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Corona virus in waterford

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    #2162
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭aziz


    spookwoman wrote: »
    another 7 in waterford today

    I have a bad feeling that tomorrow the numbers could be horrific,just hope I'm wrong


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    #2163
    jimbojazz
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    spookwoman wrote: »
    another 7 in waterford today

    Hopefully not because of the usual weekend lull, tomorrow will be interesting, the numbers for Waterford seem to have stabilised over the last few days, but the soundings coming out from the government seem to be stating otherwise.


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    #2164
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭aziz


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Not too bad tbh

    I think we only need 7 and over to be knocked down a level


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    #2165
    jimbojazz
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    aziz wrote: »
    I think we only need 7 and over to be knocked down a level

    That's possible, but they also look at the previous two weeks, bear in mind also, Dawn Meats were only tested Friday, so in all likelihood those cases if any wont have been released yet.

    I've also heard of an outbreak in a local sportswear supplier, won't be too hard to work out where! For Suree!;)


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    #2166
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    jimbojazz wrote: »
    bear in mind also, Dawn Meats were only tested Friday, so in all likelihood those cases if any wont have been released yet.

    A lot of dawn meats staff would have been tested (in Granagh anyway) over the last 2 weeks. It's not like they did almost 400 tests on Friday last.

    But as has been said, doesn't take too many cases to keep our "cases per 100,000" number above what's needed to push us to level 3.


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    #2167
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,445 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    kuang1 wrote: »
    A lot of dawn meats staff would have been tested (in Granagh anyway) over the last 2 weeks. It's not like they did almost 400 tests on Friday last.

    But as has been said, doesn't take too many cases to keep our "cases per 100,000" number above what's needed to push us to level 3.

    its granny, ffs!


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    #2168
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1308085019169239046?s=20


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    #2169
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its granny, ffs!

    Agus as gaeilge?


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    #2170
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,387 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    aziz wrote: »
    I think we only need 7 and over to be knocked down a level

    ****ing crazy


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    #2171
    jimbojazz
    Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭jimbojazz


    kuang1 wrote: »
    A lot of dawn meats staff would have been tested (in Granagh anyway) over the last 2 weeks. It's not like they did almost 400 tests on Friday last.

    But as has been said, doesn't take too many cases to keep our "cases per 100,000" number above what's needed to push us to level 3.

    Fair enough, thought I read here they were done Friday


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    #2172
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    674 positive swabs over the weekend, only 188 cases today, there's a huge number coming tomorrow on all fronts.


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    #2173
    Sprites
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its granny, ffs!

    Its Grannagh!!


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    #2174
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,445 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    its granny, ffs!

    nannie!
    Sprites wrote: »
    Its Grannagh!!

    feck off now you, this is waterford, tis granny!


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    #2175
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭reni10


    What are they not telling us about why meat factory workers are getting covid much more than any other people?

    I want to know why and what are they doing to prevent it?

    It all seems so cloak and dagger about it, explain properly to people why these workers have been infected and how to stop it!


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    #2176
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,445 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    reni10 wrote: »
    What are they not telling us about why meat factory workers are getting covid much more than any other people?

    I want to know why and what are they doing to prevent it?

    It all seems so cloak and dagger about it, explain properly to people why these workers have been infected and how to stop it!

    possible due to the poor working practices in the sector, they may not want to open a can of worms, possibly exposing of particular industries, it is a fairly important food sector, after all, strongly protected industry, including the farming sector.........


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    #2177
    jopax
    Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭jopax


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t read to much into schools expecting to stay open in all stages, if stage 4 becomes a thing, then most people will keep their kids out of school themselves

    I agree there, I know Mehole came out & stated that schools would still be open even at level 5.
    However I was listening to Mcglynn the other evening & a reporter actually asked him that.
    He stated that it would depend on the situation & seriousness of things at that stage. He said he wouldn't rule anything out as we don't know what's ahead.
    At least he seems to be more honest & realistic than Mehole. Mixed messages all the time.


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    #2178
    jopax
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    jimbojazz wrote: »
    That's possible, but they also look at the previous two weeks, bear in mind also, Dawn Meats were only tested Friday, so in all likelihood those cases if any wont have been released yet.

    I've also heard of an outbreak in a local sportswear supplier, won't be too hard to work out where! For Suree!;)

    Very good rhyme there, heard that too


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    #2179
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭aziz


    reni10 wrote: »
    What are they not telling us about why meat factory workers are getting covid much more than any other people?

    I want to know why and what are they doing to prevent it?

    It all seems so cloak and dagger about it, explain properly to people why these workers have been infected and how to stop it!

