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Greatest League in the World 2024 [new thread available]

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    I don't have a sub as if I'm not at a game, I'm doing something that's stopping me going to a game so can't watch anyway.

    The problem really is that the LOIs product is live, be there in the flesh football, so I think viewing figures will always be low unless your UK football fan buys into it but I can't see that happening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    The away games in Cork, Derry and Sligo are worth the €120 to me anyway ( and perhaps Waterford next year?)

    Bohs tonight is another example. Sold out but I can still get to see it🙂



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    If I didn't travel to those away games I would purchase. It's probably easier following the Dublin club as most away matches are within an hour drive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Since the takeover in November 2021, it has been a basic principle of our club to put the focus on our players and staff. 


    We want everyone with a connection to our town to be proud of their team and to spend their Friday’s looking forward to that evening’s game. We are all looking forward to getting behind Stephen and the lads in Dalymount Park tonight. It has been a very busy week and we can’t wait for kick-off time. 


    With this in mind, releasing statements or open letters regarding off-field matters on the day of the match is far from ideal. However, given the concerns being expressed by Dundalk fans and people connected with the club about our future direction, we feel that we must make direct contact with you all today to explain our thoughts.


    Firstly, we understand completely that many supporters are concerned about the reports from the UK. The recent history of takeovers at Dundalk FC was quite traumatic for all of us. Without any context or information regarding how a potential partnership with another club could work, it is, of course, inevitable that many supporters will be anxious about any further ownership changes.


    We hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will understand why we have needed to be cautious about sharing such information up to this point. However, we have a bigger responsibility to be open with supporters when they are expressing their genuine concerns.


    What are the key objectives of our club? 


    Last year, nearly 700 supporters gave us detailed feedback via our Supporter Consultation survey. Over 75% of supporters told us that the most important reason they support the club was because ‘the club represents our community’. This result was not unexpected. Therefore, one of our key objectives is our community work. One recent example is the launch, with the great support of Fyffes, of the Harry Taaffe Mental Health Programme. Over the coming months we hope to expand our community operations into more areas.


    Our next key objective is, obviously, the success of our football team. Last season, we secured a return to European football. Our aim this year is to provide Stephen with as much support as possible in order to continue to improve. The first-team budget has increased while we have appointed Brian Gartland as our new Head of Football Operations. While it is hugely challenging in such a competitive league where many clubs are making major improvements, we believe we have a fantastic manager, a brilliant coaching team, and a very talented and dedicated group of players. 


    Another key objective is to improve the facilities at Oriel Park. This is a legacy issue and we know it needs to be confronted. It was unsurprising that over 90% of respondents to our supporter survey said that Oriel Park was not fit for purpose. Oriel Park is a home we are proud of – but it is clear that it is a major barrier to improving attendances and overall club development. 

    For everybody involved at the club, the key issue is how can we maintain a high standard on the pitch while also improving our outdated facilities. 


    This is why we have been open about the possibility of further investment in the club. 


    The club has not, as was stated in the media, been “offered around to interested parties”. Such comments give the impression that we are desperately trying to sell the club. The truth is that not only are we not desperate to sell the club, but we are not trying to sell the club at all. The club is financially stable, we are progressing, we have qualified for Europe, and this is only the start of our second season.


    However, we need to be honest about our limitations. We will need partners if we wish to achieve our goal of maintaining a strong team on the pitch while simultaneously modernising Oriel Park. 


    In the past 15 months, we have been approached by 10 serious individuals or groups who wanted to explore the possibility of investing in the club. 

    We have always maintained that the future development of Dundalk Football Club is much more important than our personal ownership of the club. It would be very narrow minded of us, as an ownership group, not to explore any opportunity to help improve the support we can give our manager and to begin the process of making ground improvements. 


    Despite the reports stating otherwise, we remain in talks with three different groups. These discussions include all scenarios of investment, shareholding, and ownership. 


    Absolutely nothing has been agreed or finalised. 


