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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,574 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Morgans wrote: »
    FG, Coveney, has said that they oppose a confidence and Supply arrangement.

    Varadkar hasn't ruled it out definitively. If FF approach them with a serious offer I don't think it would be tenable for FG to turn it down. How could they face the electorate after effectively 'forcing' a FF/SF coalition?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Varadkar hasn't ruled it out definitively. If FF approach them with a serious offer I don't think it would be tenable for FG to turn it down. How could they face the electorate after effectively 'forcing' a FF/SF coalition?

    And Coveney in ruling out a Confidence and Supply arrangement isnt ruling out a coalition - maybe with the Greens.

    I thought Leo looked somewhat relieved after the result. Maybe its electioneering that's wearing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Michael McGrath seems like a decent sort. They’re a little bit short of top-table talent to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,344 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Michael McGrath seems like a decent sort. They’re a little bit short of top-table talent to be honest.

    He might also choose to balance the gender inequality of the party by bringing a few MILFs onboard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    mojesius wrote: »
    He might also choose to balance the gender inequality of the party by bringing a few MILFs onboard.


    Harmless stuff, and not worthy of much comment. I'd suggest that a lot of the punters around here have the flute nearly detached from themselves watching porn.



    If that's the worst mud that can be thrown at him then he will be alright.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 355 ✭✭Moghead


    Michael McGrath seems like a decent sort. They’re a little bit short of top-table talent to be honest.

    I think he'd be a terrible choice for leader, guy has zero charisma. Same with O'Cuiv.

    I agreed with the previous posters who said there is a serious lack of talent in FF at the moment, look at that Jack Chambers guy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Moghead wrote: »
    I think he'd be a terrible choice for leader, guy has zero charisma. Same with O'Cuiv.

    I agreed with the previous posters who said there is a serious lack of talent in FF at the moment, look at that Jack Chambers guy.


    O'Cuiv isn't a runner. I'm from his neck of the woods originally. He's a clever guy, a passionate FF'r, and a decent skin, but he's no leader of FF.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,195 ✭✭✭jos28


    I'm no fan of MM but if he's plays it clever he could benefit greatly from the current 'mess'.
    Stick to the party line and not entertain SF.
    Negotiate with Leo and co to join FF for the good of the country - Leo owes him one anyway.
    Get the GP/SDs to join in with MM as Taoiseach
    His party members will have cabinet positions instead of heading into the wilderness - Job Done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,996 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    I think finan a fail are in big trouble long term, I was aT an Ard fheis a few years back and the age profile was shocking, I was the youngest there in my early 30s. I think new blood was needed back then as leader as mm is seen as one of the old boys. I was talking to a few old fellas at the time and they were stubborn that MM was the man for the job, they just couldn't see any change from the old guard. This is the reason sinn feinn are getting good votes now as they have worked the colleges the last 10 years. Personally I'd prefer if they had a different profile as a leader (lisa chambers but she cant now)or a strong leader possibly dara callery. I don't know much of him but I saw him briefly in the irish and English debates and he seemed competent. Michael Mcgrath I find good but maybe not leadership material. I have a dealing ff will drop more seats in the next elections unless drastic changes..


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Might as well bring back Bertie.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    Surely Martin can no longer remain as leader of FF.........completely rejected at the polls on Saturday.
    Who’s inline to takeover?

    Ff being the largest party is some achievement, given they are a national disgrace !


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Ff being the largest party is some achievement, given they are a national disgrace !

    The financial crisis was a world wide event as far as I recall .....FF didn’t force anyone to queue for five days to they could get their hands on phase 3 of the meadows! The whole country was a disgrace back then..


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Maybe a republican leader for “the Republican Party” ... SF has stole their thunder on Northern Ireland. That was fertile ground for FF for generations.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,659 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Fianna Fail are old and stale this is why they are losing votes. FG I think are jaded from the 9 years in government and need the break. If both go in together in coalition government then it will see the end of one of them.


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