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Corona virus in waterford

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    #2522
    OhToBeByTheSea
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to look at the death rate and decide we have to live with this and go on as normal

    How many years have we lived through other similar virsues with as much an effect as this ??.

    Which viruses have had as much of an effect as this?


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    #2523
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    PTH2009 wrote:
    We need to look at the death rate and decide we have to live with this and go on as normal


    You could always volunteer to get it, and report back to us if it's really that serious or not


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    #2524
    friendlyfun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭friendlyfun


    OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »
    Which viruses have had as much of an effect as this?

    The last one of this scale probably the spanish flu


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    #2525
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭kuang1


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to look at the death rate and decide we have to live with this and go on as normal

    How many years have we lived through other similar virsues with as much an effect as this ??.

    Maybe no more posts after midnight for you PTH.


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    #2526
    Flow Motion
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Flow Motion


    OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »
    Honestly, you're the only "doom'n'gloom merchant" I see in this thread.

    :pac::pac::pac: There must be a lot of fog out there 'By The Sea' as I am an ocean of calm in the covid current of madness. Don't be so shellfish! :pac::pac:


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    #2527
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭BBM77


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to look at the death rate and decide we have to live with this and go on as normal

    How many years have we lived through other similar virsues with as much an effect as this ??.

    It is actually getting absurd. Waterford has a low and declining rate of the virus and it has been moved to up level 3. But when cases in Waterford were increasing and for a time the highest rate in the country we stayed at level 2!

    COVID-19 is a very dangerous virus no denying it. However, lockdowns/restrictions are pointless. In reality they achieve little. My job has not even been affected by the COVID-19 response but lockdowns/restrictions still seem pointless to me. It was OK in March to help the country prepare. But now it just starting to look like the health service looking after themselves and ignoring the rest of the country. People in the health service have jobs for life. They are not the ones facing redundancy and the effects of a tanking economy.


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    #2528
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    We need to look at the death rate and decide we have to live with this and go on as normal

    How many years have we lived through other similar virsues with as much an effect as this ??.

    The effects we are seeing are a bit misleading to be fair. The current infection rate and death rate is with significant controls in place and altered behaviour from most people. Going on as normal and letting it rip through the population could produce horrifying results and ultimately we'd be back to even more significant controls afterwards.


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    #2529
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    BBM77 wrote: »
    It is actually getting absurd. Waterford has a low and declining rate of the virus and it has been moved to up level 3. But when cases in Waterford were increasing and for a time the highest rate in the country we stayed at level 2!

    COVID-19 is a very dangerous virus no denying it. However, lockdowns/restrictions are pointless. In reality achieve little. My job has not even been affected by the COVID-19 response but lockdowns/restrictions still seem pointless to me. It was OK in March to help the country prepare. But now it just starting to look like the health service looking after themselves and ignoring the rest of the country. People in the health service have jobs for life. They are not the ones facing redundancy and the effects of a tanking economy.

    again, nphets mandate is to solely protect the health service, its the governments job to protect both the health service and the economy, theyve clearly chosen to prioritise the economy in this decision, lets hope it works. its important to not allow your own biases get the better of you, job security certainly is better in the public sector, but would you really want to be a frontline worker through this?


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    #2530
    Flow Motion
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Flow Motion


    BBM77 wrote: »
    It is actually getting absurd. Waterford has a low and declining rate of the virus and it has been moved to up level 3. But when cases in Waterford were increasing and for a time the highest rate in the country we stayed at level 2!

    COVID-19 is a very dangerous virus no denying it. However, lockdowns/restrictions are pointless. In reality achieve little. My job has not even been affected by the COVID-19 response but lockdowns/restrictions still seem pointless to me. It was OK in March to help the country prepare. But now it just starting to look like the health service looking after themselves and ignoring the rest of the country. People in the health service have jobs for life. They are not the ones facing redundancy and the effects of a tanking economy.

    Agreed. Its only a few weeks ago Dr Glynn was warning that Wfd was in trouble & yet now we are the best in the country. I think the current ramping up of restrictions is primarily to protect the HSE through the Winter. But as you say HSE workers, Civil Servants, Politicians etc have jobs/pensions for life. Whatever you think about Leo Varadkar @ least he had the balls to call out these people on Claire Byrne the other night "None of those people would have faced being on #PUP, none of them have to tell someone they are losing their job, none of them will have to shutter a business for the last time"

    Unfortunately there are no easy answers and it's a minefield for all of us. We did have an opportunity to really eradicate the disease from the country during the 1st lockdown. Daily cases had fallen to single numbers & hospital admissions were negligible. I heard an "expert" on TV last night saying that in all probability we were only about a month away from eradicating the disease. That would have been sometime @ the end of June/early July. We could have controlled the situation then via incoming travel etc. We would all have been on Level 0.

    Finally, a result of our continuing efforts and despite the rise in numbers lately the death rate has fallen. Our 1st 10,000 cases was reached in mid April with 365 deaths approx; 2nd 10,000 reached @ end April = 825 deaths; 3rd 10,000 reached earlt Sept = 558 deaths; the 4th 10,000 will be reached in the next week or so = with approx 33 deaths. The vast majority of us have changed our personal behaviours and the next 3+ weeks @ Level 3 should help reduce the spread further. At a local level we have done amazingly well to turn around the Sept spike to only a few cases.


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    #2531
    OhToBeByTheSea
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    BBM77 wrote: »
    People in the health service have jobs for life. They are not the ones facing redundancy and the effects of a tanking economy.


