Man city (not) banned from Champions league for 2 years [Mod note see first post]

Shorty69664

Just heard on the last word that man city have been banned from the champions League for financial fair play issues. Pep will be gone at the end of the year...


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Shorty69664

Link

Manchester City banned from Champions League for two seasons over FFP

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/14/manchester-city-banned-from-champions-league-two-seasons-ffp-uefa?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Agent Coulson

Well if they don't win it this year Pep is out of there.

Mickeroo

Will 5th place now qualify for the CL I wonder?

JPA

Mickeroo wrote: »

Will 5th place now qualify for the CL I wonder?

Good point.

PhilipsR

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Appeal and overturned to just a fine incoming.

micar

They'll appeal....be successful, be reinstated and receive a fine and a slap on the wrists......naughty naughty Man City .....don't do it again.

Shorty69664

PhilipsR wrote: »

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Appeal and overturned to just a fine incoming.

They won't accept it without a fight, that's for sure...

Hopefully it's held up,

ERG89

PhilipsR wrote: »

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Appeal and overturned to just a fine incoming.

They have got a €30m fine with this too.

Fitz*

They'll appeal alright. Hopefully it stands.

What does this mean for CL places in England this year? I think an Italian team took AC Milan's place when they opted out of European football to avoid FFP sanctions.

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO

Plenty of oil money to buy, bribe, intimate their way back out of this.

redzerdrog

Hopefully it’s doubled after a frivolous appeal!

murpho999

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

Plenty of oil money to buy, bribe, intimate their way back out of this.

So why haven't they done this already then and prevented the ban and investigation?

Interesting to see how Blue Moon will blame the world for this.

xtal191

€30m fine too

Harry Palmr

As much as I'd love to see City overturn this so they can be humiliated in the Champions League every year I fear this will be upheld

alchemist33

Sure the fans didn't really want it anyway

TitianGerm

G Stack after exploding somewhere. All his protests that City wouldn't be punished.

Dave_The_Sheep

Cynical me wonders if this is FIFA/UEFA just asking for a few oil-money bribes to overturn this on appeal without coming out and saying it.

Agent Coulson

Well City fans do love to boo the Champions League Anthem so this won't stop that anyway.

ASOT

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Cynical me wonders if this is FIFA just asking for a few oil-money bribes to overturn this on appeal without coming out and saying it.

What way do you construct your tinfoil hat?

Harry Palmr

How many seasons Pep?

TitianGerm

How many years did City get Pep?

https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/EJB-LzHWkAgDwqW.mp4

Edit: damn you Harry :pac:

Dave_The_Sheep

ASOT wrote: »

What way do you construct your tinfoil hat?

I get a large bowl and make it around that first, then mould it to the shape of my noggin. Years of practice.

ebbsy

**** me. So 5th will qualify ?

MD1990

makes what Liverpool are doing eevn more impressive beating financial dopers

City's wage bill is obviously completely fake. Who knows how high their real wage bill is

The White Wolf

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

Plenty of oil money to buy, bribe, intimate their way back out of this.

Few white roses should do it given the day is in it.

Potential Underachiever

Twice seasons? Nah, joke does not work, sorry lads.

ERG89

That Real Madrid tie has somehow become far bigger for them now.

FourFourRED

ebbsy wrote: »

**** me. So 5th will qualify ?

Unlikely to be a concern for any of the teams in the Premier League this season

https://twitter.com/markogden_/status/1228389130402455552?s=21
https://twitter.com/markogden_/status/1228391575694254080?s=21

Agent Coulson

How many of the players will want to hang around now as well or players who they want to sign.

lawred2

Had this happened before? To any other club?

jimmii

Guessing it'll get dragged out for so long that in the end it'll be a suspended sentence and double the fine and city totally promise to behave in the future. Just cannot see city being in the CL next season.

theoneeyedman

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

Plenty of oil money to buy, bribe, intimate their way back out of this.

They'll appeal, drag it out, pay off who needs to be paid off, over the table in fines and if necessary is suspect under it too if needed. They have the finances to make this difficult for UEFA on so many levels....what are the chances of UEFA getting hacked (or emails being leaked) in the near future?

Big move from UEFA. Really doubling down on the FFP taking on City/UAE. Everyone with any reason knew or at least suspected the gist of what was going on at City, but proving it, and making it stick is another thing.

