The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

blanch152

Boggles wrote: »

You asked a specific question.

I gave you an answer.

But credit where credit is due.

She could have easily let the story die down and not pay it back.

Agreed?

I accept that the money was paid to the solicitor of the housing company.

I don’t believe it was paid by her.

limnam

blanch152 wrote: »

Funding was provided on the basis that they would generate income from rental.

A tenant didn’t pay, the rental income wasn’t received, the funding was pulled.

Not the government’s fault, but that of the tenant who didn’t pay.

Based on the simple fact that over 50% of people in council houses are in arrears

You're telling me the government entered an agreement were they would pull funding if one tenent went into arrears ?

They're not very bright are they?

Do you have a source for this nonsense?

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

Yeah after FG pulled funding they went belly up.

FG pulled funding from a housing charity during a housing crisis. :pac:

So how did she "pay it back" then? That was the simple question.



Your attempted deflection is a bit telling.

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

So how did she "pay it back" then? That was the simple question.



Your attempted deflection is a bit telling.

It was paid to the solicitor of the RRI. Read the article...

I imagine it goes to creditors etc

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

It was paid to the solicitor of the RRI. Read the article...

I imagine it goes to creditors etc

I did read the article.


Money was sent from one solicitor to another solicitor. As the organisation does not exist, the money was given to a different charity.



RRI no longer exists. They were not paid back

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

I did read the article.


Money was sent from one solicitor to another solicitor. As the organisation does not exist, the money was given to a different charity.



RRI no longer exists. They were not paid back

They don't exist because FG pulled their funding.

She made a promise.

Promise was kept.

You can word it anyway you want to try and show she didn't

But she did.

Great to see. Very refreshing from a TD.

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

They don't exist because FG pulled their funding.

She made a promise.

Promise was kept.

You can word it anyway you want to try and show she didn't

But she did.

Great to see. Very refreshing from a TD.

We can safely assume that she also made a promise to the charity to pay her rent before stealing from them.

Her paying it back now is like someone after being taken to court to pay a debt owed after being caught stealing from a vulnerable old lady and the court ordering the sheriff to seize property to satisfy it. And then turning around and looking to be thanked for it




Government would have been correct to remove funding from any charity not being run correctly. It would be better to give it to the genuine and competent ones.


Else I could set up a charity to buy houses for homeless. It is relatively easy to set up and register a charity. I could have a plan on paper where I will have the tenants pay rent and the charity become self financing after 5 years. Then get 1m from the the government, buy 5 apartments, put 5 friends into them and tell them not to pay rent. Then come back to the government next year and ask for another 1m "because there is a housing crisis" :pac:

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

Government would have been correct to remove funding from any charity not being run correctly.

Oh,

Why was that?

There was an influx of people here right behind the guy who started it

I hadn't realized he was incompetent.

Explains maybe why the houses were not fit for purpose.

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

Oh,

Why was that?

There was an influx of people here right behind the guy who started it

I hadn't realized he was incompetent.

Explains maybe why the houses were not fit for purpose.

The house was apparently fit enough for squatters to stay in for 6-odd years or however long it was

As for competence of the organisation, all I can say about that is that is they were unable to collect 60 quid a week rent from a couple of wasters

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

The house was apparently fit enough for squatters to stay in for 6-odd years or however long it was

Not good enough for the council to take them back

But 12k put up anyway even though was not fit for purpose

TD's keeping their promises

Refreshing.

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

Not good enough for the council to take them back

But 12k put up anyway even though was not fit for purpose

TD's keeping their promises

Refreshing.

Generally rental contracts or leases don't specify that you "have until the ends of eternity to pay the rent at your own leisure". You are in default of a contract (if you don't know what a contract is, think of it like an agreement or promise written on paper) if you are late by one day with a payment



The fact that she eventually coughed up some money now in some format (or someone else did on her behalf ........ perhaps as an election or PR expense) is evidence that she knows she should have paid it all along.


As for the council taking the house "back" .... do you mean after having tenants in there for a few years making shite of the place

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

As for the council taking the house "back" .... do you mean after having tenants in there for a few years making shite of the place

None of the RRI houses met council standards so they couldn't take them.

I don't recall mention of any damage to any of the houses.

Watching the desperation here after all the "has she paid it back yet posts"

Very telling :pac:

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

None of the RRI houses met council standards so they couldn't take them.

I don't recall mention of any damage to any of the houses.

Watching the desperation here after all the "has she paid it back yet posts"

Very telling :pac:

She hasn't paid it back though. Someone (maybe her, maybe not) sent an equivalent amount of money to a solicitor to be given to a different charity. If I break into your house and steal 100 quid you have lying around, me sending 100 quid to a charity 10 years later will not have paid you back.


As for damage to the house - it was fine for the first year or so - no? Rent paid on time. Seems like something happened in that time to make it not habitable (by Ms Wynnes story). Perhaps Enda Kenny went down with a sledgehammer in the middle of the night and made shite of the place for the craic?


You obviously have some connection with her (or else your particular tastes extend to being infatuated with her somehow).
Given that, it is kinda funny how you keep the thread alive. If you left it alone and said nothing, it'd drift off the front page here in about 3 or 4 hours and be forgotten about.

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

it is kinda funny how you keep the thread alive. If you left it alone and said nothing, it'd drift off the front page here in about 3 or 4 hours and be forgotten about.

