Corona virus in waterford

Flow Motion

Aquos76 wrote: »

I agree with what you are saying but I genuinely think people are getting caught up with these league tables, the facts are that numbers are increasing quicker now then they have been in months, just because we aren’t as bad as others doesn’t mean things can’t or won’t go bad here for us too. I’ve seen people say that we should reduce Waterford level back to 2 or even 1, how quick would you think our numbers would increase then?

People are getting caught up with stats & figures on both sides of the argument. However, we are the best in class @ the moment In fact overall since the beginning of the pandemic we have performed well compared to the rest of the country. Personally I would rather be in our position than somebody living up in Donegal et al. We probably wont drop a Level but we dont deserve to jump up a step. The border counties will go to 4 soon. I heard the Tanaiste saying something on those lines earlier. meanwhile, let the sun continue to shine on in the sunny south east:cool:

OhToBeByTheSea

I'm sure everyone is in agreement that we are all hoping that we won't run out of beds over the next few months. However, heading into Winter and flu season, our hospitals generally struggle under the weight of it all so, this year is probably going to be even worse. Bear in mind that in Dec/Jan last year, the ICU in UHW was so over-run with severe cases of the flu and pneumonia, that they also had to make use of the HDU and CCU for these patients.

With regard to ICU/HDU/CCU beds in particular, it's not as simple as "we have 225 beds". For each of those type of beds, there is a minimum staff requirement that is mandatory, as in, if all of the staff required aren't available, the bed is not available. For example, for an ICU bed, you're talking about multiple staff being required per bed.

I am hoping that, with mask wearing and increased hand hygiene, we won't have as many cases of the flu and pneumonia this year.

mooseknunkle

Aquos76 wrote: »

I agree with what you are saying but I genuinely think people are getting caught up with these league tables, the facts are that numbers are increasing quicker now then they have been in months, just because we aren’t as bad as others doesn’t mean things can’t or won’t go bad here for us too. I’ve seen people say that we should reduce Waterford level back to 2 or even 1, how quick would you think our numbers would increase then?

How are things looking since we moved to level 3 have cases in Waterford increased?

spookwoman

mooseknunkle wrote: »

How are things looking since we moved to level 3 have cases in Waterford increased?

Numbers are a little erratic here even during the time when we got 22 cases the previous was 4 and the next was 7 then 11

up to midnight of these dates
3/10 4
4/10 1
5/10 8
6/10 1
Lockdown
7/10 10
8/10 10
9/10 13
10/10 9
11/10 4
Yesterday was 7 at the press briefing

Harry Palmr

6 cases just announced. Still bottom of the cases per 100k pile.

Wexford 23 more.

PTH2009

level 4 looming sadly

its not much different from level 3 but the danger is it means for Christmas nothing below Level 3 will happen

friendlyfun

Going my trends throughout most of Europe I'd say we are going to get more restrictions.

StringerBell

Motivator wrote: »

Waterford has no Covid patients in ICU and there are 44 potential ICU beds available in the new wing if required, which they won’t be.

So don’t pay any attention to media or rumour reports that there’s no beds in Ardkeen, because there is plenty.

Is there enough staff too for the beds? I see others have pointed that out too. Not sure what a potential ICU bed is though?

PTH2009

God we're ****ed

AUDI20

PTH2009 wrote: »

God we're ****ed

We are not alone, so is most of the world.

spookwoman

hse operations report

5 Confirmed Cases in hospital (No change)
15 Free general beds (+7)
1 Critical care bed free (No Change)
1 Confirmed case in critical care (+1)
0 Suspected cases in critical care (No Change)

Flow Motion

Harry Palmr wrote: »

6 cases just announced. Still bottom of the cases per 100k pile.

Wexford 23 more.

G'wan d'Blues boy! I am not being facetious btw. The fact that the country is being mothballed by levels means less people will travel cross county bounds and with the seasons moving toward Winter the natural inclination is to hibernate by a cozy fire. The fact that Waterford has lower numbers (lowest!) hopefully over the coming months we will maintain that trajectory. Might mean a life less ordinary for us all and bit on the boring side but so be it. Having endured the past seven months the habits that once seemed unusual (masks,distance,sanitise) are now pretty much ingrained in the vast majority of the population.

Long term? Perhaps the Govt, in agreement with our Northern brethern, should join forces socially for the greater good in what is turning out to be one of the biggest health crises of the past century. We now need to tackle Covid on an all-island all-Ireland basis. Our biggest advantage being that we are an island on the edge of Europe. Huge call but ban all civilian travel by air & sea in/out of the island for say 6 months. Those citizens that need to return would have to quarantine in a Govt/HSE facility to guarantee Covid free status before being allowed move with the country.

Within 6 month we could have a Covid free island where we could all move, work, socialise freely on the island. Ramp up quarantine for incomers. Manage the pandemic. We could fully reopen the economy and live. Sure there would be no holidays abroad till a vaccine was found but at least the morale, jobs and mental health and social fabric of the population could be repaired and maintained. Think about it: 6 months is not a long time to achieve a Zero Free Ireland. To keep going down the path we are currently on will only be a groundhog day existence; open & closing everything, multiple lockdowns and a seriously drained national psyche.

Aquos76

UHW issue an update

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/10/15/uhw-over-capacity-as-covid-admissions-increase/

OhToBeByTheSea

Aquos76 wrote: »

UHW issue an update

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/10/15/uhw-over-capacity-as-covid-admissions-increase/

Is it normal/legal for communications sent by the hospital manager to all staff to be leaked, pretty much word for word, to the media?

