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GE Exit Poll 10 pm

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    #2912
    Tea Shock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


    Dont forget.... Nobody is going to go into government unless they can form 85....maybe 87 seats. Even with the UCD projections, if they're borne out, would be FF/SF coalition of only 82. That wouldn't be a stable government with any chance of lasting 4-5 years


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    #2913
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Students are to blame :pac:

    We have reached peak stupidity.


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    #2914
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Ush1 wrote: »
    DCC is controlled by Sinn Fein councillors. You're not making any sense.

    Not anymore. It's FF - SocDems - Green


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    #2915
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    That's a clear majority though
    Adding another party would complicate things;)

    A five or 10 seat majority is more than ample. 3 would be fine.


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    #2916
    ygolometsipe
    Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Millionaire only not wrote: »
    The mary cash crowd made sure they got up to vote !
    The irony of it all the money fg gave this crowd with last few years only for them to give them the two fingers!
    They might think twice the next time they favor them over the working person!


    I don't follow, whats the mary cash crowd.


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    #2917
    ShaneU
    Registered Users Posts: 14,852 ✭✭✭✭ShaneU


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    He was never in

    Sorry, brain fart :D


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    #2918
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    A 6 vote majority isn't a clear majority. It's a recipe for the government collapsing
    You are joking.
    A two party govt wouldn't collapse unless one of the parties fully got pissed off and en masse withdrew.


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    #2919
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,418 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Indeed. Its only a question of the choreography now to see how FF and FG arrange things.
    I think it is good for the country.

    Really don’t think so. SF are the largest party today. Them not governing would be ridiculous


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    #2920
    Tea Shock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


    1/5 for Martin to be Taoiseach are actualy longer odds than 3 weeks ago when he was 1/8 at one stage


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    #2921
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    perrito caliente wrote: »
    Be honest, how many minutes a day do you waste waffling about "the snowflake generation" to bored family and colleagues? Such tripe.

    Why u seriously think student really thought out what they were voting for !
    We have shinner nearly elected here with 5 children no education , no experience of politics, sued the local county council over her accommodation wasn’t good enough!
    Great country


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    #2922
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Mary Mitchell O'Connor has slipped out of the last seat by 20 votes. Would love to see her out.


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    #2923
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    perrito caliente wrote: »
    It may astonish you, and the fellah that quoted Margaret Thatcher up the thread, but not everyone in Ireland votes according to how many pennies they can squander away at the expense of other people. You and all the other fools that vote for FF & FG are dinosaurs who are on the way out.

    And yes, before you ask, so very predictably, I do work.

    Sinn Fein's economic policies are the worst type of populist clap trap imaginable. Bertie, Charlie Mc Creevy etc back in the early 2000s would be proud


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    #2924
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 33,175 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Ush1 wrote: »
    DCC is controlled by Sinn Fein councillors. You're not making any sense.
    No it isn't they have 8 out of 63 seats and are in council opposition


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    #2925
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    You are joking.
    A two party govt wouldn't collapse unless one of the parties fully got pissed off and en masse withdrew.

    You're aware of the concept of a vote of confidence right? All you need is a few defectors


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    #2926
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    A five or 10 seat majority is more than ample. 3 would be fine.
    It depends how disciplined they are and what the chances of by elections are during a term especially around the Euros.


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    #2927
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    road_high wrote: »
    Really don’t think so. SF are the largest party today. Them not governing would be ridiculous

    Why ? Its up to the largest grouping of elected TDs that can propose a Taoiseach to govern. Do you not agree with the democratic process as defined in the constitution ?


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    #2928
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    You're aware of the concept of a vote of confidence right? All you need is a few defectors
    Yes, I am aware.
    There is always someone to shore it up if it came to it.
    It's not difficult to govern in a country this size with a maj of 5 or 6


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    #2929
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,770 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Emmet "parks and wildlife" Stagg has been eliminated.


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    #2930
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,418 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Sinn Fein's economic policies are the worst type of populist clap trap imaginable. Bertie, Charlie Mc Creevy etc back in the early 2000s would be proud

    Yes but the people have lapped it up. They knew what they were voting for


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    #2931
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 40,057 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Oh to be a fly on the wall here:

    EQXQJGNXsAEDhD3?format=jpg&name=medium

    Is that Michael martins wife ?


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    #2932
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,418 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Why ? Its up to the largest grouping of elected TDs that can propose a Taoiseach to govern. Do you not agree with the democratic process as defined in the constitution ?

    Of course but as the largest grouping they would be In the strongest position to nominate


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    #2933
    Higgins5473
    Registered Users Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Sinn Fein's economic policies are the worst type of populist clap trap imaginable. Bertie, Charlie Mc Creevy etc back in the early 2000s would be proud

    List even 3 of these policies with figures

    *try doing this without frantically googling as an extra challenge


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    #2934
    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Yes, I am aware.
    There is always someone to shore it up if it came to it.
    It's not difficult to govern in a country this size with a maj of 5 or 6

    So a pork barrel government. Great!


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    #2935
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Is it possible that a second election could be needed and if so, could SF run more candidates?

    I'd imagine you'd have a higher turn out in a second election after this shock.


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    #2936
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    List even 3 of these policies with figures
    The two biggest ones - USC abolition €1.2bn, LPT abolition €450m and that's tax revenue foregone.


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    #2937
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes but the people have lapped it up. They knew what they were voting for

    I would love to eat my words and see them fix the problems of the country. Can't see it though. Think the long term winner of the 3 parties will be the one who stays out of government this time.


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    #2938
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    List even 3 of these policies with figures

    100,000 social houses - uncosted
    electric car charging public infrastructure - uncosted
    keeping the retirement age at 65 - uncosted
    reducing the tax burden on low earners with regard usc - uncosted.


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    #2939
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,827 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    You're aware of the concept of a vote of confidence right? All you need is a few defectors
    Defectors in SF would be treated like ISIS treats an Apostate so you don't need to worry about that side of the coalition falling out of line.


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    #2940
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,313 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    What's going on in Cavan-Monaghan? 13 hours in and not even a first count yet!


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    #2941
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes but the people have lapped it up. They knew what they were voting for

    But do they really know !


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