    An agreement may be reached within days, it may take several more weeks or months, or may not happen at all. This is a very unpredictable business. While we are keen to make an agreement that will benefit the club, it will need to be something that genuinely makes us excited in order for us to complete any deal. Community development, helping us compete on the pitch, and facility improvements are at the cornerstone of all of our discussions. 


    As an ownership group, and as Dundalk FC supporters, we are mindful of the turbulent period that the club went through in recent years and we want to assure everyone that if any of these options reaches a successful conclusion, it will leave Dundalk Football Club in a much stronger position to meet all of our community, football, and development ambitions.


    Many of these discussions are, of course, confidential and involve Non-Disclosure Agreements. It is very difficult to talk about these matters in public or react to every news story or tweet. However, we do understand that we need to do more. Our next update will be on Tuesday when Sean will sit down with Gavin for an interview and we will keep you up to up to date through our official club channels on a more regular basis. 


    Please continue to give us the incredible level of support that we have received since the takeover in November 2021. We faced a major challenge to rebuild all levels of the club in 2022. Was everything a success? Absolutely not. Are there problems to address? Of course, but you can be absolutely sure that the biggest critics of our performance are not in the press or on social media but are involved with Dundalk FC on a day-to-day basis. 


    From our first team to our academy and administration, everybody is working hard to improve all aspects of the club. If we reach an agreement with a new partner, whether as a minority or majority shareholding, it will make these challenges easier to overcome. 


    Please do not fear or believe any negative perspectives of possible changes in the ownership group. All decisions will be made with the sole intention of making our club stronger.


    Finally, we would like to wish Stevie and the lads all the best tonight against Bohs. Safe travels to everybody making the trip. We also wish all of our boys and girls academy coaches and players great success this year as they prepare to begin their respective campaigns.


    Sean O’Connor, Andy Connolly, Alan Clarke.



    Bit long but nothing decided yet ( letter received by Dundalk supporters this morning)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Sean O’Connor, Andy Connolly, Alan Clarke.


    Not sure which one of these guys it was but one of them did an interview a month ago and basically called a local journalist a liar after he reported Dundalk was for sale. They can call it what they want but that is what it is. Dundalk is clearly for sale and he lied straight to the fans about it. They were forced to put out this empty statement because of the Hull manager's comments.

    Comments that should worry every Dundalk fan by the way. He's talking about how if Hull own Dundalk then Dundalk have to play a certain way so both clubs are aligned. Absolutely bonkers stuff. The club would be reduced to a farm club for a bmg average Championship club and I don't see O'Donnell hanging about if he's being told how to play by the likes of Liam Rosenior.

    Thank god I don't have to worry about bollocks like this happening to my club.



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Maybe the lad who owns Hull hates Trabzonspor and wants to take them on indirectly via the Louth Derby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    What is the link between Drogheda and Trabzonspor?


    edit- googled it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    But lads, Peak 6 are going to take on the FAI and fix the league!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The number of Dundalk fans on social media saying they feel reassured after that empty statement isn't surprising. The same fanbase thought they were going to be the Irish Man City after a single Q&A with Peak6.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,496 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Looks like a big crowd in Bray, hopefully it can keep up.

    Just gone 1 up too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Only just noticed all ten first division clubs are from different counties. Really good for the league in general to have such a good spread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Absolute headloss from rovers, down to 9 while dominating. Clearly and grace gone on second yellows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Refereeing at the Bowl has been awful. "The foul happened outside the shagging box" as the UCD commentator put it for our 2nd penalty. I hope that piece of commentary makes it into the highlights.

    UCD deserve a point at the very least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭kksaints


    We were pretty awful but got the 3 points thanks to an Eoin Doyle poachers goal. Shels extremely defensive, they won't concede many but they won't score many either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Poor performance from Rovers apart from maybe the first 15 or 20 mins of the second half. Created very few clearcut chances. Brainless stuff getting two men sent off, Grace's 2nd yellow in particular was idiotic. Droghedas young defender on the edge of the box going away from goal and Grace dives in with a tackle. Can't blame the referee tonight. Derry could easily have a 5 point lead this time next week considering we will struggle to field a back line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    Terrific game in United Park.

