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The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

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    #1382
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    feargale wrote: »
    This is the problem:

    "Interesting Character Mr. Connolly

    Looks like he didn't care too much about his loyal staff."

    Those words were not used at the hearing, not even by the unsuccessful party whom you are fond of quoting. Show me where anybody at the hearing described Mr McDonough as loyal or where anybody said that Jim Connolly didn't care about his staff. You are portraying an unsuccessful action as being successful, and you
    are selectively quoting the party who was found to have no case. I wouldn't even dignify your tactics by describing them as half-truths. Your honesty in this is worthy of the Shinners who were never in the IRA and of the snake oil salesmen who bummed money from armchair gunmen in New York while describing themselves as being a "business friendly" party.
    Now go and attend to your "clap."

    18 years would show loyalty.

    Isolating a loyal member of staff and speaking to them in that way wouldn't show a man who was treated well.

    Not sure what's wrong with you.

    They're quotes.

    It's not made up


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    #1383
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    limnam wrote: »
    We got to Hitler.


    *clap clap*

    I am not surprised that you are uncomfortable with references to Hitler given SF/IRA's record as Hitler's Fellow Travellers.


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    #1384
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,845 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    limnam wrote: »
    18 years would show loyalty.

    Isolating a loyal member of staff and speaking to them in that way wouldn't show a man who was treated well.

    Not sure what's wrong with you.

    They're quotes.

    It's not made up


    Sure I heard that he once went to the jacks in a pub while drunk and pissed all over the seat.*

    What relevance that has to yer wan brazenly ripping of a charity that had been trying to help her and others like her, is the same relevance as an ex employee being loyal or not has.

    deflect deflect deflect. It's actually quite hilarious.


    *may not have happened


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    #1385
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    limnam wrote: »
    18 years would show loyalty.

    Isolating a loyal member of staff and speaking to them in that way wouldn't show a man who was treated well.

    Not sure what's wrong with you.

    They're quotes.

    It's not made up

    Here you go backtracking again. You keep saying that your words are somebody else's words, while inserting words of your own and offering your own interpretation to try to blacken Jim Connolly. It's not working other than with morons who see no evil in SF/IRA. I keep telling you: hand over to somebody like the editor of An Phoblacht.

    More dishonesty, worthy of those who collected dollars "for prisoners" and then spent them on guns.

    Now address all the other points I have made, the ones you have neatly skipped. Or else acknowledge that you have come to this thread to defend the indefensible and go with your tail between your legs.


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    #1386
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    feargale wrote: »

    Now address all the other points I have made, the ones you have neatly skipped. Or else acknowledge that you have come to this thread to defend the indefensible and go with your tail between your legs.

    It's like dealing with a drunken uncle

    Shouting out random shiote like "guns" "hitler" "RA!"

    If you have a few coherent thoughts, put them together and we can have a chat.

    Jim's a sound man. Grand. It doesn't get us anywhere.


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    #1387
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    limnam wrote: »
    It's like dealing with a drunken uncle

    Or a nephew with clap.
    limnam wrote: »
    IShouting out random shiote like "guns" "hitler" "RA!"

    Not shouting. I leave that to Ellis and Cullinane.
    Of course it's ok to constantly refer to FG as "the blueshirts" but not to call SF/IRA Hitler's Fellow Travellers (Sean Russell etc etc) Ah no, Russell and co. are in the past, but not the blueshirts, just as it's ok to talk about the Black and Tans, the Famine, Cromwell ( and I've even read one or two whinging about the Plantations), but when it comes to 1969-1997 and the IRA's atrocities "we must move on."

    limnam wrote: »
    If you have a few coherent thoughts, put them together and we can have a chat.

    You've lost it, boy. Move on.
    limnam wrote: »
    Jim's a sound man. Grand. It doesn't get us anywhere.

