The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

limnam

Zulu wrote: »

And if we demanded a higher standard of public representative, for example one with integrity, we'd be even better off again.

( Different in Sweden... )

We put back in a TD who stood over young women dieing of cervical cancer.

This is not a country that demands any standards at all.

1641

limnam wrote: »

This doesn't delve into the circumstances etc

We get the charity didn't get all of their money.

But looks like she will put 12k to a charity.

As I said before if all TD's were happy to right any potential wrongs. We'd be in a much better place.

You mean she was told to pay the money when it was made public? The same way as Reada Cronin was told to delete her tweets and apologise?
You don't disobey orders from the Council.

limnam

1641 wrote: »

You mean she was told to pay the money when it was made public? The same way as Reada Cronin was told to delete her tweets and apologise?
You don't disobey orders from the Council.

If she was told. At least she was told.

1641

limnam wrote: »

If she was told. At least she was told.

Sure. Puppets on a string. Up the RA, right?

limnam

1641 wrote: »

Sure. Puppets on a string. Up the RA, right?

Sound.

Good talk.

CatFromHue

limnam wrote: »

We put back in a TD who stood over young women dieing of cervical cancer.

This is not a country that demands any standards at all.

Who did that?

There seems to be a massive misunderstanding over what happened in the cervical cancer scandal.

Most other countries don't even disclose the results of false positives/negatives to patients, for the reason we're seeing here in Ireland.

ger664

lab man wrote: »

its either of the two because where they were evicted from was tullycrine so the kids were at school there at the time

Tullycrine NS is clsoed and has been for 2-3 years

mloc123

limnam wrote: »

If she was told. At least she was told.

The hoops people will jump through to defend SF is amazing... sure aren't they great, they told her to pay back the money she essentially stole from a charity.

Shefwedfan

limnam wrote: »

We put back in a TD who stood over young women dieing of cervical cancer.

This is not a country that demands any standards at all.

Which TD?

limnam

mloc123 wrote: »

The hoops people will jump through to defend SF is amazing... sure aren't they great, they told her to pay back the money she essentially stole from a charity.

If TD's were happy to give back hundreds of thousands of falsely claimed expenses maybe FG wouldn't had to have pulled funding from the charity for example.

leck

limnam wrote: »

We put back in a TD who stood over young women dieing of cervical cancer.

This is not a country that demands any standards at all.

Funny you should mention that. Are you aware that Ms Wynne has expressed anti-vaccination views, including the HPV vaccine.

A newly elected Sinn Féin TD has expressed strong opposition to the HPV and other vaccinations.

In a series of social media comments, Clare TD Violet-Anne Wynne criticised the HSE for suggesting there was no scientific evidence that vaccines were unsafe.

On Facebook, Ms Wynne compared the dangers posed by the "ingredients" in vaccinations to changing where you buy coffee.
The first-time TD also said the compulsory vaccination of children, which was introduced in Italy, was "medical tyranny".

. " [Irish Independent]

The HPV vaccine has been credited with saving the lives of thousands of Irish women who could have developed cancer without been vaccinated.

In an about-face, she said "The points that I made previously in relation to vaccinations were not in line with party policy and predate my election as a TD by a number of years”. The number of years would be two when it was hard to miss the news about cervical cancer and not be affected by the heroic efforts of the late Laura Brennan to campaign for the HPV vaccine.

limnam

leck wrote: »

Funny you should mention that. Are you aware that Ms Wynne has expressed anti-vaccination views, including the HPV vaccine.
. " [Irish Independent]

The HPV vaccine has been credited with saving the lives of thousands of Irish women who could have developed cancer without been vaccinated.

In an about-face, she said "The points that I made previously in relation to vaccinations were not in line with party policy and predate my election as a TD by a number of years”.

Yeah we discussed last week

I believe other TD's including FG are on record about concerns for vaccines

She has came out to advise they're no longer her views or the ones of the party

limnam

HPV U-TURN Fine Gael vice-president defends raising concerns about HPV vaccine – but says there is no need for review group to look into side effects

John Paul Phelan is the second Junior Minister to backtrack on previous questions after Finian McGrath accepted the jab was a 'very important part' of Government policy

..We have learned that 13 other politicians raised issues with the drug including Fine Gael TDs Phelan, former Ceann Comhairle Sean Barrett and Tony McLoughlin.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/1488740/f...ffects-health/

leck

ger664 wrote: »

Tullycrine NS is closed and has been for 2-3 years

Did the rural resettlement scheme play a part in keeping that school open for so long. I don't have a sub to the Irish Times so can't read this full article, but it begins "Rural resettlement body acts to save Clare school. Rural Resettlement Ireland (RRI) yesterday moved to secure the future of a ..."

After the Wynne family moved into Kilrush, maybe their children were taxied out to Tullycrine to keep the school numbers up?

thequarefellow

If she pays back the 12k it is a good thing. Whether she did it from a sense of responsibility or wheter she was told to. I wouldnt vote SF in next election if she didnt. Fine Gael should have demanded that Alan Farrell pay back the money he fraudulently took after lying in court. I might have then voted for them.

leck

limnam wrote: »

HPV U-TURN Fine Gael vice-president defends raising concerns about HPV vaccine – but says there is no need for review group to look into side effects

John Paul Phelan is the second Junior Minister to backtrack on previous questions after Finian McGrath accepted the jab was a 'very important part' of Government policy

..We have learned that 13 other politicians raised issues with the drug including Fine Gael TDs Phelan, former Ceann Comhairle Sean Barrett and Tony McLoughlin.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/1488740/f...ffects-health/

First, it's not a drug, it's a vaccine. Do you know the difference?

Not going to follow your link to The Sun. But what you are saying if more whataboutery. If other's have expressed crackpot views, does that make this one OK?