    There's plenty of job opportunities in the health service at the moment, across every level, if you're interested in having a "job for life" and no prospect of "facing redundancy" and not be "affected by a tanking economy".


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    #2532
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭BBM77


    OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »
    There's plenty of job opportunities in the health service at the moment, across every level, if you're interested in having a "job for life" and no prospect of "facing redundancy" and not be "affected by a tanking economy".

    I'm not a medical professional, why would I be applying? Don't get what your point is.


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    #2533
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    school runs are a fcuking disaster, not a mask in sight!


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    #2534
    OhToBeByTheSea
    Registered Users Posts: 200 ✭✭OhToBeByTheSea


    BBM77 wrote: »
    I'm not a medical professional, why would I be applying? Don't get what your point is.


    That's unfortunate.


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    #2535
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    BBM77 wrote: »
    I'm not a medical professional, why would I be applying?

    Neither is most of the HSE to be fair. They're always seeking paper pushers.


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    #2536
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    Neither is most of the HSE to be fair. They're always seeking paper pushers.

    a common outcome when major private sector industries, particularly insurance companies, are introduced into a public system


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    #2537
    Aquos76
    Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    8 confirmed cases in Waterford yesterday.


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    #2538
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    jesus, no wonder nphet went for level 5, sh1te!


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    #2539
    Tiger Roll
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Tiger Roll


    Aquos76 wrote:
    8 confirmed cases in Waterford yesterday.


    And more to come tomorrow.
    On a separate note did the GAA on Monday order the closure of social centres and bars , I've seen 2 open this evening with people going in and out of them !


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    #2540
    Harry Palmr
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    GAA think and act like a fiefdom while draping the Irish flag around them.


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    #2541
    AUDI20
    Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭AUDI20


    Tiger Roll wrote: »
    And more to come tomorrow.
    On a separate note did the GAA on Monday order the closure of social centres and bars , I've seen 2 open this evening with people going in and out of them !

    Yes they did.


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    #2542
    xFROSTY Gx
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭xFROSTY Gx


    All of the casinos/arcades out in Tramore seem to still be open. They do have most of the shutters down except for one open doorway leading into them.
    It's as if they know they should be closed but chancing it until being forced to shut down.
    Sickening to see it when you have so many bars and restaurants some of which only reopened in the last few weeks and having to close again. And then arcade/casino operators not giving a flying ****:rolleyes:


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    #2543
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    xFROSTY Gx wrote: »
    All of the casinos/arcades out in Tramore seem to still be open. They do have most of the shutters down except for one open doorway leading into them.
    It's as if they know they should be closed but chancing it until being forced to shut down.
    Sickening to see it when you have so many bars and restaurants some of which only reopened in the last few weeks and having to close again. And then arcade/casino operators not giving a flying ****:rolleyes:

    That the same owner that was on the defaulters list? ;)


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    #2544
    xFROSTY Gx
    Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭xFROSTY Gx


    spookwoman wrote: »
    That the same owner that was on the defaulters list? ;)

    That particular character sold his one about a year ago, although the name outside hasn't been changed yet ;)


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    #2545
    Tiger Roll
    Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Tiger Roll


    Also was in lisduggan shopping centre this morning, the cafe can't have customers on the premises so they had 3 tables outside full of people . Outside being in the middle of the aisle in the shopping centre !


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    #2546
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Tiger Roll wrote: »
    Also was in lisduggan shopping centre this morning, the cafe can't have customers on the premises so they had 3 tables outside full of people . Outside being in the middle of the aisle in the shopping centre !

    All of this type of ****e is caused by the style of rule enforcement we have created ourselves with an "ah sure it's grand" attitude to everything.

    I know things are maybe a small but stricter now but how many people drove away for years on a provisional licence knowing full well if they were caught it would be a finger wagging and Fcuk all else. Same with our criminals, they know they will flat out just get away with 90% of what they get up to.

    I'd say they had customers sitting at them too knowing full well they were flouting the rules and acting against public health advice.


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    #2547
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/WaterfordAmb/status/1313923917648625666?s=20


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    #2548
    Cedric Teeny Cone
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Cedric Teeny Cone


    Tiger Roll wrote: »
    Also was in lisduggan shopping centre this morning, the cafe can't have customers on the premises so they had 3 tables outside full of people . Outside being in the middle of the aisle in the shopping centre !

    Absurd carry on. Not a lick of sense.


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    #2549
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Deleted User wrote:
    Absurd carry on. Not a lick of sense.


    Businesses could be getting desperate now, in order to stay open, government have to step in, to protect everyone


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    #2550
    Flow Motion
    Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Flow Motion


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Businesses could be getting desperate now, in order to stay open, government have to step in, to protect everyone

    The Government??:confused: For the past few days they have been playing a game of political football with NPHET. Passing & shifting blame and point scoring. This has dragged on all week. Just take this mouthful : "I was very clear about the level of concern that I have and had and if anything the level of concern I had then is less than the level of concern I have now,” Holohan said. All this muddies the waters from the job @ hand : managing the pandemic!


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    #2551
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,454 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Flow Motion wrote: »
    The Government??:confused: For the past few days they have been playing a game of political football with NPHET. Passing & shifting blame and point scoring. This has dragged on all week. Just take this mouthful : "I was very clear about the level of concern that I have and had and if anything the level of concern I had then is less than the level of concern I have now,” Holohan said. All this muddies the waters from the job @ hand : managing the pandemic!

    yup, modern government, has little interest in governing


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