    Rovers, as you would expect, were better at 11 v 11.

    Drogheda keeper makes two great saves and then gifts Rovers the opener.

    Grace and Cleary had only themselves to blame for the red cards. Super equaliser from Ryan Brennan and then we seemed to have a good shout for a penalty when Mannus seemed to take down a Drogheda player.

    Very happy with 1-1 though and we played well.

    We have two gems from Lincoln in Draper and Ahui. Both look like great prospects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Very happy tonight with that, but would be great if they could not give me a heart attack every week.

    Officials tonight came out with baffling decisions. So many yellows and wasn't even a dirty game.



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,685 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Yeah was questioning that. Seemed to be a yellow shown for very other foul



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Ah I'm not sure what the ref was thinking for a few of them. Connolly got booked for kicking the ball away for a free to us?! The mind boggles.


    Overall though, look a team transformed from last year.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Talbot got booked for time-wasting when he didn't even have a ball to kick out.

    Dalymount was rocking though. Great start and we looked pretty comfortable even after their goal. Last year we would have **** ourselves.

    Odd feeling to actually look forward to going to a match now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,281 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Comfortable one nil for us against, an always unpleasant to watch, Treaty. We weren't great but didn't really have to be, Winn made a couple of good saves to keep at 1.

    Waterford dropping 2 points at home makes our game down there more important next week. Great to see Athlone and Cobh making good starts to the season too, makes the division that bit more unpredictable.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Couldn't see it from the crowd but watched it back there and, Jesus Christ, it's not even debateable. It's way outside the box. Referee was in a perfect position as well so no excuse for that.

    League table was looking mighty fine for a period in the second half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,496 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Got your wish, its made the cut. Even worse that the booking for a dive 5 mins later



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭tastyt


    Seems to be an even bigger buzz than usual to start of the season , it’s great to see , crowds up everywhere too . I know we all know it in here but so much potential out there . As someone else said it’s also good to see Athlone start well . Crowds at Galway and Waterford in first div are on a par with premier div attendances only a few years ago.

    Underage leagues and community work really imbedding league of Irelands clubs as real part of the community now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    592 at Lissywollen tonight according to the FAI app, which is double what they had 12 months ago for their opening game against Waterford. If they get another good result in Wexford next week there could be a big bump against Waterford the following week.

    The other 1D attendances were very good. 2836 in Waterford. 2304 in Galway. 1300 in both Bray and Cobh.

    Looked like more than 700 people (official attendance) to me at the Bowl, but @Hammer Archer would be able to give a better estimate. Maybe 700 is correct.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,058 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Comfortable win for us tonight v Cork, without playing well. They offered little.

    Great to hear of the 2 reds for Rovers, gives us a better chance next week. Pity we are missing 4 first teamers ourselves, although Diallo should be back for it.

    Any word on Rte showing it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,566 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Can’t argue with this. Probably worth a point, but we were never likely to win it. We’re lost without Boyd up top.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Zico


    What's behind the recent surge in LoI attendances?

    RTE coverage finally reaching the masses, Boards.ie spreading the gospel, John Delaney not around making a joke of domestic soccer or...Covid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,496 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    I'd assume the marketing is helping, the standardised look and just getting the league onto screens...seems like more engagement by the fai towards this. Seems a lot of positivity on social media too, so maybe people giving it a go on back of this although maybe too early in season to know



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    People want to be part of it. I think social media drives a lot of it. It's hard to feel connected to Manchester United or Liverpool when they post their millionairs on social media and the comments are full of Afrcian and Indian lads giving out (no disrespect to them in particular) and I think the cringiness of that reflects back on them as someone from Ireland supporting an English team.

