The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

Nijmegen

Take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt, as it comes from local folks familiar with the situation (but as a result also potentially biased, I dunno). But basically neither she nor her partner have worked a day in Clare, though she has volunteered in various things. So inferring from that in terms of what they're entitled to they are basically on the full welfare ride. 5 kids, €700 per month. €203 per week each in personal welfare. €180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2. Dunno how you price the rent when they weren't paying it... Medical benefits and all the rest. Fuel allowance €24.50 per week.

I'd say these guys are pulling in about €50k per year in welfare, so actually moving to a €96k per year gross salary (€59k net or so, maybe less with pension levy etc in public service) will probably cost them about €31k in benefits.

Highley education hippy-dippy person with strange views on vaccination living in rural Clare trying an alternative lifestyle there are hundreds if not thousands of them in Clare.

Gaeilgeoirí and a vegan as well by any chance.

schmoo2k

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

...I have a daughter, never in a million years have her vaccinated.
She's never been sick either touch wood.

Get her vaccinated and you wouldn't need to "touch wood" (please ignore the obvious double entendre).

Annasopra

Deleted User wrote: »

I live in Clare, and it's clear that SF didn't vet her at all. Two other more viable candidates didn't run, so they chanced an unknown. A little digging, and a litany of red flags were unearthed. Leaving enormous rent arrears in her wake without any discernable conscience, and now the tinfoil shenanigans. Not to mention having a convicted criminal for a boyfriend. If this is the quality of candidate SF are running, then they're in for a rude awakening at the ballot box in a few months.

SF really shafted the other 2 from what I can gather.

SafeSurfer

Nijmegen wrote: »

Take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt, as it comes from local folks familiar with the situation (but as a result also potentially biased, I dunno). But basically neither she nor her partner have worked a day in Clare, though she has volunteered in various things. So inferring from that in terms of what they're entitled to they are basically on the full welfare ride. 5 kids, €700 per month. €203 per week each in personal welfare. €180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2. Dunno how you price the rent when they weren't paying it... Medical benefits and all the rest. Fuel allowance €24.50 per week.

I'd say these guys are pulling in about €50k per year in welfare, so actually moving to a €96k per year gross salary (€59k net or so, maybe less with pension levy etc in public service) will probably cost them about €31k in benefits.

Don’t forget that Sinn Fein TDs only claim the average industrial wage!

Or was that lie exposed during the last presidential election?

Unfortunately I've already come across Trumpian levels of deflection, whataboutery and plain pretending among some SF supporters in the last while. It's staggering how quickly it's happened tbh.

Tea-a-Maria

I can see the anti-HPV vaccine stance going down quite badly in Clare, given Laura Brennan was from Ennis. A lot of GAA clubs in the county rowed in behind the vaccination campaign, putting HPV vaccine logos on their kit.

Joe Carey, the FG TD, has already called her out for it and made reference to Laura.

facehugger99

Nijmegen wrote: »

Take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt, as it comes from local folks familiar with the situation (but as a result also potentially biased, I dunno). But basically neither she nor her partner have worked a day in Clare, though she has volunteered in various things. So inferring from that in terms of what they're entitled to they are basically on the full welfare ride. 5 kids, €700 per month. €203 per week each in personal welfare. €180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2. Dunno how you price the rent when they weren't paying it... Medical benefits and all the rest. Fuel allowance €24.50 per week.

I'd say these guys are pulling in about €50k per year in welfare, so actually moving to a €96k per year gross salary (€59k net or so, maybe less with pension levy etc in public service) will probably cost them about €31k in benefits.

I can see why SF want to increase SW payments - have to look after their own first.

Stark

Deleted User wrote: »

Unfortunately I've already come across Trumpian levels of deflection, whataboutery and plain pretending among some SF supporters in the last while. It's staggering how quickly it's happened tbh.

MSM Fake News!!

James Brown

I suppose something from 3 years ago beats several. Fair play to the journos for following up despite the general election

limnam

is_that_so wrote: »

It is worth noting that three TDs have now managed to have the party portrayed in a negative light in less than a week. It will encourage cub reporters all over to get digging into all the rest of the newbies and there will be more stories.

