Corona virus in waterford

OhToBeByTheSea

alibab wrote: »

And retired staff yes . To be honest it was just given out in no order with paramedics etc being a after thought if we have any to spare . Meanwhile residential homes have to wait for there’s . They could have easily offered it to staff to come in from these areas . There are admin staff who do not work in anyway with patients getting the Vacination when staff in care homes waiting in some cases till the end of the month . This does not make any sense .

Distribution of the vaccine was not decided on by staff in the hospitals or staff in the residential homes or nursing homes, that came from the government and high up HSE and NPHET officials. If you don't agree with how it was distributed, you'd have to take that up with those in charge of it.

All staff in the hospital, including admin staff, come into contact with patients. There are no staff members, including admin staff, who don't interact with patients and other staff members every day.

Asdfgh2020

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Distribution of the vaccine was not decided on by staff in the hospitals or staff in the residential homes or nursing homes, that came from the government and high up HSE and NPHET officials. If you don't agree with how it was distributed, you'd have to take that up with those in charge of it.

All staff in the hospital, including admin staff, come into contact with patients. There are no staff members, including admin staff, who don't interact with patients and other staff members every day.

Everyone is not just a virus expert but also now a vaccine one plus vaccination procurement and distribution specialist.......and in case we forget all our Public servants and senior HSE staff are incompetent buffoons....

FishOnABike

NovemberWren wrote: »

How do they know that it wasn't a success. With so many pharmaceutical companies who will manufacture the vaccine - is that to an ubiquitous single patent.

Who knows, for some Groups, they could be water and glucose. And have no effect.
Different vaccine for other Groups could be not tested enough.

There's a very thorough and rigorous regulatory process that any medicinal product has to go through before it is approved for use and after that approval, in use, to ensure it is safe and effective and consistent.

There isn't one vaccine, there are multiple vaccines, each with their own patents. Each of the pharmaceutical companies have developed their own product each of which has to go through the full regulatory approval process.

The BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine, which we are currently using, has been approved with other companies products also coming through the approval process and expected to be available shortly.

The GSK product was not found to be effective in over 50s and is being reformulated. This new product will then have to go through the samefull rigorous regulatory process and trials before (hopefully) being approved for use.

That same regulatory process ensures the product you receive is consistent through obsessive levels of quality control and safety checks right through the manufacturing, distribution and end use (your vaccination).

Every step in the process is controlled and documented to guarantee what you get is what you expect (your vaccine and not glucose solution) and it has been manufactured and handled to a consistent and approved process throughout.

tbayers

Asdfgh2020 wrote: »

Everyone is not just a virus expert but also now a vaccine one plus vaccination procurement and distribution specialist.......and in case we forget all our Public servants and senior HSE staff are incompetent buffoons....

We are in this mess because of (some) senior HSE staff and mis management of public money. With the money we spend on health we should be performing much better. Thats off topic slightly.

Waterford numbers in hospital have increased dramatically in last 24 hours. Hopefully we are hitting peak, how much more covid patients can it handle?

Aquos76

UHW have started vaccinating local GP practices since this afternoon. I personally know a number of people who got a call to head out their this afternoon. My own wife was vaccinated in Whitfield yesterday, she works for a consultant out there, and as has been pointed out already, many clerical staff come into contact with patients on a daily basis too.

Regardless of whether this is right or wrong, let’s be honest here, how many of us would turn down the opportunity if we were given it, and I’m not talking about anti-vaxers here.

The Continental Op

Aquos76 wrote: »

UHW have started vaccinating local GP practices since this afternoon. I personally know a number of people who got a call to head out their this afternoon. My own wife was vaccinated in Whitfield yesterday, she works for a consultant out there, and as has been pointed out already, many clerical staff come into contact with patients on a daily basis too.

Regardless of whether this is right or wrong, let’s be honest here, how many of us would turn down the opportunity if we were given it, and I’m not talking about anti-vaxers here.

