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"None of our children on the list are getting these houses"

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    #242
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Jimmy Mushy Snotty wrote: »
    Nope, he's appealing that also, so hasn't got anything.


    Exactly, 'orders' are akin to polite requests.

    He’s in prison. He’s not going to win his appeal. He’s under enforced deportation.

    The orders are orders - nothing voluntary about them.


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    #243
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Glad I bought my house second hand in an established area with no 20% rule TBH. But then again I am a snob obviously to some, I don't really care.

    Would never buy new with that 20% rule extant. Sorry now, my money, my choice.

    You’re entitled to buy or not buy whatever you like. But there’s plenty will be only too happy to buy those homes.


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    #244
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Ah sure it's just life in a big city like their Mayor said.
    Loads of social housing given to non English look how that worked out.

    It’s worked out fine. Lived there for years and can’t say it was ever anything but a great city to live in.


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    #245
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    alastair wrote: »
    He’s in prison. He’s not going to win his appeal. He’s under enforced deportation.
    Psychic?
    Or maybe you still didn't read the article yet?
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5055250/asylum-seeker-gay-death-threats-fathered-children-court/

    He's on his 2nd appeal of sorts...
    The State is still unable to boot him out due to the ongoing court challenge
    alastair wrote: »
    The orders are orders - nothing voluntary about them.
    Some people are handed 'orders' e.g. parking tickets fines (after supplying a false name, age and address). Once they're out of sight, the 'order to pay' gets crumpled and voluntary thrown like a mini basketball into the nearest wastepaper bin.


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    #246
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    alastair wrote: »
    It’s worked out fine. Lived there for years and can’t say it was ever anything but a great city to live in.

    Yes sounds like a dream alright.
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    #247
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Jimmy Mushy Snotty wrote: »
    Perhaps, but you could also end up with zombie knifes or samurai swords instead, have you seen the recent knife stats for (multi-cultural) London recently?

    What utter tosh yes one or two minor problems but just think of all the benefits food from every corner of the world on your doorstep.:D


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    #248
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Jimmy Mushy Snotty wrote: »
    Psychic?
    Or maybe you still didn't read the article yet?
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5055250/asylum-seeker-gay-death-threats-fathered-children-court/

    He's on his 2nd appeal of sorts...



    Some people are handed 'orders' e.g. parking tickets fines (after supplying a false name, age and address). Once they're out of sight, the 'order to pay' gets crumpled and voluntary thrown like a mini basketball into the nearest wastepaper bin.

    Everyone going through the asylum application is entitled to appeal their rejection. So he’s not going to have had a deportation order without an appeal.
    He’s no case, which is why he’ll lose this appeal. You don’t need to be psychic to understand that.

    And no - no deportation orders are ‘thrown into a wastebasket’. If there’s any indication that they haven’t been adhered to, the enforced deportation process kicks in.


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    #249
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    alastair wrote: »
    He’s no case, which is why he’ll lose this appeal. You don’t need to be psychic to understand that..
    I'll again quote the article on the (ongoing) court challenge
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5055250/asylum-seeker-gay-death-threats-fathered-children-court/
    The State is still unable to boot him out due to the ongoing court challenge
    His defence is claiming the (gay) man wants to bring up his (seperated from) kids in Ireland, there's a good chance he'll stay, regardless of what you (not the law) think.
    alastair wrote: »
    And no - no deportation orders are ‘thrown into a wastebasket’. If there’s any indication that they haven’t been adhered to, the enforced deportation process kicks in.
    Any indication???
    Lol! This lad offered a false name, false alias, false age, false country of origin, and best of all false sex orientation. How much of an indication would you require?

    His order was certainly not enforced. It was issued in 2015, he 'ignored it' and went AWOL for 5yrs, and guess what he's now challenging the 2nd order.
    Maybe come back in 2025 for an update, eh?


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    #250
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    His order was certainly not enforced. It was issued in 2015, he 'ignored it' and went AWOL for 5yrs, and guess what he's now challenging the 2nd order.
    Maybe come back in 2025 for an update, eh?
    Don't count on it hate speech laws to the rescue.

    Can't win a debate just declare anything to the counter as a hate speech crime.

    Would not be surprised if he gets a free house.


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    #251
    Thatsthejob
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Thatsthejob


    alastair wrote: »
    Most people use their house as a home, not a speculation prospect. And having local authority tenants beside vs private tenants would make no difference to your property value in any

    People do have to sell there houses and move for many reasons not just speculators.

    So do you seriously believe your last sentence or are you saying it just to sound nice and PC. I live in Limerick and I can tell you what you said is complete BS weather you realise it or not.


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    #252
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,990 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    kravmaga wrote: »
    Link, can you prove that, most new builds in Fingal will have up to 30% social housing, they cant all be non nationals getting the 30% now

    Some people see colour and see asylum seeker. When the reality is that person is probably earning more money than them in the IT or finance sectors and paid for the house just like they did.

    Often spoofs are just that


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    #253
    Thatsthejob
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Thatsthejob


    alastair wrote: »
    Most people use their house as a home, not a speculation prospect. And having local authority tenants beside vs private tenants would make no difference to your property value in any

    People do have to sell there houses and move for many reasons not just speculators.

    So do you seriously believe your last sentence or are you saying it just to sound nice and PC. I live in Limerick and I can tell you what you said is complete BS weather you realise it or not.


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    #254
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Oh look another thread to bash people in social housing, well i never....


