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Sinn Fein end Direct Provision

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  • 12-02-2020 4:17am
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    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭


    The Sinn Fein manifesto on Immigration is to end Direct provision .What is the alternative and how is this to be achieved ?


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    jimmycrackcorm
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    It's just another of their fantasy promises. In a housing crisis, where are they going to put asylum seekers?


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    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    It's just another of their fantasy promises. Im a housing crisis, where are they going to put asylum seekers?

    Just another policy that does not stack up !


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    joseywhales
    Registered Users Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Perhaps they will run out of ideas and just imprison innocent asylum seekers in an ironic twist.


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    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Get the RA to chase them out .


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    freshpopcorn
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    I think Mary Lou at one point said she just wanted everybody to be happy and something along the lines of things can be worked out.
    I'm also always told how great Eoin Ó'Broin and Pearse Doherty is at these issues so leave them to it.


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    Lyan
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Lyan


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    It's just another of their fantasy promises. In a housing crisis, where are they going to put asylum seekers?

    In houses.

    The Irish can be put in revamped shipping containers.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    What do the ra heads think?


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    Captain Red Beard
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    What do the ra heads think?

    They don't.


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    Richard Hillman
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    If SF went and ended Direct Provision, gave asylum to all and immediately housed them, their support would disintegrate within a month.


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    Ultimanemo
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Ultimanemo


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    It's just another of their fantasy promises. In a housing crisis, where are they going to put asylum seekers?
    In the houses they are going to build


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    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Captain Red Beard wrote: »
    They don't.

    You have to wonder are they aware of this policy because I know quite a few ra heads that are quite racist.

    I don't actually know a ra head that is not racist come to think of it!


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Good it's about time dp was cancelled. Its a disgusting, racist grubby little smear on this countries name. Packing refugees into substandard accommodation like sardines, did anyone think that was acceptable in the first place?


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    Pawwed Rig
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    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Packing refugees into substandard accommodation like sardines, did anyone think that was acceptable in the first place?

    Change refugees for Irish people and you could be describing the health service


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Change refugees for Irish people and you could be describing the health service

    What's that got to do with direct provision? Open a thread on the HSE if you want to discuss that.


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    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Good it's about time dp was cancelled. Its a disgusting, racist grubby little smear on this countries name. Packing refugees into substandard accommodation like sardines, did anyone think that was acceptable in the first place?

    So what your alternative plan ?


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    So what your alternative plan ?

    Treat people with dignity and find actual adequate housing and accommodation for them and help them integrate into the country.


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    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Treat people with dignity and find actual adequate housing and accommodation for them and help them integrate into the country.

    Erm, you do know why these people are not treated normally, right?

    Or do you believe every person who arrives in this country should be treated essentially as an Irish citizen?

    There are reasons Direct Provision exists.

    Many would argue it should not exist and most should be sent back as having no right to be here.


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Erm, you do know why these people are not treated normally, right?

    Or do you believe every person who arrives in this country should be treated essentially as an Irish citizen?

    There are reason Direct Provision exists.

    So we treat them like livestock until they prove their worth. You seem nice.


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    Kermit.de.frog
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    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    So we treat them like livestock until they prove their worth. You seem nice.

    I'm very nice and can spot a re-reg too.

    But that be as it may you don't seem to have an understanding of this issue at all.

    So we'll leave it there.


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I'm very nice and can spot a re-reg too.

    But that be as it may you don't seem to have an understanding of this issue at all.

    So we'll leave it there.

    Wtf is a re-reg?


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    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Wtf is a re-reg?

    I really don't need to go in to that. The mods will be more than happy to tell you.


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    I really don't need to go in to that. The mods will be more than happy to tell you.

    So basically you're full of **** then? You can't debate me so you throw around internet jargon and invoke the mods? Pathetic


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    iebamm2580
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    So basically you're full of **** then? You can't debate me so you throw around internet jargon and invoke the mods? Pathetic

    Whats there to debate, we have a housing crisis so how can we take in more asylum seekers and house them outside direct provision, this is the reality not some anti-immigration policy.


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    Finty Lemon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Relocate them to the 'North of Ireland'.
    Oh wait...


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    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    iebamm2580 wrote: »
    Whats there to debate, we have a housing crisis so how can we take in more asylum seekers and house them outside direct provision, this is the reality not some anti-immigration policy.

    Do you know what a re-reg is? Can anyone offer a bit of clarity?


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    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Do you know what a re-reg is? Can anyone offer a bit of clarity?

    It's like a sequel when you are making movies.


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    #28
    MakingMovies2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭MakingMovies2


    Gynoid wrote: »
    It's like a sequel when you are making movies.

    Well no this is my first account. And even if it wasn't I don't see why it should derail the entire argument


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    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,762 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Well no this is my first account.


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    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I am in agreement with various aspects of Sinn Fein's manifesto, but this wouldn't be one of them.

    The only thing to be done is to radically cut the time from first application to final descision on refugee applications (including all the appeal steps). The turnaround from first step to last should be 6 to 9 months max.

    Those that are granted asylum can get on with their lives in Ireland, those that fail to meet the bar need to go home, and I don't mean to be mean-spirited.

    There is currently no viable alternative to direct provision. We need an immigration system that is fair to both applicant and the Irish public at large. The current system of endless delays and long stretches between the exhaustive appeals is neither.


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    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    MakingMovies2 wrote: »
    Good it's about time dp was cancelled. Its a disgusting, racist grubby little smear on this countries name. Packing refugees into substandard accommodation like sardines, did anyone think that was acceptable in the first place?

    Because people love to punch down.


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