GE Exit Poll 10 pm

drunkmonkey

ShaneU wrote: »

Michael Martin 1/5 to be back as Taoiseach

He had a poor show.

The Rape of Lucretia

Sir Oxman wrote: »

UCD seat projection
FF 45
SF 37
FG 36
L 6
SPBP 5
G 10
SD 5
Ind 16

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Itssoeasy

I understand that politics is a rough business and all that and you can agree or disagree with a political party or not. The amount of people on social media who are taking pleasure in a TD losing their seat is unfortunate. I mean the person might be the biggest ****ehawk walking gods green earth but still.

Idbatterim

With all this election coverage I can’t stand the sight of many mostly fg TDS. Please god another election and let them lose more seats. Get rid of varadkar too

Itssoeasy

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Will the greens get 10 seats ? Seems a bit high.

road_high

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Don’t think so. FG look headed for opposition and content with that. They don’t have a mandate to govern- that’s the winning parties today responsibility now

The Rape of Lucretia

Liking that jesters hat behind the Kerry podium. Strong message about their position as national poltical jokers in it.

Sir Oxman

road_high wrote: »

SF have a mandate to govern - while I’m sure they’d just love to play out yet another round of hurling on the ditch, they’re potentially the lead party and given a big mandate to implement that manifesto they’re elected to deliver.
While I’m sure they love another election after opposing everything and everyone else the time has now come to govern. It’s supposed to be about the people and not how the SF can grow further.

i never said anything different.
24.7% of voters want SF in govt, that is a fact.
Finding partners is the rather difficult part when the other main players are flat out refusing to supply the numbers.

My views on what's good or bad for SF the party was an addendum, my own thoughts.

almostover

perrito caliente wrote: »

Dole.

If that's the case those TDs not re-elected will vote Sinn Fein next time out too!!! United ireland here were come!!!

tikkahunter

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Are you claiming 25 % of the people in this country are students?

No but that is where the social media push came from , they flooded instagram, facebook etc with "vote for change" ask them what change and they cant give you a straight answer.

RMAOK

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Still can't see that happening - Confidence and supply in reverse. Doubt Leo will step down from taoiseach to tanaiste just to stop Sinn féin getting into government.

amadangomor

amadangomor wrote: »

Gerry and the army council are the electoral strategists

Is he subject to internment enforced by SF enforcers so that he can't get within earshot of an open microphone and do damage for the next few days?

Loafing Oaf

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Are you satisfied Martin isn't even considering the SF option?

FrancieBrady

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Political suicide down the road, and FG know it.

perrito caliente

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I want more money in my pocket. It's why I didn't vote Sinn Fein and don't want them in Government.

It may astonish you, and the fellah that quoted Margaret Thatcher up the thread, but not everyone in Ireland votes according to how many pennies they can squander away at the expense of other people. You and all the other fools that vote for FF & FG are dinosaurs who are on the way out.

And yes, before you ask, so very predictably, I do work.

ygolometsipe

Sir Oxman wrote: »

UCD seat projection
FF 45
SF 37
FG 36
L 6
SPBP 5
G 10
SD 5
Ind 16

SF+L+SPBP+G+SD+Ind


1 seat short of a government.

road_high

Idbatterim wrote: »

With all this election coverage I can’t stand the sight of many mostly fg TDS. Please god another election and let them lose more seats. Get rid of varadkar too

That’s very immature. Lots of TDs I can’t stand but I have to accept that they have a democratic mandate from others. We just had an election yesterday. Why would we need another?

eeepaulo

Sir Oxman wrote: »

UCD seat projection
FF 45
SF 37
FG 36
L 6
SPBP 5
G 10
SD 5
Ind 16

If SF beat FG seat count they get to be lead opposition no matter what. They could also go into coalition with FF and know they could demand a lot and FF know if there is another election SF improve by 5-10? TDs.

The Rape of Lucretia

road_high wrote: »

Don’t think so. FG look headed for opposition and content with that. They don’t have a mandate to govern- that’s the winning parties today responsibility now

All elected TD have a mandate to govern. Thats what their constituencies decided. After that, it which political grouping can agree and form a government. You cant exclude them or read into the result a conclusion that isnt there just becuase you would not like them to be involved.

fritzelly

jos28 wrote: »

My understanding is that ALL ballot papers are examined again.

For example:

Candidate A receives 6000 first preference votes at the first count. The quota is 5000. A is elected with a surplus of 1000 votes.

Out of A’s 6000 total votes, 30% gave their second preference to B, and 20% gave their second preference to C.

B receives 300 votes (30% of 1000) and C receives 200 votes (20% of 1000) etc

Thanks - what I thought but wasn't entirely sure.

Sir Oxman

road_high wrote: »

Don’t think so. FG look headed for opposition and content with that. They don’t have a mandate to govern- that’s the winning parties today responsibility now

BTW, that's FF who will have the largest amount of seats.

Millionaire only not

tikkahunter wrote: »

Be interesting to see when all these students do qualify into good jobs how they will feel being taxed to the hilt with SF.

If the students had real brains they would see that , but in there cotton bud , I phone little world everything should walk into them !

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Is he subject to internment enforced by SF enforcers so that he can't get within earshot of an open microphone and do damage for the next few days?

He's been on RTE telly and radio. World hasn't imploded or ended.

efanton

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I understand that politics is a rough business and all that and you can agree or disagree with a political party or not. The amount of people on social media who are taking pleasure in a TD losing their seat is unfortunate. I mean the person might be the biggest ****ehawk walking gods green earth but still.

No sympathy at all for most of them

They have had 4 years to do a job. They had all that time to either put pressure on their party to change policy, had the opportunity actually show their constituency that they are working for them and will walk away with a not insubstantial TD pension.

Do we get a pension or golden handshake for getting sacked from a job?

threeball

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Which basically says FF+FG+a little un.
Greens preferably.

I am happy with that.

Greens should stay out. The next election could be a big one for them. 5 more years of next to no climate measures and possibly as SF vote imploding.

Sir Oxman

eeepaulo wrote: »

If SF beat FG seat count they get to be lead opposition no matter what. They could also go into coalition with FF and know they could demand a lot and FF know if there is another election SF improve by 5-10? TDs.

And there will be no junior party this time either.

blackcard

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I want more money in my pocket. It's why I didn't vote Sinn Fein and don't want them in Government.

I would prefer SF to go into government now as a junior partner rather than as a senior partner ina few years. SF have been more extravagant in their promises, their plans are unsustainable and people will see them for what they are.

jos28

Millionaire only not wrote: »

But how do they decide which 2000 votes they use if they got 10000 in first count thereby elected and the said 2000 to be distributed!
For example say 8000 was the quota and 6000 of them had a second preference ?

I always thought that they go through every paper and award a percentage
accordingly. However, LeinsterDub points out that Irish electoral law provides, in effect, for a random selection of papers to pass to continuing
candidates. Further preferences on these papers may affect the final outcome of the election


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...=1581284240821

almostover

Higgins5473 wrote: »

It’s looking quite that they will be in some capacity so it’s probably time to discuss why they would be ‘disastrous’ maybe with some context given versus FF/FG.

I will honestly tip my hat to you if you can come up with anything other than IRA terrorism.

Well the sight of a convicted bomb-maker who was linked to making bombs that killed innocent men, women and children in the mainland UK signing rebels songs at an election centre today seems to be the start of the disaster.

STB.

namloc1980 wrote: »

FF gave a commitment not to have anything to do with FG.

Well if the alternative is giving SF a second election, they'll soon change their tune.