    So, you've finally totally backtracked. Now what on earth are you doing here? Because your whole raison d'etre has been Jim Connolly's calumniously alleged shortcomings and other whatabouteries


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    #1388
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    limnam wrote: »
    People want competent TD's sure. But then again they re-elected Simon Harris. :)


    The man that brought us. Cervical cancer scandal.

    Scandal? The only scandal there is how the likes of your beloved SF, aided and abetted by the media, seized on some poor public service management and whipped Mná na hEireann up into paroxysms of needless fear and doubt. No more Harris's fault that yours.


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    #1389
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,167 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    limnam wrote: »
    She could lose her seat. Or she could walk it as most people don't seem to really care too much especially with the lack of options on that card.


    Who knows, maybe they'll get more seats there.


    People want competent TD's sure. But then again they re-elected Simon Harris. :)


    The man that brought us. Cervical cancer scandal.


    Child chemo cancellations


    member that guy ?


    Back in.

    You've mentioned the Cervical Cancer scandal a few times now. Can you explain what happened?


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    #1390
    Lockstep
    Registered Users Posts: 9,030 ✭✭✭Lockstep


    Limnam, are you Violet Anne Wynne's mam or something?

    You've devoted an incredible amount of time defending her or trying to deflect any criticism.


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    #1391
    donaghs
    Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭donaghs


    jimwallace197 wrote: »
    Its quite clear the media have an agenda against Sinn Fein, picking out comments on social media of all things. So what if her previous views are strange or at odds with how the majority think, its how she performs in office that counts.

    ....

    It's what you do in office that counts, and going by how the last government acted, its no surprise the electorate had enough even if the heavily biased media don't agree

    So what if they're nuts, lets see how they perform in office. ? :confused:


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    #1392
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    You've mentioned the Cervical Cancer scandal a few times now. Can you explain what happened?

    Lynn Ni Riadh and Violet-Anne Wynn told people not to take the HPV vaccine, people got cancer and died, is that the scandal?


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    #1393
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    She was interviewed on clare fm this morning didn’t phase her one bit about not paying the rent , she had that was it !

    Every excuse the water they couldn’t drink cost them money , the kids were sick the husband was sick and the car kept breaking down !

    Luckily her husband’s libido stayed working as it was only work they had conceiving children !

    It was questioned by the listeners that her private life should not be public ! I guess that was u Limnam ! Lol


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    #1394
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Lynn Ni Riadh and Violet-Anne Wynn told people not to take the HPV vaccine, people got cancer and died, is that the scandal?

    She has now answered it on clare fm this morning it is wrong not to have the vaccine! Hmmm
    She’s a Bit all the over the place I think !


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    #1395
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Millionaire only not wrote: »

    It was questioned by the listeners that her private life should not be public ! I guess that was u Limnam ! Lol


    LOL :rolleyes:


    Well Leo has asked for details around his illegal drug use to be kept private.


    I guess if it's good enough for Leo....


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    #1396
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Lynn Ni Riadh and Violet-Anne Wynn told people not to take the HPV vaccine, people got cancer and died, is that the scandal?


    Sure they had company of FG TD also :)


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    #1397
    limnam
    Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Millionaire only not wrote: »
    She has now answered it on clare fm this morning it is wrong not to have the vaccine! Hmmm
    She’s a Bit all the over the place I think !


    A number of TD's have backtracked. Including FG.


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    #1398
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    limnam wrote: »
    Sure they had company of FG TD also :)
    limnam wrote: »
    A number of TD's have backtracked. Including FG.

    I would not defend anyone who said the vaccine was unsafe and shouldn't be taken. But you are defending one such person.


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    #1399
    Zulu
    Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    He's back!!! :)


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    #1400
    Boggles
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    blanch152 wrote: »
    I would not defend anyone who said the vaccine was unsafe and shouldn't be taken. But you are defending one such person.

    Did she say it was unsafe and should not be taken?

    I thought she was more pointing out the Italian policy of mandatory vaccinations she didn't agree with.

    Either way her opinions were when she was a private citizen with very little influence.