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    #255
    Thatsthejob
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Thatsthejob


    Two things you wont see in Ireland are

    1. A black homeless person and 2. A Chinese man on the dole!


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    #256
    Thatsthejob
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭Thatsthejob


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Oh look another thread to bash people in social housing, well i never....

    I have no issue with social housing but don't believe they should be housed for free in estates where neighbours have spent small fortunes to buy the there houses


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    #257
    Enter name here
    Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    Social housing should be built around existing jails, that way the residents wont have far to travel to visit relatives or family.

    Social housing should be NEVER built in areas with owner occupiers. And yes we need to stigmatise these freeloaders into contributing to society.

    Or better still built internment camps in rural Ireland and house them there.


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    #258
    [Deleted User]
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    Thatsthejob wrote: »
    I have no issue with social housing but don't believe they should be housed for free in estates where neighbours have spent small fortunes to buy the there houses

    Agreed. Affordable housing my ass. Some of them have been placed in houses worth more than mine, and I've been paying a mortgage/taxes for over twenty years.

    They really should be building low quality places somewhere, and just plonking them in there. Provide education services to bring up their skills for employment (not minimum wages jobs), along with financial planning, and don't give them anything further until they've shown that they're trying to improve their lives.

    These affordable housing schemes are a massive middle finger to everyone who struggled through the banking crash with paying their mortgage and government taxes. Sure, some people are deserving of help, and we should be helping them.... but they would be an extreme minority. Anyone refusing a place because it's not near their family "supports" should be given the price of a plane ticket (as a loan), and told to earn some money abroad, like the rest of us did.


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    #259
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Enter name here wrote: »
    Social housing should be built around existing jails, that way the residents wont have far to travel to visit relatives or family.

    Social housing should be NEVER built in areas with owner occupiers. And yes we need to stigmatise these freeloaders into contributing to society.

    Or better still built internment camps in rural Ireland and house them there.

    Boards.ie hatred of the working class in full view here.

    This site is becoming ever more irrelevant.


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    #260
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Oh look another thread to bash people in social housing, well i never....

    Quite deserving though. And the threads will keep being created and discussed until the problem is fixed. Shocking, isn't it?


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    #261
    Bill 2.0
    Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Bill 2.0


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Boards.ie hatred of the working class in full view here.

    This site is becoming ever more irrelevant.


    You have to have a job to be working class.


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    #262
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,971 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Boards.ie hatred of the working class in full view here.

    This site is becoming ever more irrelevant.

    I think that should be the Entitled Class TBH. The rest of us just get on with it painfully.


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    #263
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    You have to have a job to be working class.

    I am living in a working class area I work my neighbours on either side of me work so you are just posting uninformed ****e.

    There are a lot of unemployed in the area true but MOST work why should I show you any respect?


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    #264
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Bill 2.0 wrote: »
    You have to have a job to be working class.

    the greatest trick the 'gimme gimme gimme' welfare class ever pulled was to have themselves lumped in with the working class. We really need to seperate them.

    Not one single person here, serious, trolling or otherwise would say a single bad thing about social housing if it was a bunch of cleaners and deli workers and waitresses going to be moving in next to you.

    Every poster is well aware that all of the negative comments are only directed towards the 62% of social housing applicants who derive absolutely no income from work.


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    #265
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Boards.ie hatred of the working class in full view here.

    Seems to me that in Ireland, while there is a "working class", they're a minority now. The middle class has spread outwards on both sides. lower middle class and upper middle class.

    And then we have the working class which has shrunk to include its traditional types, but unfortunately, for them, they're lumped in with the dickheads with entitlement issues who refuse to seek to better themselves. Working class people were honest about who they were.. this whole group of people entitled to everything.. are not working class. They're not any class. They're just leeches.


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    #266
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    banie01 wrote: »
    Ultra late term abortion ;)

    It’s never too late


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    #267
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Boards.ie hatred of the working class in full view here.

    This site is becoming ever more irrelevant.

    Non working class you mean


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    #268
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Oh look another thread to bash people in social housing, well i never....

    And what’s wrong with bashing them ! We pay for the privilege ! They still get there dole , clog up every doctors rosta with there flu like symptoms , still get there free houses or rent money !
    Bashing bring it on , it’s only starting just wait till people get sick of holding this country to ransom for building free houses for people that won’t even mind or appreciate them after !
    The election said it all if government have any sense they’ll forget looking and supporting them for a vote that will never come !


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    #269
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Non working class you mean

    Serious genuine question are you stupid?

    I just said I worked and the people either side of me worked.

    You try turning that attitude towards any other group and see how you get on.

    Posts here saying we should be housed nexts to prisons I have no relatives with any criminal records stupid and uniformed jibes.

    I should be interned away from the capital all go under the radar here and yet I have a moderator chomping on the bit to ban me.

    Jesus Christ some of you people are just toffy nose snobs.


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    #270
    Enter name here
    Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    Easiest way to fix the problem is wind back the clock 200 years and create workhouses.

    Workhouses are a great way to encourage those to better themselves.


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    #271
    Millionaire only not
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Enter name here wrote: »
    Social housing should be built around existing jails, that way the residents wont have far to travel to visit relatives or family.

    Social housing should be NEVER built in areas with owner occupiers. And yes we need to stigmatise these freeloaders into contributing to society.

    Or better still built internment camps in rural Ireland and house them there.

    Would u please put ur name forward for election next time ! We’ll even make u president !


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