    Exactly this,if we end up with a pile of cases coming from the meat plants,how were they left to get into that situation.
    Any of these places should be made to close down immediately for 3 weeks if any more than 4 cases detected and all staff should be paid fully for the duration.
    Maybe that will teach them to cop the feck on😷😷


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    #2180
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭reni10


    aziz wrote: »
    Exactly this,if we end up with a pile of cases coming from the meat plants,how were they left to get into that situation.
    Any of these places should be made to close down immediately for 3 weeks if any more than 4 cases detected and all staff should be paid fully for the duration.
    Maybe that will teach them to cop the feck on😷😷

    They not only need to close but also need to explain why their workers are getting infected and they need to change things dramatically in their factories and tell people exactly how they are going to prevent this happening again in the future.

    There is definitely something that is not right about this whole episode and I really want to know why as I am not prepared to let whatever it is causing this infection bring us all back into a lockdown!


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    #2181
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    The reality is most of the meat plants probably aren't fit for purpose without massive investment which is unlikely to occur, so it will be hushed up and brushed under the carpet to keep the industry moving.


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    #2182
    tonc76
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    possible due to the poor working practices in the sector, they may not want to open a can of worms, possibly exposing of particular industries, it is a fairly important food sector, after all, strongly protected industry, including the farming sector.........
    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    The reality is most of the meat plants probably aren't fit for purpose without massive investment which is unlikely to occur, so it will be hushed up and brushed under the carpet to keep the industry moving.

    I'm genuinely interested to know what people's knowledge is of work practices in meat plants or what is considered not fit for purpose as I've no idea what goes on inside those places?


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    #2183
    OhToBeByTheSea
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    possible due to the poor working practices in the sector, they may not want to open a can of worms, possibly exposing of particular industries, it is a fairly important food sector, after all, strongly protected industry, including the farming sector.........

    I would also say that many of them would be in shared accommodation, maybe even cramped accommodation and, many of them would also share transport to and from work.


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    #2184
    tonc76
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    OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »
    I would also say that many of them would be in shared accommodation, maybe even cramped accommodation and, many of them would also share transport to and from work.

    As with my post above is this just hearsay or can you back up your statement?


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    #2185
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭reni10


    OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »
    I would also say that many of them would be in shared accommodation, maybe even cramped accommodation and, many of them would also share transport to and from work.

    Why are they in shared accommodation and sharing transport?

    It sounds very very dodgy if that is true!

    Is it something like they have illegal workers there who they don't pay properly and no legitimate person would work there so the conditions are terrible and that is why they are all getting infected in such numbers?


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    #2186
    StringerBell
    Registered Users Posts: 14,175 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    A lot of the Croatians that work in the plants share accommodation, I don't think there's anything particularly devious about that. Rent is expensive, they know and work together. Makes sense for them to bunk up (I don't mean that they are 8 to a house or anything)

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



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    #2187
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭aziz


    I worked in AIBP many years ago but I still know a couple of lads there and if a quarter of what goes on got out , they would be public uproar.
    But there are a lot of vested interests higher up that would keep it out of the public eye.
    It was a poisoned sector in the 80s and it has only got worse


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    #2188
    taytobreath
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    do meat plants hire in agency workers from abroad like what that strawberry crowd were doing, Keelins I think.


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    #2189
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭reni10


    aziz wrote: »
    I worked in AIBP many years ago but I still know a couple of lads there and if a quarter of what goes on got out , they would be public uproar.
    But there are a lot of vested interests higher up that would keep it out of the public eye.
    It was a poisoned sector in the 80s and it has only got worse

    Why is it not coming out?

    We are in the middle of the worst health emergency we have ever seen and there is something being hidden in these plants as they are now affecting millions of people's health and livelihoods!

    Why can the meat factories get away with this and other industries cannot???

    This is starting to make me feel very angry about this now and I am even more suspicious now that there is a serious issue in there and they are not telling people!

    Is that why it took Dawn Meats days to make a statement?
    They are hiding something and had to take days to get their story straight?


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    #2190
    PTH2009
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    reni10 wrote: »
    Why is it not coming out?

    We are in the middle of the worst health emergency we have ever seen and there is something being hidden in these plants as they are now affecting millions of people's health and livelihoods!

    Why can the meat factories get away with this and other industries cannot???

    Beef Barons are so powerful

    The whole county could end up been locked down with cases in the meat plants been a massive part of that


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    #2191
    smellyoldboot
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    tonc76 wrote: »
    I'm genuinely interested to know what people's knowledge is of work practices in meat plants or what is considered not fit for purpose as I've no idea what goes on inside those places?

    For one thing, their air circulation systems are exactly the opposite of what you want to prevent airborne disease spread. The entire factory floor is essentially a giant fridge and in order to maintain temperatures at slower cost, rather than ventilate and circulating fresh air, the same air is re-circulated almost constantly.

    And given convection cooling cycles, this will eventually tend to pool down to working level. A perfect storm for CoVid spread.


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