    There's much more change of a connection with your team when they are lads from your same estate, same town, go to the same supermarket and pubs as you etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    the next step is for LOI TV to become viable financially. Then the league is really onto a winner because it can show rte, virgin etc that the league is worthy of a tv deal. It’s important for me personally coz I don’t live in Ireland, I will struggle to retain interest if LOI tv folds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Yeah hard to disagree with that defences on top with not much quality in the final third from both teams. I think Pats still look well short of Rovers/Derry to put in a title challenge and I'm worried about us putting the ball in the back of the net that it could be a closer than anticipated mix of Shels/Cork/Drogheda/UCD in a bottom four



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭deisedude


    I've only got into the league myself in the past few years and personally for me Watch LOI and LOITV over COVID really helped me get into it and just a general disillusionment with the sick money being thrown around the Premier league. League of Ireland probably still has that counter culture vibe off it which will attract people

    Eventhough my username suggests otherwise I live in rural Cork these days and started going to Cork City games over the past season which I've really enjoyed



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    I'd say 800-900 possibly which is a good crowd for a game against a non Dublin side. Stand was fairly full without being jammed. And there was a very healthy (for us) crowd supporting UCD which was nice to see. Good amount of kids and teenagers included so hopefully they keep coming back.

    Already a massive game for us against Cork next week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭Awesomeness


    Loi TV is great. Even just for away matches or rivals matches. Unfortunately I feel like it will inevitably fold due to the amount of people watching on dodgy boxes. They will also be the ones complaining the loudest when the games are no longer available



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,058 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I also think the standard has improved across the board.

    Most teams try to play a bit of football now, and most games are relatively entertaining.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    I think a big factor and I’m completely serious is that the LOI is the only competition in Ireland that has limbs/fans going mental week in, week out. GAA doesn’t have that, neither does rugby.

    People at LOI games look like they are having a blast when a big goal is scored. The player who scored don’t even look like he’s having a blast when a Gaelic football or hurling goal is scored. It’s feels very repressed.

    i think there’s a huge multitude of reasons but this is one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,267 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    I was looking at the fixtures pre seaon and I felt this would be where we would pick up our first points.

    Now, I'm not too sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Very good atmosphere in Galway last night, and a good buzz around the place in general. Plenty teens / early 20s who were there of their own accord too. Gonna try and get to more games than usual this year now again.

    The win always helps!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,281 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    If the on field product improved we'd get and keep more too.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    National team focusing players who have left the league, national team manager, Duff, Rovers doing well draws crowds, accessible online based coverage (viral moments), women's team at the World Cup who play in Tallaght, and highlights that does not rely on RTE...

    And the online/ accessible coverage point is why trying to get LOITV to be profitable should be a secondary concern to getting regular footage and coverage out there on phones or boxes or streams.

    As for the game, if Rovers kept it 11 v 11, they hold on.....again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    There are several videos floating around twitter with the "the challenge happened outside the shaggin' box!" highlight. Probably close to 100k views between all of them.

    No publicity is bad publicity I suppose. Gets the league out there 😅



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Any Dundalk fans in Dalymount last night? What was the new stand like?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Boyd out for at least 2 months is going to be a major struggle now - he was a big loss Friday. Will need someone like Mattie, Moylan or one of the new lads to step up to bag a few goals.

    The corner resulting in the goal definitely looked like it went straight out without a touch off a Shels player... Hopefully some highlights up soon. Neil Doyle overall was a shambles on Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,566 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    It’s not even Boyd as a goal scorer I’m worried about. We’re so much better without the ball than we are in possession, so having that big man up top makes a gigantic difference in us being able to keep the ball in the opposition half.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,392 ✭✭✭PGE1970


    I read that Duff refused to shake hands with Tim Clancy last Friday night.

    Anyone know if this is true and, if so, why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Yes, A beef from last season. Seems beef mainly coming from Duff’s side



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