Once they dig up the hiding of cervical cancer results from dieing women. Then I'll show concern.

Oh wait....

is_that_so

limnam wrote: »

Once they dig up the hiding of cervical cancer results from dieing women. Then I'll show concern.

Oh wait....

And you're back to using the dying women again as a form of whataboutery.

limnam

is_that_so wrote: »

And you're back to using the dying women again as a very odd form of whataboutery.

Because someone who said 24 hours ago a 12k donation was not paid over night as someone got a 90k+ a year job who hasn't got a pay cheque yet hasn't handed over 12k from it.

_this_ is what we should worried about?

is_that_so

limnam wrote: »

Because someone who said 24 hours ago a 12k donation was not paid over night as someone got a 90k+ a year job who hasn't got a pay cheque yet hasn't handed over 12k from it.

_this_ is what we should worried about?

Lack of vetting? 3rd choice by some accounts? SIPO? Someone not prepared to pay her way? Poor optics for her party?

Nijmegen

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Don’t forget that Sinn Fein TDs only claim the average industrial wage!

Or was that lie exposed during the last presidential election?

If she took the average industrial wage they'd be net worse off, getting elected would be a pay cut for her. I'm sure the party will "means test" her or something... If they still have that (highly dubious) policy.

I can see why SF want to increase SW payments - have to look after their own first.

Nearly a quarter of votes. Incidentally, according to their own latest statistics report 1.3 million of the 4.7 million people in Ireland receive a welfare payment of one sort or another. 27.65%. Funny correlation. https://assets.gov.ie/27810/431df864c9004956b597cd6c2d84936b.pdf

Boggles

Nijmegen wrote: »

Nearly a quarter of votes. Incidentally, according to their own latest statistics report 1.3 million of the 4.7 million people in Ireland receive a welfare payment of one sort or another. 27.65%. Funny correlation. https://assets.gov.ie/27810/431df864c9004956b597cd6c2d84936b.pdf

SF are not in power now, nor were they when that report came out in 2018.

limnam

is_that_so wrote: »

Lack of vetting? SIPO? Someone not prepared to pay her way? Poor optics for her party?

Mary Butler had Billy Kenneally knocking on the door of a child abuse victim of his cousin. To canvas for her. Billy Kenneally who knew about his cousin being a child abuser and never told the garda.

This is something worthy of discussion.

Nah,

Lets talk someone who was behind on their rent.

Off the stage.

endacl

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

I have a daughter, never in a million years have her vaccinated.

It takes fewer keystrokes to type “I am an idiot”.

blanch152

zoobizoo wrote: »

Brady in Wicklow also.

The man on 100k living in a council house?

Nijmegen

Boggles wrote: »

SF are not in power now, nor were they when that report came out in 2018.

I was comparing SFs vote tracking to the % of the population receiving welfare. It was a bit tongue in cheek but the point I'm making is that they are the party of people who prefer getting more money from the state versus people who prefer keeping more of their own money from the state. And on topic, Violet-Anne seems like a caricature of a welfare scrounging anti-vaxxer who won't pay her bills.

blanch152

limnam wrote: »

Once they dig up the hiding of cervical cancer results from dieing women. Then I'll show concern.

Oh wait....

This would be the most hilariously ironic post ever in the history of boards if it wasn't about a serious situation.

The only reason that people will continue to die from cervical cancer is because of the idiotic lies spread by the likes of Violet-Anne Wynne. The HPV vaccine that she opposes will prevent cervical cancer. There will be no need for women to depend on unreliable screening tests.

limnam

Nijmegen wrote: »

I was comparing SFs vote tracking to the % of the population receiving welfare. It was a bit tongue in cheek but the point I'm making is that they are the party of people who prefer getting more money from the state versus people who prefer keeping more of their own money from the state. And on topic, Violet-Anne seems like a caricature of a welfare scrounging anti-vaxxer who won't pay her bills.

O'Brion and MLM handed back about 14k of wage increases recently.

Leo can donate it to the charity.

limnam

blanch152 wrote: »

This would be the most hilariously ironic post ever in the history of boards if it wasn't about a serious situation.