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    #1401
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Boggles wrote: »
    Did she say it was unsafe and should not be taken?

    I thought she was more pointing out the Italian policy of mandatory vaccinations she didn't agree with.

    Either way her opinions were when she was a private citizen with very little influence.

    Keep defending anti-vaxxers.

    It might be a good idea to send some anti-vaxxers to Iran and China to help with the medical effort, after all, their herbal teas and natural remedies will ensure that they don't contract the corona virus so they will be fine. Would any of them be up for volunteering for that? Maybe your Violet-Anne could lead the way?


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    #1402
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,230 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Keep defending anti-vaxxers.

    I didn't. I asked you to back up your claim.

    It's how these things work.
    blanch152 wrote: »
    I would not defend anyone who said the vaccine was unsafe and shouldn't be taken.

    So did she or did she not say that?

    As for people who don't vaccinate their kids (unless for medical reasons) I'd change the constitution and make it law that their kids are awarded to the state.

    So we are clear on my position on vaccines.


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    #1403
    feargale
    Registered Users Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Boggles wrote: »
    Either way her opinions were when she was a private citizen with very little influence.

    Was Leo Varadkar not a private citizen when he took illicit drugs? And did he not come straight out clean about it, unlike the "business friendly" people (diesel?) collecting dollars from idiots in NY "for prisoners"?

    She can with impunity make a public statement which has catastrophic implications for humanity, but if a youngster takes a puff it must follow them to eternity.

    One rule for us ordinary folk and a different rule for Hitler's Fellow Travellers.


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    #1404
    leck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭leck


    About what she said regarding vaccines, she blames others. She was just the messenger "I was just relaying those concerns".

    http://www.clare.fm/news/politics/clares-sinn-fein-td-stops-short-saying-regrets-comments-hpv-vaccine/


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    #1405
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,230 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    feargale wrote: »
    Was Leo Varadkar not a private citizen when he took illicit drugs?

    I have no idea, "indulging" in criminality and giving your views on Facebook is not the same thing though is it?

    Either way both are non issues and just nonsense smear ammo.


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    #1406
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,017 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    leck wrote: »
    About what she said regarding vaccines, she blames others. She was just the messenger "I was just relaying those concerns".

    http://www.clare.fm/news/politics/clares-sinn-fein-td-stops-short-saying-regrets-comments-hpv-vaccine/

    Admitted that you're gullible and/or easily led (see Cronin's claims about why she rabbited conspiracy stuff) is admitting you're not suitable to be a public representative


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    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    L1011 wrote: »
    Admitted that you're gullible and/or easily led (see Cronin's claims about why she rabbited conspiracy stuff) is admitting you're not suitable to be a public representative

    Be nice if more politicians admitted they were wrong and tried to move on.


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    #1408
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Boggles wrote: »
    I didn't. I asked you to back up your claim.

    It's how these things work.



    So did she or did she not say that?

    As for people who don't vaccinate their kids (unless for medical reasons) I'd change the constitution and make it law that their kids are awarded to the state.

    So we are clear on my position on vaccines.

    You are a borderline anti-vaxxer now. Have you been called a Shinner yet?


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    #1409
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 69,017 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Bowie wrote: »
    Be nice if more politicians admitted they were wrong and tried to move on.

    But she didn't.

    She's trying to deflect blame on to someone else, with her as a gullible conduit for it. Its the worst of both.


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    #1410
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bowie wrote: »
    Be nice if more politicians admitted they were wrong and tried to move on.

    She didn't admit she was wrong, she admitted she was a fool and an idiot.

    There was no sense from her that it won't happen again.


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    #1411
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 40,230 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    leck wrote: »
    About what she said regarding vaccines, she blames others. She was just the messenger "I was just relaying those concerns".

    http://www.clare.fm/news/politics/clares-sinn-fein-td-stops-short-saying-regrets-comments-hpv-vaccine/

    That quote doesn't appear anywhere in your link.

    :confused:


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