As far as I'm concerned the vaccine isn't just to stop people catching Covid its also to help stop people spreading it so the more people who are vaccinated that come in contact with a lot of other people the better.

spookwoman

HSE Op rport for 8pm yesterday

43 in hospital +6
6 in icu +1

Aquos76

Wait for it, 514 cases recorded in Waterford this evening

spookwoman

4th from the top Overtaken dublin cork donegal Wexford.

Gael23

Anyone know where they are coming from?

spookwoman

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone know where they are coming from?

Local reporter say some in nursing homes and factories and households.
Waterford is very good for keeping information to itself.

Aquos76

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone know where they are coming from?

Obviously without anything to back this up, it’s merely just his opinion, but that’s the problem, if there are outbreaks in places, they aren’t obliged to tell us

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1347957055081107457

OhToBeByTheSea

Are we sure the backlog has definitely been cleared? That number genuinely gave me a fright!

Aquos76

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Are we sure the backlog has definitely been cleared? That number genuinely gave me a fright!

I’ve asked the same question and all the journalists can go on is what was said during the week at the hse press conference, I’m skeptical myself to be honest.

OhToBeByTheSea

Aquos76 wrote: »

I’ve asked the same question and all the journalists can go on is what was said during the week at the hse press conference, I’m skeptical myself to be honest.

It just seems like a massive jump, especially considering that they said that they weren't going to test close contacts while they were working through the backlog so, either they're still working through the backlog or they've started testing close contacts again and we're seeing the results of Christmas and New Year socialising.

Flow Motion

Aquos76 wrote: »

I’ve asked the same question and all the journalists can go on is what was said during the week at the hse press conference, I’m skeptical myself to be honest.

Regardless of how the figures are compiled it's a huge number for the locality. There's no getting away from that fact. We are still in the surge at present. Hopefully the hospital won't begin to see the effects of this in the week's to come.

Aquos76

Aquos76 wrote: »

Obviously without anything to back this up, it’s merely just his opinion, but that’s the problem, if there are outbreaks in places, they aren’t obliged to tell us

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1347957055081107457

Large tent out at aibp/old clover meat plant on thursday/friday for mass testing anyway.


I cant speculate for anywhere else

Asdfgh2020

tbayers wrote: »

We are in this mess because of (some) senior HSE staff and mis management of public money. With the money we spend on health we should be performing much better. Thats off topic slightly.

Waterford numbers in hospital have increased dramatically in last 24 hours. Hopefully we are hitting peak, how much more covid patients can it handle?

The mess we are in has more to do with Moronic/selfish people who can’t comply with the most basic of instructions....which has been preached to us relentlessly Since this virus crisis commenced......what part of ‘limit social contacts’ can’t people understand

Flow Motion

In times of darkness turn to have humour.
From Father Ted :
"Is there anything to be said for saying another mass?"

91wx763

Flow Motion wrote: »

In times of darkness turn to have humour.
From Father Ted :
"Is there anything to be said for saying another mass?"

Certainly not a funeral mass, too many fools will still turn up despite being told not to. Time to stop putting times on the radio and the rip.ie website. The undertakers should say a recording of the service will be broadcast at a certain time.

spookwoman

91wx763 wrote: »

Certainly not a funeral mass, too many fools will still turn up despite being told not to. Time to stop putting times on the radio and the rip.ie website. The undertakers should say a recording of the service will be broadcast at a certain time.