The only reason that people will continue to die from cervical cancer is because of the idiotic lies spread by the likes of Violet-Anne Wynne. The HPV vaccine that she opposes will prevent cervical cancer. There will be no need for women to depend on unreliable screening tests.

My understanding is she came out and said these are no longer her views on the topic.

Harris can go to the graves of the dead women and say sorry.

Kivaro

limnam wrote: »

My understanding is she came out and said these are no longer her views on the topic.

Harris can go to the graves of the dead women and say sorry.

Can't believe you are still doing it.

limnam

Kivaro wrote: »

Can't believe you are still doing it.

I can move on to man in pub shouts up the ra?

more interesting to you?

Boggles

Nijmegen wrote: »

I was comparing SFs vote tracking to the % of the population receiving welfare. It was a bit tongue in cheek but the point I'm making is that they are the party of people who prefer getting more money from the state versus people who prefer keeping more of their own money from the state. And on topic, Violet-Anne seems like a caricature of a welfare scrounging anti-vaxxer who won't pay her bills.

Really? Which party brought in the "temporary" USC?

The same party who just promised a fiver increase in the pension for the life of the next government.

But sure LOUD NOISES!!!

freshpopcorn

In the local elections last year Sinn Fein ran a candidate who'd I just call a tad hyper but she wouldn't have a good name locally. She basically gives out a lot. If they did any bit of research she wouldn't have been selected because she isn't liked. Even during her canvassing she only had her family and one other lad.

Similar my Sinn Fein TD in Cork East got caught drink driving but got a seat on 2016 and the only reason why I've heard of him since was he was in court for being drunk and disorderly.
Now he's had his problems, etc but you'd think they could find better.

limnam

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Similar my Sinn Fein TD in Cork East got caught drink driving but got a seat on 2016 and the only reason why I've heard of him since was he was in court for being drunk and disorderly.
Now he's had his problems, etc but you'd think they could find better.

Sure aren't the rae's constantly campaigning to bring back drink driving?

CrankyHaus

freshpopcorn wrote: »

In the local elections last year Sinn Fein ran a candidate who'd I just call a tad hyper but she wouldn't have a good name locally. She basically gives out a lot. If they did any bit of research she wouldn't have been selected because she isn't liked. Even during her canvassing she only had her family and one other lad.

Similar my Sinn Fein TD in Cork East got caught drink driving but got a seat on 2016 and the only reason why I've heard of him since was he was in court for being drunk and disorderly.
Now he's had his problems, etc but you'd think they could find better.

The reality is most politicians are fairly terrible people, SF, FF, FG, whatever. I know of dodgy pasts of SD, Labour and Independents. The difference is the more established parties have the connections to better bury these things and their people are often at the social level where the morally abhorrent stuff they profit from is technically within the law.

James Brown

The anti-vax thing is woeful. I think it's wrong for any public representative to speak out when they are either ignorant of the facts or suspicious. Best thing to do is say nothing if you've personal doubts rather than spread misinformation.

limnam

Bowie wrote: »

The anti-vax thing is woeful. I think it's wrong for any public representative to speak out when they are either ignorant of the facts or suspicious. Best thing to do is say nothing if you've personal doubts rather than spread misinformation.

My understanding is she wasn't a public representative at the time of the comments and since claimed they're no longer her views.

AmberGold

We’ve voted in a right bunch of muppets this time...

James Brown

limnam wrote: »

My understanding is she wasn't a public representative at the time of the comments and since claimed they're no longer her views.

I was speaking generally, I know nothing about the woman TBH.

suicide_circus

well she's on 96k per year now so maybe she can pay back the 12k she owes Clare county council?

limnam

AmberGold wrote: »

We’ve voted in a right bunch of muppets this time...

Yep, How Harris and Murphy got in is dumbfounding.

limnam

suicide_circus wrote: »

well she's on 96k per year now so maybe she can pay back the 12k she owes Clare county council?

That would have been interesting to see before claiming she won't after an offer was made 24 hours ago for her to do so.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

That would have been interesting to see before claiming she won't after an offer was made 24 hours ago for her to do so.

