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One year in jail for five plants

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,143 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Such a backwards law, it'll cost the taxpayer about 100k to lock him up, ridiculous.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    That is so wrong.
    Poor guy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    It's very messed up. Look what happened this guy, blinded by an acid attack and they get a caution :eek:

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/culprits-of-acid-attack-on-waterford-teens-will-only-get-juvenile-cautions-dpp-informs-victims-38914210.html

    Man 45 grows some weed, goes to jail for a year. FFS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    "
    Ray Boland, defence barrister, said the accused kept himself to himself and never came to the attention of gardaí for selling cannabis, it was always for his own use. He said the 45-year-old lived alone.

    Mr Boland repeated that the use of the cannabis was as a medicine.
    The judge said: “The day for posters was last Saturday.” In his judgement he said the accused was very entrenched in his beliefs about the use of drugs.
    “He continues on his own way – that is great but it is not legal. I am more or less being asked to give it a say so, which I am not going to do. A custodial sentence is necessary.”



    Yeah a real dangerous master mind taken off the streets /s
    FFS


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Custodial sentence.

    Does that mean the judge was legally compelled to sentence him?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 User94


    This is the problem with criminal justice system in Ireland, alcohol is far more detrimental on society that weed. The problem is that people have always associated weed with class -A drugs which as everyone who smokes weed knows is complete bull****. People have seen the heroin and cocaine epidemic in Ireland grow through the last 30 years and seen the devastation its caused so anything associated with drugs most people tend to stay away. Unfortunately the cocaine trade is booming, every night I'm down the street you cant move for the stuff, and the harsh reality is it's just going to get worse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Easy target.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Custodial sentence.

    Does that mean the judge was legally compelled to sentence him?


    Custodial means to be jailed or kept in custody. Mandatory means the judge is compelled to give a sentence of a stated time or longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭Cork_Langer1


    Custodial means to be jailed or kept in custody. Mandatory means the judge is compelled to give a sentence of a stated time or longer.

    It's the devil's lettuce, it leads you to grow poppy plants and coca leaves and gives you phycological issues.

    It has to stay illegal for the jobs, guards, solicitors,judges publicans, pharmacies, addiction centers.

    Hope it's appealed straight away.but the previous for growing and the old 1998 conviction for sale and supply had a bearing on the sentence.

    We truly are a backward country, this person removed the criminality from his pasttime and knew exactly what he was smoking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Do the Gardai not have something better ro do. What a waste of everyone's time


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    For me the criminal justice system and health care are the two biggest problems in this country that should be top of all parties agendas.

    You can get away with a vicious assault here after 200 convictions and walk away scott free, back to your benefit laden lifestyle safe in the knowledge the next time you get caught the taxman will once again foot any of your bills. Meanwhile we spend a fortune on cases like this and piss the progressive taxes on weed we could be reaping down the toilet. Imagine what that money could do for our nurses.

    Serious shakeup needed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭Still waters


    The guards are worse to be wasting their time on things like this, he's a soft target and it looks good for the clown that caught him


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Growing it for his own use to treat a medical condition. He wasn’t funding criminals with his lifestyle.

    Ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭Murt10


    Excuse my naivety, but what in the name of God was that case tried in the Circuit Criminal Court for? I thought that was the court where they tried people for serious crimes or where they pleaded not guilty and wanted a trial by jury.

    This is obviously quite a trivial and minor offence. Nobody was hurt. Large amounts of money weren't stolen. Surely this should have been tried in the District Court. He admitted the charge, so the only issue before the court should have been to take mitigating factors into account and decide on the length of the sentence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Urethral Buttercup


    Poor fellah. Judge sounds like a pompous cnut.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Judge Seán Ó Donnabháin said: “He is not an addict, he is dedicated. He told the doctor it does him good.”

    "Entrenched in his beliefs"

    Etc.

    They're really looking to lord over people. Such entitlement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    He probably didn't from a 'disadvantaged' background so no excuse - or mercy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Strong with the weak, and weak with the strong, same old story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    How did this man even come to their attention ? What was he doing that was detrimental to society which should be the test for any prosecution ?
    We have too many coppers with f..k all substantial to be doing !


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Ghetofarmulous


    Poor guy. Terrible laws. For such a liberal and progressive country we really roll back sometimes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Judge Seán Ó Donnabháin said: “He is not an addict, he is dedicated. He told the doctor it does him good.”

    "Entrenched in his beliefs"

    Etc.

    They're really looking to lord over people. Such entitlement.

    I'd say the judge is fairly entrenched in his own beliefs if he's sending someone down for a year for that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,091 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    rob316 wrote:
    Such a backwards law, it'll cost the taxpayer about 100k to lock him up, ridiculous.

    Ah it won't really. They will spend the exact same on running the prison weather he's in it or not. Once you realise that the prison & staff have to be paid for with or without him you will then realise that it actually costs only around 25 euro per week to feed him in prison. There are no extra costs for the prison service just because one particular person is in prison


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭Allinall


    He knew he was breaking the law.

    Don’t see a problem.


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Ghetofarmulous


    Allinall wrote: »
    He knew he was breaking the law.

    Don’t see a problem.

    The problem is with the severity of the law. That’s what’s being discussed. Not the fact he broke the law.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭Allinall


    The problem is with the severity of the law. That’s what’s being discussed. Not the fact he broke the law.

    It if he got 6 months, or a €2,000 fine there would be the same outrage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52,014 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The problem is with the severity of the law. That’s what’s being discussed. Not the fact he broke the law.

    His problem is that he had previous for supplying.
    A year is very severe though. Should have got community service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,091 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    His problem is that he had previous for supplying. A year is very severe though. Should have got community service.


    If it was just for personal use no one would have ratted him out. Gardai would never have known. They didn't get a search warrant on a whim.

    A year is a lot but he gets 25 percent off. This leaves 9 months at the very most.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    It's mad that you can go to the likes of Spain and legally smoke this but here is this poor fecker with a year if his life down the drain, along with future prospects.

    All because of a plant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭CageWager


    Big pharma can’t be having people growing their own medicine.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭satguy


    Judge should be sacked.


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