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The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    limnam wrote: »
    Wait.

    If SF rules are avg ind wage.

    She' getting 40k?

    One lot of you are saying she's getting avg ind wage. Won't lose out on giving the 8k

    The other lot are sayng she's on 96k+ so she would have benifited from the 8k she gave back to the state

    Which is it?

    I am saying she can afford to pay her debts but chooses not to


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    A TDs salary is 96k. I don’t know what she does with that income (apart from not paying her debts).

    What was yer woman called who ran in the presidential election? Didn’t she harp on about getting an industrial wage and it turned out what she was saying was bull****?

    Oh it could very well be BS.

    But there was lads here yesterday stating everyone and thier granny knows the money goes to SF. I was called a source bore when asking for evidence.

    Now you're saying that could be BS.

    There's a lot of BS going around lads. A lot of BS.

    Can you have chat among yourselves. Pick a line you's want to take and stick to it so we don't chop and change the rules.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    I am saying she can afford to pay her debts but chooses not to

    If the line anti SF posters yesterdays were claiming she'll only get avg ind wage which is 40k

    With 5 kids etc

    Then your statement wouldn't hold true :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    I don’t know which but does it matter? She owes money, pay it back. Why does it have to be one lump sum. Pay it back by whatever she can. Like anybody else in the country would have to.

    Do they?

    How many mortgage defaulters were there between 2006 and 2018?

    Far from everyone pays back what they owe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Say it aint so Violet


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    limnam wrote: »
    Do they?

    How many mortgage defaulters were there between 2006 and 2018?

    Far from everyone pays back what they owe.

    Did she default? Nearly feel like saying did you default given how passionate you are about it.


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    limnam wrote: »
    Wait.

    If SF rules are avg ind wage.

    She' getting 40k?

    One lot of you are saying she's getting avg ind wage. Won't lose out on giving the 8k

    The other lot are sayng she's on 96k+ so she would have benifited from the 8k she gave back to the state

    Which is it?

    If you read the link I’ve already provided, they are no longer expected to take the average industrial wage. As her partner doesn’t work and they’ve got a lot of kids, she can keep the lot. Plus huge expenses.

    It might be a good idea if you take some time out and do some research. Or just go for a walk. Or spring clean a room, cut grass, spray weeds, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    limnam wrote: »
    Oh it could very well be BS.

    But there was lads here yesterday stating everyone and thier granny knows the money goes to SF. I was called a source bore when asking for evidence.

    Now you're saying that could be BS.

    There's a lot of BS going around lads. A lot of BS.

    Can you have chat among yourselves. Pick a line you's want to take and stick to it so we don't chop and change the rules.

    The only thing we know for certain is that she didn't pay her debts and let a charity go out of business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The only thing we know for certain is that she didn't pay her debts and let a charity go out of business.

    Plus by not paying made sure other people stayed on the street


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,722 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    limnam wrote: »
    Wait.

    If SF rules are avg ind wage.

    She' getting 40k?

    One lot of you are saying she's getting avg ind wage. Won't lose out on giving the 8k

    The other lot are sayng she's on 96k+ so she would have benifited from the 8k she gave back to the state

    Which is it?

    I could be wrong but think SF take the full wage and use the rest to employ pa, constituency offices etc.

    Whatever way it works they don't just claim 40k from exchequer.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,586 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Also, not all TDs need take average industrial wage.

    “ For years, Sinn Féin TDs claimed to take the average industrial wage, which is currently around €40,000.


    Two years ago, the party loosened this policy.

    However, Mr Tóibín said Sinn Féin TDs could always make cases to retain their full salary.

    "They definitely did make exceptions around personal circumstance and there was flexibility around it, but in the main it was adhered to up until a couple of years ago and then they started to review it," he said.

    The Meath West TD said the salary policy "didn't make sense" because in some instances party members could not afford to send their children to third-level education as they did not qualify for grants because their official salary was €96,189 per year.”
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/sf-made-exceptions-on-average-industrial-wage-policy-to-allow-some-tds-to-draw-full-salary-claims-toibin-38905914.html

    Just another point on this one.

    They are NOT being paid the average industrial wage - They are taking the average industrial wage NET , not Gross.

    So the take home is ~40k (38k I think is the actual figure) , which is FAR in excess of the take home of someone actually on the Average Industrial wage. And that's before they add the healthy expenses on top of that.

    What they chose to do with their money is up to them , but this canard of "Average Industrial wage" is a 100% con-job to make them appear more connected with their target voter demographic.

    Also it's not like they are donating all the money to charity - They are spending it on party activities to help get candidates elected.

    So , the average Independent TD is doing exactly the same - Spending their own money on clinics etc. etc. , they are just not trying to pretend that they are altruistically living on the average industrial wage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    blanch152 wrote: »
    The only thing we know for certain is that she didn't pay her debts and let a charity go out of business.