I'm more than happy to keep it alive

I didn't know half the stuff FF/FG got up to until reading this thread it's been very enlightening :pac:

All it's done for Violet is show she'll keep a promise. So rare in TD's today

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

I'm more than happy to keep it alive

I didn't know half the stuff FF/FG got up to until reading this thread it's been very enlightening :pac:

All it's done for Violet is show she'll keep a promise. So rare in TD's today

haha. You're a funny guy.


"Rips off a charity" = "keeps a promise" in your books



The only one obsessed with, or mentioning FF/FG is yourself. Oh, well I mentioned about Enda going down with the sledgehammer to wreck her place but that might have been tongue-in-cheek but you are free to believe it if you want

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

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The only one obsessed with, or mentioning FF/FG is yourself.

Ah stop now, there was pages and pages of whataboutery on FF/FG a lot of it didn't come from me.

Was very educational.

Lets hope TD's promising not to get behind the wheel of a car putting peoples lives at risk can keep them

Much more important issues out there.

Donald Trump

This was probably linked to before but in case anyone needs a refresher

https://extra.ie/2020/02/16/news/politics/violet-anne-wynne-rent-charity

Some informative quotes in there obtained from the court filings. Evidence of correspondence of the charity pleading with them to pay for years and years before finally having to evict them.

It also notes that the arrears of over 12k were up to June 2016 only but that she did not leave until 2017.

I'd imagine that the legal fees involved in evicting them far surpassed 12k!

limnam

And kept her promise of paying the 12k

Great to see from a TD.

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

And kept her promise of paying the 12k

Great to see from a TD.

haha.

"Small sum paid to a charity on TD's behalf after she scams different charity for almost a decade"


What did you think of Maria Bailey? Given that she didn't actually even rip anyone off - she had just set the wheels in motion for a big claim that she withdrew. Would you likewise say "great to see from a TD"?

I wouldn't

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

What did you think of Maria Bailey?
I wouldn't

Just after you stated I'm the only one who brings FF/FG up you bring her up

The desperation is real.

As I said TD made a promise. Stuck to it. So rare.

Then she's out doing her job and people try have another go.

Come off it.

Fair play to her.

ThunbergsAreGo

limnam wrote: »

Just after you stated I'm the only one who brings FF/FG up you bring her up

The desperation is real.

As I said TD made a promise. Stuck to it. So rare.

Then she's out doing her job and people try have another go.

Come off it.

Fair play to her.

Thats a very low standard you have.

TD gets caught drink driving
TD promises to apologise
TD apologises

Would be great to see apparently. I would rather my TDs didn't commit crimes in the first place.

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

Just after you stated I'm the only one who brings FF/FG up you bring her up

The desperation is real.

As I said TD made a promise. Stuck to it. So rare.

Then she's out doing her job and people try have another go.

Come off it.

Fair play to her.

Fair play to Maria Bailey?


Hey, that's your opinion and if you want to say that then at least you are consistent.



I suppose you are equally a fan of Dara Calleary. :pac:

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

Fair play to Maria Bailey?


Hey, that's your opinion and if you want to say that then at least you are consistent.



I suppose you are equally a fan of Dara Calleary. :pac:

Fair play to Violet

She was out doing her job and people came in here to kick dirt.

As the norm.

Ended in their faces as there was more talk about FG/FF shenanigans

Donald Trump

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Thats a very low standard you have.

TD gets caught drink driving
TD promises to apologise
TD apologises

Would be great to see apparently. I would rather my TDs didn't commit crimes in the first place.

VAW scammed the housing charity.

Said she would not pay.
Got evicted
Got elected.
Got outed.
After pressure was put on her then she said she'd pay money

A similar sum of money was sent to a different charity on her behalf.
Fair play to VAW for keeping her word!



Phil Hogan broke guidelines
Said he would not resign
Sent back to Europe
Outed in papers. Pressure put on
Said he would resign
Did actually resign and kept his "promise" to do so

Fair play to PH for keeping his word!


The bar is apparently set very low for some :pac:

Donald Trump

limnam wrote: »

Fair play to Violet

She was out doing her job and people came in here to kick dirt.

As the norm.

Ended in their faces as there was more talk about FG/FF shenanigans

Yeah, but as much as it pains you, you can't complain about the bould Maria apparently trying to scam people right after lauding VAW for actually doing it

VAW ripped off a charity. That is clear and a court judgement. She did not pay them what she owed

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

Yeah, but as much as it pains you, you can't complain about the bould Maria apparently trying to scam people right after lauding VAW for actually doing it

VAW ripped off a charity. That is clear and a court judgement. She did not pay them what she owed

You can have a look in the Maria thread.

You won't find me there.

limnam

Donald Trump wrote: »

That is clear and a court judgement. She did not pay them what she owed

How much was the judgement for?

JohnnyFlash

Is Violet a bit of a ‘Howya’?

limnam

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Thats a very low standard you have.

TD gets caught drink driving
TD promises to apologise
TD apologises

Would be great to see apparently. I would rather my TDs didn't commit crimes in the first place.

It's not a standard.

It's just very rare for a TD to follow through on a promise. No one here thought she would. She did.

Some credit is due. Doesn't mean she's going to be a great TD or that even given the opportunity I'd vote for her.

Credit where it's due.

limnam

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Is Violet a bit of a ‘Howya’?

I think you've alluded to this before and I'm not sure why.

Why does it matter?

Coming from the editor of the I had a shiote beside an employee in work thread


You answered your own question already

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113163991