Suspect the suspension will be appealed and 'suspended', City will appeal to UEFA and CAS and maybe even the German Supreme Court, eventually UEFA will get tired and their legal costs will keep climbing, and they will make a settlement for gazillions of petrodollars.

Big embarrassment for the PR vehicle that is the Manchester City project though.

Pauliedragon

I'd say it's a safe bet Man city will play in the champions league next season and the next.

theoneeyedman

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

Plenty of oil money to buy, bribe, intimate their way back out of this.

They'll appeal, drag it out, pay off who needs to be paid off, over the table in fines and if necessary is suspect under it too if needed. They have the finances to make this difficult for UEFA on so many levels....what are the chances of UEFA getting hacked (or emails being leaked) in the near future?

Big move from UEFA. Really doubling down on the FFP taking on City/UAE. Everyone with any reason knew or at least suspected the gist of what was going on at City, but proving it, and making it stick is another thing.

Suspect the suspension will be appealed and 'suspended', City will appeal to UEFA and CAS and maybe even the German Supreme Court, eventually UEFA will get tired and their legal costs will keep climbing, and they will make a settlement for gazillions of petrodollars.

Big embarrassment for the PR vehicle that is the Manchester City project though.

UrbanFret

Finally City will get a proper hearing away from the corrupt Cartel that is Uefa.

gimli2112

just a summary of why

https://www.90min.com/posts/6216627-spotlight-on-man-city-the-key-points-from-der-spiegel-on-alleged-dodgy-dealings-ffp-subversion

they'll learn an important lesson from this, if you're going to do crime don't talk about it on emails

Harry Palmr

This would be a good time for CAS to stand up for the little guys

So then three possibles

A) CAS back UEFA two year ban upheld. Pep leaves and so do a number of top players.
CAS partially back UEFA, ban reduced to one season plus fine or both seasons and fine suspended.
C) CAS overturn the whole thing and Man City sue UEFA. Lawyers get fantastically rich.

Jimbob1977

Are City exceptional?

Why not investigate Chelsea or PSG?

TitianGerm

UrbanFret wrote: »

Finally City will get a proper hearing away from the corrupt Cartel that is Uefa.

I know. City should drop out of the CL as a form of protest. That'll show that pesky UEFA.

Charlie19

Liverpool next for taking Van Dyje on a rollercoaster.

murpho999

Charlie19 wrote: »

Liverpool next for taking Van Dyje on a rollercoaster.

Who?

Do you mean van Dijk?

Agent Coulson

theoneeyedman wrote: »

They'll appeal, drag it out, pay off who needs to be paid off, over the table in fines and if necessary is suspect under it too if needed. They have the finances to make this difficult for UEFA on so many levels....what are the chances of UEFA getting hacked (or emails being leaked) in the near future?

Big move from UEFA. Really doubling down on the FFP taking on City/UAE. Everyone with any reason knew or at least suspected the gist of what was going on at City, but proving it, and making it stick is another thing.

Suspect the suspension will be appealed and 'suspended', City will appeal to UEFA and CAS and maybe even the German Supreme Court, eventually UEFA will get tired and their legal costs will keep climbing, and they will make a settlement for gazillions of petrodollars.

Big embarrassment for the PR vehicle that is the Manchester City project though.

Oil Countries don't suffer from embarrassment they murder people for fun and have no shame and happily stick two fingers up to the rest of the world.

Osmosis Jones

The fine coupled with no CL revenue for 2 years is a massive amount of money to lose out on, potentially over 200m

I think getting out of this may not be as easy as people say, bribe people here and there, delay it.

The obvious issue is...if that was possible, it's a lot harder now a decision is made. Will UEFA tie itself up in knots for one club? Very powerful and rich clubs have been sanctioned in the past by smaller national organisations, Marseilles, Juve etc.

FluffPiece

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Are City exceptional?

Why not investigate Chelsea or PSG?

From what I remember, both PSG and Chelsea agreed to cooperate with any investigations and basically bent over for UEFA.

City denied everything and refused everything. Correct to do if nothing to hide but come on, new owners came in suddenly they were getting massive sponsorship deals that dwarfed everyone else in the league. Even Man Utd couldn't get close to the deals at the time and say what you like about them, that club generates cash like noone else almost.

Agent Coulson

Madrid to knock Pep out this season would be poetic.

gimli2112

There's going to be some atmosphere at the Eitihad against RM

Guy:Incognito

murpho999 wrote: »

Who?

Do you mean van Dijk?

Sean Van Dyce