    FG pulling funding had more impact

    If one person falling behind could cause it go go out of business there was no business in the first place


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Plus by not paying made sure other people stayed on the street

    If only there was a government providing housing.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    If you read the link I’ve already provided, they are no longer expected to take the average industrial wage. As her partner doesn’t work and they’ve got a lot of kids, she can keep the lot. Plus huge expenses.

    Oh I know.

    Hence her giving back 8k to the state is money she would have gained from.

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    Did she default? Nearly feel like saying did you default given how passionate you are about it.

    And you would be very original to do so.

    You wouldn't be the first gob****e to call me Violet :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    limnam wrote: »
    And you would be very original to do so.

    You wouldn't be the first gob****e to call me Violet :)

    hi violet :D:D

    give that money back yet ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    hi violet :D:D

    give that money back yet ?

    You're a legend Jeff. A true legend.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    limnam wrote: »
    You're a legend Jeff. A true legend.


    I know .


    so no then on the money ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    I know .


    so no then on the money ?

    Why don't you put the effort into getting some real money back

    Padraig Shine. FG candidate took a state subsidy of 42k per yer and didn't pay rent on a building he contracted.

    Not to mention the other 200k of state funded money he squandered.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    limnam wrote: »
    Why don't you put the effort into getting some real money back

    Padraig Shine. FG candidate took a state subsidy of 42k per yer and didn't pay rent on a building he contracted.

    Not to mention the other 200k of state funded money he squandered.

    threads about violets misdeeds , if you want to talk about some other scumbag start a thread about them .

    so no money paid then yet ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    limnam wrote: »
    Wait.

    If SF rules are avg ind wage.

    She' getting 40k?

    One lot of you are saying she's getting avg ind wage. Won't lose out on giving the 8k

    The other lot are sayng she's on 96k+ so she would have benifited from the 8k she gave back to the state

    Which is it?

    Shinners haven’t done the avg industrial wage for nearly 10 years. They all get the full salary


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Shinners haven’t done the avg industrial wage for nearly 10 years. They all get the full salary

    Super news.

    So she would have benefited from the 8k euro she gave back to the state.

    Glad this is all sorted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    limnam wrote: »
    Super news.

    So she would have benefited from the 8k euro she gave back to the state.

    Glad this is all sorted.

    So she can pay back what she’s owes then?

    Glad this is all sorted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Reganio 2 wrote: »
    So she can pay back what she’s owes then?

    Glad this is all sorted.

    Lets hope so

    The 8k euro back to the state is great to see

    Not many TD's with that moral fiber. Could do with more of them :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    limnam wrote: »
    Lets hope so

    The 8k euro back to the state is great to see

    Not many TD's with that moral fiber. Could do with more of them :)

    Pity her moral fiber didn’t stretch as far as paying a measly €63 a week to a housing charity for 6 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Reganio 2


    limnam wrote: »
    Lets hope so

    The 8k euro back to the state is great to see

    Not many TD's with that moral fiber. Could do with more of them :)

    Some spin 😂


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Pity her moral fiber didn’t stretch as far as paying a measly €63 a week to a housing charity for 6 years.

    Hopefully not down to the house not been up to standard.

    Hope the kids were not affected in any way.

    We all make mistakes

    Some cause young women to die of cervical cancer.

    Or stop kids getting chemo

    Some fall behind on their rent.

    I know who I'd rather give a chance to

    And 8k back to the state is a great start


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,965 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    limnam wrote: »
    Hasn't fooled anyone twice (yet)
    True, no one is buying her (or your) bs.
    How long would it take to get 12k up
    Why wait?
    If she was serious, she could take out a loan and repay in full now.
    ...but thats never going to happen.
    To add to that, I don't know if she hasn't paid it
    She hasn't. Count on it. She'd have told us all about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭limnam


    Zulu wrote: »
    True, no one is buying her (or your) bs.

    Good job I'm not selling any.

    Zulu wrote: »
    Why wait?
    If she was serious, she could take out a loan and repay in full now.
    ...but thats never going to happen.

    She hasn't. Count on it. She'd have told us all about it.

    I imagine putting herself into debt to make a donation to a different charity when she has 5 kids and a sick husband etc to support not very savvy.

    But giving back 8k euro back to the state is great to see.

    That will be 32k euro over 4 years if she stays a TD.

    Hopefully whom ever in government can do something decent with it instead of pulling money away from charities providing homes :)


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    limnam wrote: »
    Hopefully not down to the house not been up to standard.

    Hope the kids were not affected in any way.

    We all make mistakes

    Some cause young women to die of cervical cancer.

    Or stop kids getting chemo

    Some fall behind on their rent.

    I know who I'd rather give a chance to

    And 8k back to the state is a great start

    Not much good to the charity whose generosity was abused in such a shameful way.

    Imagine staying for six years and bringing children into an unstable house?

    The rest of your post is rubbish.


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