Hurrache

CatFromHue wrote: »

Who did that?

There seems to be a massive misunderstanding over what happened in the cervical cancer scandal.

Most other countries don't even disclose the results of false positives/negatives to patients, for the reason we're seeing here in Ireland.

It's a common whataboutery each time someone in SF is criticised since the election. It can be like a kids playground devoid of adult sensibility.

limnam

leck wrote: »

First, it's not a drug, it's a vaccine. Do you know the difference?

Not going to follow your link to The Sun. But what you are saying if more whataboutery. If other's have expressed crackpot views, does that make this one OK?

I didn't call it a drug. I was quoting the post/article

She u-turned.

Like many other TD's

James Brown

leck wrote: »

First, it's not a drug, it's a vaccine. Do you know the difference?

Not going to follow your link to The Sun. But what you are saying if more whataboutery. If other's have expressed crackpot views, does that make this one OK?

TBF it's being pedaled as a SF issue. It loses cachet if it's taken on an individual basis and doesn't help it's use as a party wide springboard.

Hurrache wrote: »

It's a common whataboutery each time someone in SF is criticised since the election. It can be like a kids playground devoid of adult sensibility.

I'm cool with her getting the business and rightly so, but don't try act like there isn't rampant whataboutery from all quarters. I've had more conversations about the troubles while discussing housing and health in the Republic than I'd care to mention. And that's before SF put the wind up FG.

lab man

Boggles wrote:

Surely you would send all the kids to one school.

the 2 schools are in the one parish 2 different townlands about 2 miles apart i dont know if tullycrine school has closed on not but they were there and the kids are passing the main national school in kilrush , alot of ppl that are resettled from dublin that cannot drive but are not in the school bus route have their kids brought by taxi i kid u not ! the parents even get brought from where i live to ennis or kilrush for groceries by taxi u know whos aying too mr. taxpayer

lab man

ger664 wrote:

Tullycrine NS is clsoed and has been for 2-3 years

wasnt sure if it was or not theyare in kilmurry mc mahon so

lab man

leck wrote:

After the Wynne family moved into Kilrush, maybe their children were taxied out to Tullycrine to keep the school numbers up?

she said that the kids were being disrupted by having to go to kilrush school

Carodh

It’s only one school. Full time school amalgamated with another and is now know as Kilmurry McMahon school.

Carodh

Not sure why they would be brought to Ennis to get grocery shopping when there is a Tesco, Aldi & Supervalu in Kilrush.

Martin Lanigan

limnam wrote: »

If TD's were happy to give back hundreds of thousands of falsely claimed expenses maybe FG wouldn't had to have pulled funding from the charity for example.

You mean the 50k worth of printer cartridges that Aengus Ó Snodaigh pilfered?

Hurrache

Martin Lanigan wrote: »

You mean the 50k worth of printer cartridges that Aengus Ó Snodaigh pilfered?

Wolfe Toner.

Several years later he printed over 20,000 leaflets for the 1916 anniversary for his constituents with, with his details all over it.

smurgen

Hurrache wrote: »

Wolfe Toner.

Several years later he printed over 20,000 leaflets for the 1916 anniversary for his constituents with, with his details all over it.

Plenty of FG and FF at it too just so ya know lol.

https://extra.ie/2019/12/23/news/irish-news/printed-leaflets-binned-tds

ShylockWept

blanch152 wrote: »

Our new TD from Clare has a strange history and stranger views it seems.

Firstly, it seems that she is a former anti-vaxxer.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/they-dont-reflect-my-current-view-or-sinn-fein-policy-td-retracts-controversial-hpv-comments-38954563.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/sinn-fein-td-made-attack-on-the-hpv-vaccine-38952559.html

"On Facebook, she compared the dangers posed by the "ingredients" in vaccinations to changing where you buy coffee.

The first-time TD also said the compulsory vaccination of children, which was introduced in Italy, was "medical tyranny""

Mad conspiracy theory stuff from her. She has now retracted it, but as in the case of the SF MEP who had similar mad views, will she refuse to confirm whether her own children have been vaccinated? This type of dangerous nonsense from any of our public representatives just shouldn't happen.

And then there is her history of paying (or rather not paying) rent.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5096652/sinn-fein-violet-anne-wynne-charity-rent-arrears/

When I saw the headline, I was thinking that maybe she was refusing on principle to pay €3,000 a month to some vulture fund. Not at all. She owes €12k to a charity, yes a charity that subsequently went bust due to lack of funding. €63 a week for four years is what she refused to pay!!

This isn't someone without an education surviving on the breadline - she has a degree in psychology. Am I the only one to think that the people of Clare were mad to elect her a TD?

There is a view out there that Sinn Fein are the party of the entitlement class who want everything for nothing and someone else to pay for it. It seems that at least one of their TDs is trying to show the way that can be done.

And what did Eoin O'Broin do this morning when he was asked about it? Attacked the journalist and the newspaper. Shooting the messenger and whataboutery seem to be the standard defence of "new politics".

I am sure that there will be more to come out about this woman but Sinn Fein have shown a strange inability to be out in front of these stories in the last few days.

Its all fake news

We should be discussing the pressing issues - house, health and homelessness

zoobizoo

Hurrache wrote: »

It's a common whataboutery each time someone in SF is criticised since the election. It can be like a kids playground devoid of adult sensibility.

If they don't see anything wrong with the murder of innocent citizens, they'll hardly be too worried about much else their fellow party members have done.

SafeSurfer

ShylockWept wrote: »

Its all fake news

We should be discussing the pressing issues - house, health and homelessness

A member for literally a wet week telling posters what they should be discussing?

Back to Parnell Square with you.