FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

smurgen

No surprises here from FG. Homeless figures back up.what a depressing party they are.


https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1233131383146655746?s=19

Suckit

It'll be interesting to see who gets seats on the Seanad. Was a lesson learned?
FG are unlikely to make Enda's mate a senator again, sure he's done his bit at this stage.
God love them, the general public have put them in a terrible position. So many rejected former TD's looking for a seat, but what about the previous lot?
Terrible conundrum for them to be in.

JohnnyFlash

It's time for another election. That should appease all sides of the endless arguments here.

SF get to run 2nd and 3rd candidates in constituencies, with a view to getting close to an overall majority. The formation of a Government will then be made up of SF and a few independents. We then get to see them implement their policies: rent freezes, cutting USC for low earners, getting rid of property tax, getting rid of Irish Water, a dramatic increase in investment in health care. May God help us all if you work for a small business or are self-employed.

FG will go back to the electorate with a message of financial prudence, balanced budgets, fiscal realities, and long-term Keynesian investments in infrastructure.

FF will flounder in the middle, trying to be all things to all people.

Suckit

Another election would a good solution. Nobody would have to listen to FG moan about the people voting for change, and not wanting them anymore (God love them), they would have to accept it this time. It could very likely go in their favour.
It is possible that they could hide away and not accept it, or stand on the sidelines shouting again.... :rolleyes:
SF realistically need only fill half or a quarter of their campaign promises, if they were to do well in a re-election, and they still look better than FG.
FG will go back to the electorate, and the electorate will remember them cowarding away from the any challenges, their quangos, privatisation of everything, their arrogance, their failure to make any important decisions, their overspending etc..
Soc Dems will probably gain a few seats.
FF will possibly even improve on the back of it.
One thing is certain, FG seem to have no grasp on the reality of how they are perceived at the moment by a massive portion of the population, and there is probably only a small handful responsible for that.
Things can only get better...

McMurphy

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's time for another election. That should appease all sides of the endless arguments here.

SF get to run 2nd and 3rd candidates in constituencies, with a view to getting close to an overall majority. The formation of a Government will then be made up of SF and a few independents. We then get to see them implement their policies: rent freezes, cutting USC for low earners, getting rid of property tax, getting rid of Irish Water, a dramatic increase in investment in health care. May God help us all if you work for a small business or are self-employed.

FG will go back to the electorate with a message of financial prudence, balanced budgets, fiscal realities, and long-term Keynesian investments in infrastructure.

FF will flounder in the middle, trying to be all things to all people.

FG couldn't get an overall majority in 2011 after the financial meltdown FF and the greens left behind (back when this was still a two party state), so I think it might be wishful thinking that the shinners will achieve one just because there's been a 3 - way tie in early 2020.

FG and FF should stop the play fighting and either coalesce together, neither of them will cherish another election.

ThunbergsAreGo

smurgen wrote: »

No surprises here from FG. Homeless figures back up.what a depressing party they are.


https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1233131383146655746?s=19

It's not always a conspiracy, some might simply have been people being taken in for Christmas only

is_that_so

McMurphy wrote: »

FG couldn't get an overall majority in 2011 after the financial meltdown FF and the greens left behind (back when this was still a two party state), so I think it might be wishful thinking that the shinners will achieve one just because there's been a 3 - way tie in early 2020.

FG and FF should stop the play fighting and either coalesce together, neither of them will cherish another election.

Part of the so-called "play fighting" is the timescale required for such negotiations and the fact that we are barely two weeks on from an election. It's like attempting to join the same poles of two magnets together, some forces need to be overcome. The media doesn't help with its almost daily soundbyte or opinion piece on lack of progress, which serves to give the largely ignorant and impatient public the impression they are all stalling.

McMurphy

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

It's not always a conspiracy, some might simply have been people going back home for Christmas, or being taken in for Christmas only

How does a homeless person to back home for Christmas if they're homeless?

ThunbergsAreGo

McMurphy wrote: »

How does a homeless person to back home for Christmas if they're homeless?

Family home, sisters, brothers, cousins, friends etc. People kindness is extended at Christmas.

I'll edit to clarify

is_that_so

Suckit wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see who gets seats on the Seanad. Was a lesson learned?
FG are unlikely to make Enda's mate a senator again, sure he's done his bit at this stage.
God love them, the general public have put them in a terrible position. So many rejected former TD's looking for a seat, but what about the previous lot?
Terrible conundrum for them to be in.

Senate election is not really representative of any demographic in the country and has a tiny electorate. There are many who get elected who would never get into the Big House.

