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The press are now attacking the prosecutors for going ahead with the Caroline flack a

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    #92
    Sunflower 27
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    If it was an accident, that would have come out at the hearing. She'd have had her say and most likely got her job back.

    I personally don't believe it was an accident if reports of her behaviour when the police arrived are the truth.

    Very difficult time ahead for her family and friends, especially the boyfriend. Dead at 40 when she had such a bright future. Such a terrible waste of life. Rip.


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    #93
    micar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭micar


    STB. wrote: »
    You don't get convicted for a crime until the courts determine so.


    You can armchair law all you want.

    It's not about opinions. Its about labeling people with "crimes". Its innocent until proven guilty in both Ireland and the UK and you don't get to decide, Einstein.

    Please quit it with your "Einstein"......it's extremely insulting
    Sunflower 27 wrote: »
    If it was an accident, that would have come out at the hearing. She'd have had her say and most likely got her job back.

    I personally don't believe it was an accident if reports of her behaviour when the police arrived are the truth


    She would have had the opportunity in court to explain what happened.

    The prosecution would have put forward case for assault.

    She chose to end her life to stop a court case from proceeding.


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    #94
    retro:electro
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    The press are trying to cover their own asses because the spotlight is also on them for their intrusive reporting. In reality, none of us know what drove her to this. Social media is awash with not only judge jury and executioner, but pathologists and coroners ready to blame her death left right and centre.

    Her death can’t be simplified or explained by forming a simple hashtag, nor can future suicides be prevented by simply being kind. To say that is to simplify the complexity of mental health struggles and make a complex decision extremely one dimensional.

    The CPS were well within their right to pursue charges, with or without the consent of the victim. Uk DV laws have been updated recently thanks to the tireless work of DV campaigners. This means that once 999 is dialled, if there is sufficient evidence an attack took place; then the situation is completely removed from the victim’s hands and the CPS take over. This is done in order to remove any pressure to the victim to retract statements.

    Bottom line — Caroline was an incredibly troubled girl who threatened suicide on precious occasions and has openly admitted struggling with her mental health. Playing the blame game is dangerous and reckless. The media, trolls or the CPS didn’t make her pick up a lamp and assault her boyfriend. Thus, sadly, she clearly had issues long before she decided to take her own life. It’s a pity she didn’t see this time in her life through because although she didn’t believe it, she would have recovered from this.


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    #95
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,443 ✭✭✭tritium


    STB. wrote: »
    If you didn't notice you are talking about "her crimes". Now lets try that again, What was she convicted of ?

    That Fred West was such a nice man until the CPS started hounding him :pac:

    Seriously, I’m all and completely for innocent till proven guilty but let’s not pretend dying before the trial is the same as an acquittal. In these circumstances all we can do is call the evidence as we see it, acknowledging some details may not be in the public domain. Given how even some celebrities who have actually been acquitted in court have been treated publicly and on boards our angst here seems a wee bit misplaced. .its easy to say someone was vulnerable but that doesn’t remove the very serious charges they were facing (and not just a scratch with a lamp as one poster put it)


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    #96
    Kidchameleon
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    There's no way this woman should be getting this amount of sympathy. At the end of the day she was a domestic abuser & was as evil as all the other wife beaters. They would be getting no sympathy right now were they in similar circumstances.


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    #97
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    ah here... she wasn't well, she's not 'evil'


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    #98
    Kidchameleon
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    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    ah here... she wasn't well, she's not 'evil'


    If a man bet up his wife would you say the same thing? He smashes a lamp over her head and all you would say is "ah poor fellah isnt well". I dont think so. Flak is being molly coddled because she is a woman, so much for equality. Anyone who hits their partner is evil in my book, I have no sympathy for her.


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