat Marcella Corcoran Kennedy and was SF before they selected another candidate. It looks like they had enough votes to bring two candidates in.

smelly sock

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me the last TD who was in government who was popular and wasn't hated by the public?

Is it a thankless job and poisoned chalice?

Catherine Murphy soc dems

shesty

Idbatterim wrote: »

I know a lot of politics is strategy and takimgbthe long term view for selfish gain. But this country cannot afford ffg again. I hope sf step up to the plate !

They can't.
They will seriously struggle to fulfil campaign promises.And also then not get slaughtered at the next election.

LeinsterDub

thequarefellow wrote: »

It's a pity McHugh didn't get elected. She is more valuable to the Green party then Ryan I think

She's too radical I think. She'd cause more harm than good. I like Catherine Martin

salmocab

shesty wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but can they do that without SF being involved?Just by majority?it looks like a fine enough line at the moment.

Yes any group that puts a majority together becomes the government. They don’t need talk to anyone they choose not to.

Eric Cartman

seannash wrote: »

Did anyone mention Leo didnt get in after the second count

and next out is an SD candidate who wont transfer well, then mcmanus for aontu who would be transfer friendly to pro-life jack chambers, could see FF being elected in dublin west before leo too.

LeinsterDub

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

It’s because of the greens the air is toxic due to every single car in the country being diesel

They were working off the best advice at the time in fairness

gmisk

LeinsterDub wrote: »

She's too radical I think. She'd cause more harm than good. I like Catherine Martin

Catherine Martin far more likeable than Eamon Ryan imo

The Rape of Lucretia

shesty wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but can they do that without SF being involved?Just by majority?it looks like a fine enough line at the moment.

The Greens are there for the asking to add some comfort.

jos28

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Can you tell me more? I don't do TV and just switched off the radio coverage for a wee breakeen from it all.

He was interviewed at the count centre and emphatically ruled out coalition with SF. He stated that told his constituents that he would not go into government with SF and that he was sticking by that. Unlike his leader - there could be some heated discussions at FF HQ

Itssoeasy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Have you seen her comments and journal column, has more in common with PbP or stalin than the people of mayo.

Yeah wanted to change the country but changing to community based forms. Mad stuff altogether in fairness.

threeball

statesaver wrote: »

Fionnan Sheahan said earlier that SF left about 6 seats behind them because they did not field 2 candidates in some constituencies.

This time round. No guarantee it happens again. I'm willing to bet it doesn't. That fact you see unknown SF politicians on the verge of election in Galway east leads me to believe it's a complete anomaly. People voted SF regardless of who was the representative.

namloc1980

Predicting SF will get 37/38 seats. Crazy

Eric Cartman

smelly sock wrote: »

Catherine Murphy soc dems

theres a lot of negative voices on her on the ground in leixlip I can assure you

RoryMac

Mr.S wrote: »

Why did SF run so many single candidates with no running mates? Seems like such a wasted opportunity with all these transfer votes from the first preference winners.

Because when the election was called nobody even Sinn Fein expected these results, take Dublin West for example where Paul Donnelly won a seat on the first count beating Leo. He said this morning that when the election was called he expected to be in a dog fight for the 4th seat

smelly sock

Eric Cartman wrote: »

theres a lot of negative voices on her on the ground in leixlip I can assure you

I think youre wrong.

The Rape of Lucretia

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The Greens are there for the asking to add some comfort.

Even the Labour part could be well advised to try and get in. They are going no where at the moment. Raising their profile and showing they still exist, even with just a handful of MPs could give them a boost and something to work on. Anything is worth a try for them at this stage.

Itssoeasy

threeball wrote: »

This time round. No guarantee it happens again. I'm willing to bet it doesn't. That fact you see unknown SF politicians on the verge of election in Galway east leads me to believe it's a complete anomaly. People voted SF regardless of who was the representative.

Has it ever happened that politicians who lose their seats in a local election top the polls in such numbers ?

Big Ears

lmimmfn wrote: »

I agree with this but FFG promising the world for this election, and had all the opportunity to deliver same in the past few years.
FG - homeless etc. and recent RIC and swingate
FF - destroyed the country

At this stage I'm thinking all the parties are so out of touch.

The failings of FF and FG were obvious.
But many of those issues were there at the last election too and the main thing it did was give independents more power.

The high polling of Sinn Fein in the last few weeks definitely indicated their competitive candidates were going to pick up seats.
But you would have expected independents to pick up seats over failed local election candidates, if previous elections were anything to guage by.

That's the big difference of this election.
I don't think (Since I became eligible to vote in 2007 anyway) we've ever seen such an example of the party, rather than the candidate themself being of prime importance.
That in itself could change Irish politics dramatically in years to come.

blackcard

gmisk wrote: »

Plenty are liked Catherine Murphy springs to mind, or Pearse Doherty. Plenty more.

The money isn't exactly thankless either

Neither of those have been in government.

Muahahaha

gmisk wrote: »

Lucinda Creighton...blast from the past! Wasn't she big pals with Leo at one stage?

More than just pals I heard when both were in Young FG in Trinity. They still socialise together, she has pics with him out in Dublin on her Instagram

LeinsterDub

blackcard wrote: »

Neither of those have been in government.

Was she not in government with Labour? Shortall is well liked too

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

She left them a while back as well?

Quit as leader in 2016. Not sure if she left them altogether.

lmimmfn

Big Ears wrote: »

The failings of FF and FG were obvious.
But many of those issues were there at the last election too and the main thing it did was give independents more power.

The high polling of Sinn Fein in the last few weeks definitely indicated their competitive candidates were going to pick up seats.
But you would have expected independents to pick up seats over failed local election candidates, if previous elections were anything to guage by.

That's the big difference of this election.
I don't think (Since I became eligible to vote in 2007 anyway) we've ever seen such an example of the party, rather than the candidate themself being of prime importance.
That in itself could change Irish politics dramatically in years to come.

Agreed but my own feeling is the electorate are burnt out by independents, Ross( where to start with him) , Haely Rae's and focus on local politics.
I can see a lot of SF transfers going to independents/Green though.

Spanish Eyes

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Even the Labour part could be well advised to try and get in. They are going no where at the moment. Raising their profile and showing they still exist, even with just a handful of MPs could give them a boost and something to work on. Anything is worth a try for them at this stage.

Ahem TDs. Away with you ya West Brit :P

smelly sock

threeball wrote: »

This time round. No guarantee it happens again. I'm willing to bet it doesn't. That fact you see unknown SF politicians on the verge of election in Galway east leads me to believe it's a complete anomaly. People voted SF regardless of who was the representative.

People want change. And if we dont get it this time and are forced to vote again, like lisbon or nice, i think most will stick to their guns this time around.

listermint

Eric Cartman wrote: »

theres a lot of negative voices on her on the ground in leixlip I can assure you

I'd be hard pressed to listen you your opinion on it considering your love in for Casey. Folks your listening to would be in the absolute minority. Probably all mad for casey too

blackcard

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Was she not in government with Labour? Shortall is well liked too

No. Shortfall keeps changing parties.

lmimmfn

Lowry FFS, I just can't........