Wanderer78

OhToBeByTheSea wrote:

Is it normal/legal for communications sent by the hospital manager to all staff to be leaked, pretty much word for word, to the media?

Probably not all that normal, and people were cutting the back off Holohan, for hitting the level 5 panic button!

OhToBeByTheSea

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Probably not all that normal, and people were cutting the back off Holohan, for hitting the level 5 panic button!

Sure, there's nothing to worry about...

Motivator wrote: »

there are 44 potential ICU beds available in the new wing if required, which they won’t be.

:pac:

Flow Motion

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Is it normal/legal for communications sent by the hospital manager to all staff to be leaked, pretty much word for word, to the media?

Doesn't look good when that sort of privileged & confidential info ends up any internet/media platform for everyone to see. Perhaps its an unsubtle political manoeuvre on behalf of UHW to make sure they are best prepared through the Winter; looking for more funds/capacity/staff etc. Maybe looking to jump ahead of the posse??

Aquos76

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Is it normal/legal for communications sent by the hospital manager to all staff to be leaked, pretty much word for word, to the media?

Normal, yeah, legal, probably not, however if it’s forwarded on to the media by an employee, then it’s the employee who passes it on who is breaching confidentiality here and not the media outlet.

OhToBeByTheSea

Aquos76 wrote: »

Normal, yeah, legal, probably not, however if it’s forwarded on to the media by an employee, then it’s the employee who passes it on who is breaching confidentiality here and not the media outlet.

Oh jesus yeah, of course. We received the email just barely an hour before waterford-news posted the story, it's interesting how quickly that happened.

Harry Palmr

BOOM! 19 cases.

spookwoman

OhToBeByTheSea wrote: »

Oh jesus yeah, of course. We received the email just barely an hour before waterford-news posted the story, it's interesting how quickly that happened.

Interesting after I posted bed details on Sunday and was told.

Motivator wrote: »

I don’t know where you are getting your information, but there is not 1 ICU bed in Waterford. You are wrong. If and when Covid hits hard in Ardkeen, the hospital is more than well equipped to deal with patients when it comes to beds.

111 in iso is bad and we all know even on a good day the hospital is under serious pressure

PTH2009

So will non essential services like the clothes shops etc close tonight ?

jopax

PTH2009 wrote: »

So will non essential services like the clothes shops etc close tonight ?

Just the 3 counties on the border

PTH2009

jopax wrote: »

Just the 3 counties on the border

Not too bad, its all so confusing

Tbh move the whole country into level 4 and be done with it. We might have a semi decent Christmas cause of it

spookwoman

Latest LEA Hub Data

OhToBeByTheSea

spookwoman wrote: »

Interesting after I posted bed details on Sunday and was told.

111 in iso is bad and we all know even on a good day the hospital is under serious pressure

It's important to note as well that we are "consistently above capacity for 2+ weeks" on a seriously reduced schedule of care so, we're already overloaded with a reduced schedule of care + covid patients and it's still very early days.

spookwoman

HSE Operations report early tonight


6 Confirmed in Hospital +1
1 Confirmed in CC No Change
1 Suspected in CC +1

23 General beds available +8
2 CC beds available +1

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-2000-15-october-2020.pdf

Flow Motion

PTH2009 wrote: »

Not too bad, its all so confusing

Tbh move the whole country into level 4 and be done with it. We might have a semi decent Christmas cause of it

Why should a county such as Waterford with the lowest rate in the country jump up to Level 4? The effect of these Levels takes some time to be reflected in the figures and the hoped for change in the GP's attitudes to the disease. Moving up to L/4 means only "essential" retail & businesses so in effect it is pretty restrictive. A lot of people will be laid off for a couple of months @ least. However the schools will remain open.
Christmas on the other hand is gonna be a totally different experience. Usually its a time of year to meet old friends and socialise with extended family. Be prepared to stock up and dig in!

spookwoman

Flow Motion wrote: »

Why should a county such as Waterford with the lowest rate in the country jump up to Level 4? The effect of these Levels takes some time to be reflected in the figures and the hoped for change in the GP's attitudes to the disease. Moving up to L/4 means only "essential" retail & businesses so in effect it is pretty restrictive. A lot of people will be laid off for a couple of months @ least. However the schools will remain open.
Christmas on the other hand is gonna be a totally different experience. Usually its a time of year to meet old friends and socialise with extended family. Be prepared to stock up and dig in!

Ireland is a small country and counties are not very big. We may have Kilkenny and Tipp who have low incidence rates like us next door but we also have Cork and Wexford next to us as well. We don't know the true rate of infection and you can guarantee people who know they probably have it won't go to the doctors or get tested for different reasons and some will use the excuse of not wanting to give a reason for further restrictions.

mooseknunkle

Flow Motion wrote: »

Why should a county such as Waterford with the lowest rate in the country jump up to Level 4? The effect of these Levels takes some time to be reflected in the figures and the hoped for change in the GP's attitudes to the disease. Moving up to L/4 means only "essential" retail & businesses so in effect it is pretty restrictive. A lot of people will be laid off for a couple of months @ least. However the schools will remain open.
Christmas on the other hand is gonna be a totally different experience. Usually its a time of year to meet old friends and socialise with extended family. Be prepared to stock up and dig in!

Level 5 for six weeks being recommended now!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nphet-recommends-level-5-restrictions-for-entire-country-for-six-weeks-39631457.html