The type of online supporters that SF usually had seemed to be very quiet during this election but it turns our they were just gone to ground for a while.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

That would have been interesting to see before claiming she won't after an offer was made 24 hours ago for her to do so.

She offered to pay back the charity after she was elected very good of her did she change her mine about the vacacations after she got elected too?

limnam

mariaalice wrote: »

She offered to pay back the charity after she was elected very good of her did she change her mine about the vacacations after she got elected too?

I didn't say she offered to pay it back.

The paper claimed the suggestion to pay it back was made 24 hours ago.

Based on that it's turned to refused to.

So we don't know if she's refused to do anything.

When she changed her view on it I don't know. But there's many TD's who have made mistakes in the past and fail to admit them. Looks like she's holding her hands up on this one. Makes a change.

freshpopcorn

limnam wrote: »

Sure aren't the rae's constantly campaigning to bring back drink driving?

They campaigned against some of Shane Ross's measures.( I don't know know of they are still doing it.)
I just personally think they could find a better candidate for the area than somebody who was three times over the legal limit and got drunk again and had an argument with the Gardai.

StupidLikeAFox

limnam wrote: »

Mary Butler had Billy Kenneally knocking on the door of a child abuse victim of his cousin. To canvas for her. Billy Kenneally who knew about his cousin being a child abuser and never told the garda.

This is something worthy of discussion.

Nah,

Lets talk someone who was behind on their rent.

Off the stage.

What has that got to do with anything - both of these situations are shameful?

"Behind on their rent" is the understatement of the year

seamus

limnam, there's a long way to go here yet. If you're going to try and respond to every single post criticising Sinn Féin when dirt is dug up, you're going to wear your fingers down to stubs by the end of February. Pace yourself man.

limnam

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

What has that got to do with anything - both of these situations are shameful?

"Behind on their rent" is the understatement of the year

We have no idea of her circumstances or why the payments stopped.

So I think at this point calling it shameful is a tad early.

If the monies are not paid or an arrangement made in the near future I'll agree with you. There's a problem.

What it's got to do with is one is shameful but not considered talking about as it's not SF.

Edgware

limnam wrote: »

I didn't say she offered to pay it back.

The paper claimed the suggestion to pay it back was made 24 hours ago.

Based on that it's turned to refused to.

So we don't know if she's refused to do anything.

When she changed her view on it I don't know. But there's many TD's who have made mistakes in the past and fail to admit them. Looks like she's holding her hands up on this one. Makes a change.

All she had to do was to see what the Shinners did to Sandra Mclellan T.D. in Cork East when she wouldn't toe the " take the average working wage" line.. They bullied her out of the party.
Different rules of course for the scumbag bomb maker elected in Dublin. He needs 90000 a year to survive

Jizique

Edgware wrote: »

All she had to do was to see what the Shinners did to Sandra Mclellan T.D. in Cork East when she wouldn't toe the " take the average working wage" line.. They bullied her out of the party.
Different rules of course for the scumbag bomb maker elected in Dublin. He needs 90000 a year to survive

He is on a bonus scheme - an extra grand per casualty

Don’t forget all the expenses they can claim. They amount to more than many workers earn in a year.

JohnnyFlash

seamus wrote: »

limnam, there's a long way to go here yet. If you're going to try and respond to every single post criticising Sinn Féin when dirt is dug up, you're going to wear your fingers down to stubs by the end of February. Pace yourself man.

They need to work in teams.

mynamejeff

limnam wrote: »

We have no idea of her circumstances or why the payments stopped.

So I think at this point calling it shameful is a tad early.

If the monies are not paid or an arrangement made in the near future I'll agree with you. There's a problem.

What it's got to do with is one is shameful but not considered talking about as it's not SF.

"Ms Wynne, a graduate from Trinity College Dublin, said she had a falling-out with the organisation and didn’t pay up because of family health problems."

the circumstances seem clear , she choose to stop playing it . her husband used the same health problems excuse when he was caught with illegal drugs

Big Ears

limnam wrote: »

Sure aren't the rae's constantly campaigning to bring back drink driving?

And yet you'd be strongly defending them if they were SF candidates !

limnam

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They need to work in teams.

Says Brendan's side kick. :pac: