What have we come to

James Brown

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

Have you been around people recently? They are dumb as ****.


Most of them will push on a door that is clearly labelled pull.

I know they're no...
Eoghan Murphy record breaking crises
Simon Harris record breaking crisis
Pascal Donohue NCH
James Reilly Got clinics
Michael Noonan Sitserv deal
Enda Kenny man with two pints
Dara Murphy man with two jobs
Maria bailey swinger
Alan farrell some neck
Leo Varadkar....socks? Snidey remarks?

But still.....

Heart Break Kid wrote: »

If you have money and you voted for SF, you probably didn’t read their manifesto, your money is there money.

Don't you mean ours?

endacl

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The same any other party would.
You know why they are dissident is because they dont agree or support SF or in the most part the GFA?

Mary Lou was a bit evasive when the question of the special criminal court was put to her.

Strumms

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The same any other party would.
You know why they are dissident is because they dont agree or support SF or in the most part the GFA?

Erm, I was talking about criminal dissidents rather than just individuals with a differing political view...

jimmycrackcorm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Might be the kick up the hole FF, FG and all their business cronies need to actually run the country properly with all the resources they have.

The are losing their grip on power.

The country has just voted to replace that with the Armagh smuggling mafia.

Strumms

It’s a real pity that Labour are in such disarray, a useless leader and faceless individuals in the background for the most part... people are viewing SF as a sort of nationalist, left wing, socialist party... the reality is different, although I hope we don’t get to experience this reality.

Pac1Man

Jaysus, the shear amount of you that have an interest in politics is crazy. Yee mad bastards!

ILoveYourVibes

billyhead wrote: »

Sinn Fein topping the polls in many constituencies. I believe in democracy but too vote this crowd in as your number 1

They are the only leftest party big enough to have a chance of winning. The rest of them kept splitting over silly ****. They couldn't be disciplined enough to last long term.

I wouldn't vote SF. I have huge moral issues with them. But i accept people voted for them.

We have to now figure out FAST how the country is to be led. Brexit looms.

Oh and champion human rights. We can be critical of SF in power.

We come to the rescue with love.

There is no point having a meltdown that solved nothing.

Lets hope SF know we have an eye on them ...and they better not go into coalition with FF .....and we expect them to truly put violence behind them....and hope they help people.

ILoveYourVibes

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

The country has just voted to replace that with the Armagh smuggling mafia.

Look its not in SF interests to let the 'smuggling mafia' get big in a country they are trying to govern.

I agree with you its not ideal. But if you look for the best in people and feed THAT. You often end up with better people.

Starve the mafia out of sf feed the passion they have for what they believe in.


I have heard them talk. Its clear they have feeling behind what they say. Feed that. Smother the dark in them.

S. Goodspeed

A lot of us have been looking smuggly at the US and UK over the last few years assuming the waves of extremist populist bs that hit them could never happen here, well we were very wrong...

Looking forward to SF negotiating with unions in the health service, miraculously increasing spending despite cutting taxes and turning what was up to this point one of the most stable and attractive countries to do business into a sh*t show like our neighbours

joseywhales

Well we have ironically set unification back by voting sinn fein. The unionist and conservative nationalists won't be enticed by a sinn fein government south of the border

ILoveYourVibes

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

A lot of us have been looking smuggly at the US and UK over the last few years assuming the waves of extremist populist bs that hit them could never happen here, well we were very wrong...

Looking forward to SF negotiating with unions in the health service, miraculously increasing spending despite cutting taxes and turning what was up to this point one of the most stable and attractive countries to do business into a sh*t show like our neighbours

It hasn't. We aren't reacting like headless chickens attacking each other.

We are talking. Its different. The air is different.

Fann Linn

joseywhales wrote: »

Well we have ironically set unification back by voting sinn fein. The unionist and conservative nationalists won't be enticed by a sinn fein government south of the border

A vote will decide that also.

BanditLuke

S. Goodspeed wrote: »

A lot of us have been looking smuggly at the US and UK over the last few years assuming the waves of extremist populist bs that hit them could never happen here, well we were very wrong...

Looking forward to SF negotiating with unions in the health service, miraculously increasing spending despite cutting taxes and turning what was up to this point one of the most stable and attractive countries to do business into a sh*t show like our neighbours

So you'd like to see SF fail and the hense the country fail?

BanditLuke

perrito caliente wrote: »

Just goes to show how civic minded and noble in spirit all the Fianna Fail/Fianna Gail voters are when their go-to insult is to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being secretly unemployed. Absolutely vile.

Gas thing the umemployment rate is what 4% and yet 24% of voters gave SF their number 1. :pac: and they accuse the shinners of bad maths and economics

um7y1h83ge06nx

I guess if you're not a SF supporter who do you blame for the large SF vote?

Imo:

FF and FG for misreading the public mood as well as just plain actions that were within their control. The RIC thing was ridiculous for example.

Labour for completely imploding over the past few years. At least they would provide a left option without scaring people with their baggage like SF.

The media for being so negative about the state of the country the past few years. Yes the country has its problems but it has to be better than 10 years ago. For instance I remember working in the Raheen Industrial estate in Limerick when Dell shut down their manufacturing. Seeing the closure of supplier companies and the clear drop off in traffic and people was depressing.

Since the global recession, people have become hysterical in elections. I thought the US were crazy voting Trump. I thought the UK were even crazier voting brexit, even though it was only 51%. Now we’ve done the same and voted anarchy.
If SF were so popular, the polls and local elections would have indicated it.

It was a last minute bandwagon type surge.
Anything but FF/FG vote.

We need people to be more reasonable about voting. And have realistic expectations.
FF and the Greens set this country back 20 years. It took only 9 to bounce back.

um7y1h83ge06nx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Since the global recession, people have become hysterical in elections. I thought the US were crazy voting Trump. I thought the UK were even crazier voting brexit, even though it was only 51%. Now we’ve done the same and voted anarchy.
If SF were so popular, the polls and local elections would have indicated it.

It was a last minute bandwagon type surge.
Anything but FF/FG vote.

We need people to be more reasonable about voting. And have realistic expectations.
FF and the Greens set this country back 20 years. It took only 9 to bounce back.

Very true. I think people spent more time thinking and analysing why they dislike FF and FG than they spent time examining the policies of SF.

But now SF become part of the establishment, and if they get into power they will be under pressure more than any other party in recent times to deliver on their manifesto.

People have "change", but change can be both for the better or the worse.

FTA69

Scoondal wrote: »

Today, I am glad that my mother has dementia. She hated Sinn Fein even more than me.
I will stand against terrorism as a policy that achieves results. They can threaten me, kneecap me and still from my wheelchair I will oppose them until the day they kill me. Open the can of worms...

Imagine being so bitter you’re happy your mother has a debilitating condition. Absolute hysteria. Nobody is coming around to kneecap you mate. Calm down and have a cup of tea.

ThunbergsAreGo

Hope Tasteless Flick wrote: »

I guess if you're not a SF supporter who do you blame for the large SF vote?

Imo:

FF and FG for misreading the public mood as well as just plain actions that were within their control. The RIC thing was ridiculous for example.

Labour for completely imploding over the past few years. At least they would provide a left option without scaring people with their baggage like SF.

The media for being so negative about the state of the country the past few years. Yes the country has its problems but it has to be better than 10 years ago. For instance I remember working in the Raheen Industrial estate in Limerick when Dell shut down their manufacturing. Seeing the closure of supplier companies and the clear drop off in traffic and people was depressing.

Blame is the wrong word, but media is the prime reason. You would swear we were living in a third world country. For this reason, change was the big theme.

Remember Labour got similar seats only 9 years ago. The people have spoken, and they don't really appear clear what they want

Ferm001

Really hope Ivan has Eoghan Harris back on this afternoon, could be some very entertaining radio

Blaze420

A lot of what I’ve heard over the weekend is that people voted for SF purely to get back at FF/FG, and a lot of these simply don’t seem to care what SF has on the table.

Voting SF as a way to “get back” at FF/FG without fully understanding what you were voting for is like getting back at the school bully by punching yourself in the face.

Hope Tasteless Flick

Hope Tasteless Flick wrote: »

I guess if you're not a SF supporter who do you blame for the large SF vote?.........

I'd not blame anyone.