McMurphy

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Family home, sisters, brothers, cousins, friends etc. People kindness is extended at Christmas.

I'll edit to clarify

But they're still homeless, even if they're visiting no?

FrancieBrady

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Family home, sisters, brothers, cousins, friends etc. People kindness is extended at Christmas.

I'll edit to clarify

So how did they calculate this?

Did homeless people sign a form saying they were going to family? Did they have to pass through a sensor or something?

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

No surprises here from FG. Homeless figures back up.what a depressing party they are.


https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1233131383146655746?s=19

They are still below October and November figures.

smurgen

blanch152 wrote: »

They are still below October and November figures.

Greatest gain yet.needs explaining.

smurgen

Hopefully they'll finally get to the bottom of what was done to McCabe

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mccabe-social-workers-to-face-inquiry-984845.html?__twitter_impression=true

easypazz

smurgen wrote: »

Greatest gain yet.needs explaining.

125 tds with all the answers can step in now and fix all.

Why are the 125 not doing anything about fixing things?

all about the mane

smurgen wrote: »

Hopefully they'll finally get to the bottom of what was done to McCabe

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mccabe-social-workers-to-face-inquiry-984845.html?__twitter_impression=true

Jerry?

smurgen

all about the mane wrote: »

Jerry?

Nah the one FG tried to destroy.

all about the mane

smurgen wrote: »

Nah the one FG tried to destroy.

As opposed to the one that SF/IRA murdered. Thanks for the clarification.

votecounts

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's time for another election. That should appease all sides of the endless arguments here.

SF get to run 2nd and 3rd candidates in constituencies, with a view to getting close to an overall majority. The formation of a Government will then be made up of SF and a few independents. We then get to see them implement their policies: rent freezes, cutting USC for low earners, getting rid of property tax, getting rid of Irish Water, a dramatic increase in investment in health care. May God help us all if you work for a small business or are self-employed.

FG will go back to the electorate with a message of financial prudence, balanced budgets, fiscal realities, and long-term Keynesian investments in infrastructure.

FF will flounder in the middle, trying to be all things to all people.

I assume that was a piss take or if was not, lay off the sauce and have a lie down.

Plumbthedepths

Just saw the poll on the Times , SF on 35% FF on 20% and FG on 18%. No way do FF or FG want another election.

all about the mane

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Just saw the poll on the Times , SF on 35% FF on 20% and FG on 18%. No way do FF or FG want another election.

FF certainly don't. FG will be happy enough.

Jinglejangle69

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Just saw the poll on the Times , SF on 35% FF on 20% and FG on 18%. No way do FF or FG want another election.

Why??

FrancieBrady

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why??

If you are a FGer or FFer, 35% of the population prefer a party 'controlled by the 'RA' to you.

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you are a FGer or FFer, 35% of the population prefer a party 'controlled by the 'RA' to you.

Put them in charge. They'll sort everything. Covid19 will be a good challenge for them.

Jinglejangle69

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you are a FGer or FFer, 35% of the population prefer a party 'controlled by the 'RA' to you.

FG have stated they are happy to go into opposition as the electorate has spoke.

This poll just reinforces their stance.

There is no appetite for FG in government.


So another election won't bother them.

all about the mane

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

FG have stated they are happy to go into opposition as the electorate has spoke.

This poll just reinforces their stance.

There is no appetite for FG in government.


So another election won't bother them.

Yet it seems to really really bother the shinners. You'd nearly think they were worried about getting into power

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

Yet it seems to really really bother the shinners. You'd nearly think they were worried about getting into power

Can't speak for the party, but I'd imagine what bothers them is the continued campaigns against them that have nothing to do with policy.
But I'd say they are secretly smiling now...the GC can't seem to scare away the vote. +10% since the election?
Time for the strategy teams to walk the plank in FF and FG.

all about the mane

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Can't speak for the party, but I'd imagine what bothers them is the continued campaigns against them that have nothing to do with policy.
But I'd say they are secretly smiling now...the GC can't seem to scare away the vote. +10% since the election?
Time for the strategy teams to walk the plank in FF and FG.

If thats all it takes to bother them, they'll have a rude awakening if they go into power. Then again, we know they have no intention of going into power.

FrancieBrady

all about the mane wrote: »

If thats all it takes to bother them, they'll have a rude awakening if they go into power. Then again, we know they have no intention of going into power.

I know you like that wee drum to beat - 'no intention of going into power' - but they are doing everything they can to increase their vote of there is another election and they are still negotiating with others. The Greens, ( who fallen in the polls too) for instance haven't walked away.
I noticed new signage up here today from SF.

Maybe they know we are on our way back to the people for another vote?