Lot of funerals now being broadcast live. Family friend died few months back(non covid related) and it was broadcast on the internet. Older people might not be into that or have broadband to watch so it's really up to the priest and others to police the funerals.

jimbojazz

If it’s anything to go by, the testing centre was chocker block all week

Aquos76

jimbojazz wrote: »

If it’s anything to go by, the testing centre was chocker block all week

Thankfully it seems to have quietened down a bit today then,

https://twitter.com/ShelleyP82/status/1347962785976766465?s=20

jimbojazz

Aquos76 wrote: »

Thankfully it seems to have quietened down a bit today then,

https://twitter.com/ShelleyP82/status/1347962785976766465?s=20

I live quiet near and went by two or three times today, around 11am and at around 2pm, both times there was at least 6-7 cars there, depends what time she got tested I suppose

Wanderer2010

I wonder is there an element of scare-mongering in the recent announcements by the HSE and the government, with dramatic and attention-seeking headlines like "Winter of Hell ahead" and "There will be enormous damage to society if we dont act NOW!" etc etc.

Now, we all know a significant percentage of people are just stupid. Base stupidity and ignorant, and unable to comprehend anything outside their own little head. They exist in all countries, jobs and communities. But just like Leo last March trying to scare us with figures of 15000 bandied about to force us to comply, and that worked. Nearly a year on, pandemic fatigue is well settled and the large percentage of people who simply wont stay 2 metres apart or follow any guidelines need a sharper shock. There is a sense of inconsistency to some of these headlines. A few days ago, we were on the brink of being overrun by these new strains and now they are saying they expect the virus to peak this week. Last year, headlines screamed that ICU beds would run out if we got a third wave. And now there is an agreement with private hospitals to supply an overflow of beds and staff.

I wonder how much marketing is involved before these public speeches by Micheal or from NPHET? Im sure they look at all the facts and find a way to incorporate some danger into the wording, so they can try and chip away at the retards who wont follow any advice. Surely there is some of that from these experts.

zerosugarbuzz

Asdfgh2020 wrote: »

The mess we are in has more to do with Moronic/selfish people who can’t comply with the most basic of instructions....which has been preached to us relentlessly Since this virus crisis commenced......what part of ‘limit social contacts’ can’t people understand

I would guess that it is the, Limit, part. Or. maybe they understand it they just dont like it.

NovemberWren

tbayers wrote: »

We are in this mess because of (some) senior HSE staff and mis management of public money. With the money we spend on health we should be performing much better. Thats off topic slightly.

Waterford numbers in hospital have increased dramatically in last 24 hours. Hopefully we are hitting peak, how much more covid patients can it handle?

There may be no mis-management of money at all in the health sector.

Every euro spent on the creation of more highly-paid careers is well-spent; and may give returns to the Government in the form of Votes.

NovemberWren

spookwoman wrote: »

Lot of funerals now being broadcast live. Family friend died few months back(non covid related) and it was broadcast on the internet. Older people might not be into that or have broadband to watch so it's really up to the priest and others to police the funerals.

The campus of WRH seems to have a lot of space and some buildings or even pre-fabricated places seem oft-times sparsely staffed.

Yesterday, it seemed odd that the Catholic? church was being used to administer Covid vaccinations.

Some people have said that this Covid-19 virus has come from China and that the devastating effect on the economy [not in the short or medium term], but in the longer-term, will be the economy of communism.
Odd? then that the Catholic Church acquiesced to their Church helping this. ?

Asdfgh2020

jimbojazz wrote: »

If it’s anything to go by, the testing centre was chocker block all week

There are others that said the kilcohan Centre was very quite...? How long did you stay there making the assessment...was it a casual glance as you passed by a few times or did you park up outside it with a clip board and do a count for an hour or two and then extrapolate our to get an average for a day....?

Asdfgh2020

NovemberWren wrote: »

The campus of WRH seems to have a lot of space and some buildings or even pre-fabricated places seem oft-times sparsely staffed.

Yesterday, it seemed odd that the Catholic? church was being used to administer Covid vaccinations.

Some people have said that this Covid-19 virus has come from China and that the devastating effect on the economy [not in the short or medium term], but in the longer-term, will be the economy of communism.
Odd? then that the Catholic Church acquiesced to their Church helping this. ?

You will have to explain your self a bit more. I’ve no idea what you are trying to say there.....what has the administration of a virus in a church premises to save lives got to do with the Chinese communist government.....?