Folk are quick to forget that a decade ago once you finished education (2nd or 3rd level) emigrating was often something that had to be considered. There were practically no apprenticeship options and grad jobs were thing on the ground.

Rents were on the floor, loads of folk couldn't pay their mortgage and even if they moved home to Mum & Dad and rented out their house they were still short hundreds a month.

A huge amount of the population were under serious financial pressure.

After FG being in government things are most definitely far from perfect but they are no doubt better.

Blaze420 wrote: »

A lot of what I’ve heard over the weekend is that people voted for SF purely to get back at FF/FG, and a lot of these simply don’t seem to care what SF has on the table.

Voting SF as a way to “get back” at FF/FG without fully understanding what you were voting for is like getting back at the school bully by punching yourself in the face.

Indeed, huge parallels with the Brexit vote, laughable really. The ole environment got forgotten about quickly also when it came to the vote. Thankfully, Greens are total fncktards.

jester77

Wow, Irish politics is a right mess now.
Looking like FF will return to power, either with FG or SF. Hard to believe that.

road_high

FTA69 wrote: »

Imagine being so bitter you’re happy your mother has a debilitating condition. Absolute hysteria. Nobody is coming around to kneecap you mate. Calm down and have a cup of tea.

You clearly have had very little dealings with SF “people “ then. You're lucky to live in such a benign utopia

Eric Cartman

jester77 wrote: »

Wow, Irish politics is a right mess now.
Looking like FF will return to power, either with FG or SF. Hard to believe that.

Mad to think that so many people voted SF to get away from either ff or fg that now basically a full blown FF FG coalition is the only path to safe and stable government

FTA69

road_high wrote: »

You clearly have had very little dealings with SF “people “ then. You're lucky to live in such a benign utopia

I was a member of SF for five years, two of my mates have been elected as TDs and while I left the party ages ago and don’t think they’ll be a silver bullet for Irish problems - they’re a social democratic party that generally consists of ordinary working people.

What you and others are doing is engaging in a load of hysterical scaremongering, the type of which has clearly backfired in case you didn’t notice.

road_high

Hope Tasteless Flick wrote: »

I guess if you're not a SF supporter who do you blame for the large SF vote?

Imo:

FF and FG for misreading the public mood as well as just plain actions that were within their control. The RIC thing was ridiculous for example.

Labour for completely imploding over the past few years. At least they would provide a left option without scaring people with their baggage like SF.

The media for being so negative about the state of the country the past few years. Yes the country has its problems but it has to be better than 10 years ago. For instance I remember working in the Raheen Industrial estate in Limerick when Dell shut down their manufacturing. Seeing the closure of supplier companies and the clear drop off in traffic and people was depressing.

FG had 9 years of government, most of it hugely unpopular. There was a tidal wave of “let’s change” - it was almost impossible to go up against that prevailing public mood. Simple really, government parties are never popular

FTA69

FTA69 wrote: »

I was a member of SF for five years, two of my mates have been elected as TDs and while I left the party ages ago and don’t think they’ll be a silver bullet for Irish problems - they’re a social democratic party that generally consists of ordinary working people.

What you and others are doing is engaging in a load of hysterical scaremongering, the type of which has clearly backfired in case you didn’t notice.

Who do you reckon Mary Lou is influenced by?
Why can't she back the Special Criminal Court?

Would your two mates actually answer either question 100% honestly?
Will you answer?

road_high

FTA69 wrote: »

I was a member of SF for five years, two of my mates have been elected as TDs and while I left the party ages ago and don’t think they’ll be a silver bullet for Irish problems - they’re a social democratic party that generally consists of ordinary working people.

What you and others are doing is engaging in a load of hysterical scaremongering, the type of which has clearly backfired in case you didn’t notice.

No sorry, just our personal experience. Thankfully we still have free speech (for now) and will continue to express my experiences. These people were the most threatening vicious scum we ever encountered. If people don’t chose to listen then there’s nothing more one can do but it’ll be their funeral putting them near the country’s democratic structures

road_high

Augeo wrote: »

Who do you reckon Mary Lou is influenced by?
Why can't she back the Special Criminal Court?

Would your two mates actually answer either question 100% honestly?
Will you answer?

Not even Mary lou would back the SCC when asked. Deeply disturbing but a representative view