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FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Word has it that Eoghan Murphy has done a two kilometre run every day since the start of the lockdown, he's expected to reach the West coast sometime in May.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Word has it that Eoghan Murphy has done a two kilometre run every day since the start of the lockdown, he's expected to reach the West coast sometime in May.

    you have to give a Dad joke a nod ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    As I was saying earlier, his daily hero of tthe nation tweets are unwatchable for their cringiness and he really shouldn't be over egging the praise for the frontline staff unless he publicly admits he was wrong to treat them like something the dog dragged in, so recently.
    Maybe he has changed his attitude, who knows.

    https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1252330173338394624


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    As I was saying earlier, his daily hero of tthe nation tweets are unwatchable for their cringiness and he really shouldn't be over egging the praise for the frontline staff unless he publicly admits he was wrong to treat them like something the dog dragged in, so recently.
    Maybe he has changed his attitude, who knows.

    https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1252330173338394624

    You remind me of the classic Irish conversation:
    Simon: It's a grand sunny day.
    Francie: Sure it could be worse.

    Peig has done untold damage to this country...


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You remind me of the classic Irish conversation:
    Simon: It's a grand sunny day.
    Francie: Sure it could be worse.

    Peig has done untold damage to this country...

    Don't you find it cringe though, given what he was prepared to do to frontline staff?
    Do you think they are taken in by this...is anybody taken in by it?

    Sorry, just can't take part in the FG backslapping here. I have long ago come to the conclusion these people should be among our highest paid and cherished workers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,890 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Don't you find it cringe though, given what he was prepared to do to frontline staff?
    Do you think they are taken in by this...is anybody taken in by it?

    Sorry, just can't take part in the FG backslapping here. I have long ago come to the conclusion these people should be among our highest paid and cherished workers.

    Lol, no we are not taken in by your newfound love for the public service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Lol, no we are not taken in by your newfound love for the public service.

    Again I get lied about.

    I have only ever criticised elements of the public service. And I din't say anything in that post about 'new found love' for it all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,055 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Everyone’s back slapping of the medical profession is nauseating, they do a great job all the time but for some reason we no go out onto the street to clap.

    Nonsense virtue signalling .

    Anyway hopefully this ff fg government can form and this temporary surge for Mary Lou and her grim little entourage can abate. Last thing we need entering a financial crisis is the everything is free brigade.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Everyone’s back slapping of the medical profession is nauseating, they do a great job all the time but for some reason we no go out onto the street to clap.

    Nonsense virtue signalling .

    Anyway hopefully this ff fg government can form and this temporary surge for Mary Lou and her grim little entourage can abate. Last thing we need entering a financial crisis is the everything is free brigade.

    Entering?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    smurgen wrote: »
    Entering?

    In before 60k free houses gets bandied about.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Everyone’s back slapping of the medical profession is nauseating, they do a great job all the time but for some reason we no go out onto the street to clap.

    Nonsense virtue signalling .

    Anyway hopefully this ff fg government can form and this temporary surge for Mary Lou and her grim little entourage can abate. Last thing we need entering a financial crisis is the everything is free brigade.

    It’s copying the US to be honest, Also it seems countries trying to make a bigger show, so UK does something and we have to do next. Of course all all recorded on a phone

    Plenty of thread here complaining about what a nurse earns and they shouldn’t get a penny more. Now people all clapping them, small big two faced. The FG government are the same but people sneering are them now are the same saying the nurses didn’t need a raise

    SF won’t go into power because they haven’t a clue what to do. Noticeable very soon after the crisis the whole party has disappeared, apart from the charity thief abusing people on Facebook

    The rest are nowhere to be seen, if only it would stay like that


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    SF won’t go into power because they haven’t a clue what to do. Noticeable very soon after the crisis the whole party has disappeared'

    Yet another abject lie. If any party 'disappeared it was the one now cuddling up to FG (with FG's acceptance) - Fianna Fail.

    It's only a couple of days ago there was a stink about where Mary Lou had disappeared to.
    She was active up until she caught the actual illness at the centre of this. Doherty, MoN, and a good few of the front bench seem very active to me.

    Michael Martin didn't appear on the airwaves until after his 'deal' with FG was hatched and his contribution is all about government and the power he is seeking.

    Like your other lies, this one doesn't stand scrutiny for a second.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    "Nursing homes specifically account for almost half of all deaths in the current outbreak – 337 out of 687 total cases, of which 61 have now been classified as probable or suspected."

    That is a staggering figure. It looks as if Simon Harris' inaction has had a massive impact.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/nursing-or-care-homes-account-for-almost-60-of-coronavirus-related-deaths-1.4233679?mode=amp


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Or points to the success of the strategy that was implemented with the rest of the population?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Or points to the success of the strategy that was implemented with the rest of the population?

    What?

    You have a doctor resigning from the Medical COuncil, citing a complete lack of care and prep for this sector and just today the 11th patient of a home in Dundalk dies with staff citing the lack of PPE and preparedness as a reason?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Or points to the success of the strategy that was implemented with the rest of the population?

    Yup, the strategy for the country resulted in us seeing far lower death rates in the elderly not in car homes.

    15000 cases were feared to occur in March at one stage, we hit that number in week 3 April.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What?

    You have a doctor resigning from the Medical COuncil, citing a complete lack of care and prep for this sector and just today the 11th patient of a home in Dundalk dies with staff citing the lack of PPE and preparedness as a reason?

    How many didn't resign from the medical council, is the chap who resigned the know all of everything ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Augeo wrote: »
    How many didn't resign from the medical council, is the chap who resigned the know all of everything ?

    How many resigned from the Gardai, Banking, the Government itself? Doe that mean all was hunky dory..carry on, nothing to see here?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So is all not hunky dory in Sinn Fein so Francie? Based on Peadar Tóibín resigning........... or is that a loony application of your loony logic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Augeo wrote: »
    So is all not hunky dory in Sinn Fein so Francie? Based on Peadar Tóibín resigning........... or is that a loony application of your loony logic?

    That remained to be seen in how they preformed after he left. The electorate didn't seem to think there was the problem Peadar highlighted.

    It remains to be seen what relevance the resignation from the medical council has and if staff are correct about failures.

    See can you divert away from the implications of the above by mentioning something about SF or the 'RA? Knock yourself out as they say.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,442 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    What?

    You have a doctor resigning from the Medical COuncil, citing a complete lack of care and prep for this sector and just today the 11th patient of a home in Dundalk dies with staff citing the lack of PPE and preparedness as a reason?
    337 out of 687 versus 337 out of the initial projections by this point. "Half" depends on the numbers in nursing homes and the rest of the population.

    Didn't that support the UK "Herd Immunity" strategy earlier on in the crisis? How would that have worked out for nursing homes? They definitely wouldn't account for half the deaths anyway...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    337 out of 687 versus 337 out of the initial projections by this point. "Half" depends on the numbers in nursing homes and the rest of the population.

    Didn't that support the UK "Herd Immunity" strategy earlier on in the crisis? How would that have worked out for nursing homes? They definitely wouldn't account for half the deaths anyway...


    According to an article in the Times this morning his strategy was calling for the protection of the weak in nursing homes etc and herd immunity for the rest of us. He believes their concerns were actually ignored/forgotten, or words to that effect.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That remained to be seen in how they preformed after he left...............

    It remains to be seen what relevance the resignation from the medical council has and if staff are correct about failures.
    ..........

    Indeed, so what exactly are you on about below...
    What?

    You have a doctor resigning from the Medical COuncil, citing a complete lack of care and prep for this sector and just today the 11th patient of a home in Dundalk dies with staff citing the lack of PPE and preparedness as a reason?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    According to an article in the Times this morning his strategy was calling for the protection of the weak in nursing homes etc and herd immunity for the rest of us.............

    Sure with herd immunity strategy the health service would be over ran in weeks. We'd be in a disaster situation now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Augeo wrote: »
    Sure with herd immunity strategy the health service would be over ran in weeks. We'd be in a disaster situation now.

    We are in nursing homes or do those people just not exist?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Augeo wrote: »
    Sure with herd immunity strategy the health service would be over ran in weeks. We'd be in a disaster situation now.

    I'm not defending this guy, just pointing out a clarification for another poster.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smurgen wrote: »
    We are in nursing homes or do those people just not exist?

    So you wanted a disaster outside of nursing homes?
    More could have been done in nursing homes............ I'd not advocate for less being done outside of them though.
    And if the lad who resigned wanted that he's a loon IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,838 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Augeo wrote: »
    Indeed, so what exactly are you on about below...

    Somebody was making the inhuman and sickening point that the general population's safety and health was prioritised over the more vulnerable. That Simon Harris's 'inaction' pointed 'to the success of the strategy that was implemented with the rest of the population'.

    That doesn't sit well with me anyhow having vulnerable people in my family, who cannot look out for themselves.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Somebody was making the inhuman and sickening point that the general population's safety and health was prioritised over the more vulnerable.........

    It's frankly not true, the vulnerable have been prioritised in all of this.
    Those in nursing homes were higher risk due to the number of folk there and staff coming and going. Very unfortunate and more could have been done for them, no doubt.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Augeo wrote: »
    It's frankly not true, the vulnerable have been prioritised in all of this.
    Those in nursing homes were higher risk due to the number of folk there and staff coming and going. Very unfortunate and more could have been done for them, no doubt.


    In fairness they weren't. Fact is their rep has continually stated that on March 6 they wrote to HSE looking for specific guidelines in relation to nursing homes which were ignored and PPE and other services have been curtailed.


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