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Greatest League in the World 2024 [new thread available]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Should have been put to bed a lot earlier.

    Cleary and Mountney could have scored as well.

    Bohs well organized,Keith Long doing a super job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭kksaints


    You'd forget how loud Ollie Horgan and Paul Hegarthy are until you hear them on the Watchloi stream as if they were right beside you shouting into your ear. We're 2-0 up at halftime Georgie Kelly with the goals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    kksaints wrote: »
    You'd forget how loud Ollie Horgan and Paul Hegarthy are until you hear them on the Watchloi stream as if they were right beside you shouting into your ear. We're 2-0 up at halftime Georgie Kelly with the goals.

    Is Paul the harps Assistant? He nearly burst my ear drum in the markets field a few years back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭kksaints


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Is Paul the harps Assistant? He nearly burst my ear drum in the markets field a few years back

    As far as I know he is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Signing David McMillan and letting Georgie go :confused:


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Yep having some sound issues, commentary seems to be gone completely for me now. 1-0 Bohs, good cross in by Breslin and Grant heads in at the far post.

    Was that team news from Bohs earlier legit? It said Mandroiu is missing (gargled) :confused:

    20200807-213652.jpg

    Although, they retracted it. :pac: :pac:

    https://twitter.com/bfcdublin/status/1291831173375721475


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Comfortable 2-0 win for us. Some of our performance was a bit scratchy particularly sections of the 2nd half but Harps offered very little threat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Cork & Harps seem hopeless...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,811 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    deisedude wrote: »
    Cork continuing last year's transfer policy which worked so well of throwing sh1t at a wall and seeing which sticks

    Because Waterfords has been so precise. Signed plenty of random ones as well.

    Imagine strenghtening a position which had zero players there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭ShatterProof


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Cork & Harps seem hopeless...

    Dundalk could be dragged into relegation battle yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,953 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Sponsors, fan donations. Certainly not the fùcking FAI.

    Certainly not considering it was the clubs subsidising the FAI for the last decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Georgie Kelly 2 goals for Pats last night probably sums up some of Dundalk's transfer business last few years.

    Getting in lot of players but none making an impact. e GeorgiKelly did but Dundalk keep playing Hoban who is poor. His goal ratio from play last 2 seasons would be very poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    MD1990 wrote: »
    Georgie Kelly 2 goals for Pats last night probably sums up some of Dundalk's transfer business last few years.

    Getting in lot of players but none making an impact. e GeorgiKelly did but Dundalk keep playing Hoban who is poor. His goal ratio from play last 2 seasons would be very poor.


    For a club with the resources they have their transfer policy seems completely aimless. They have about a dozen wingers for starters. It's very poor all things considered.



    Do Dundalk have a director of football type role or who is it making the transfer decisions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Dundalk could be dragged into relegation battle yet.

    The 12 points we picked up pre lockdown will probably be enough. No excuses, we were poor against pats and Bohs. Benson and McGrath big losses. Georgie was never given a decent run. At the top, Kenny. Higgins and O'Donnell hard act to follow. From 2013 to 2019 was a magical spin, we will always be gratteful. I didn't think anything would equal or surpass the McLaughlin era.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Cork playing better today although not a great game overall. Players looked tired after about 30 minutes. I'm surprised there was no drink break given the weather today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,676 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Oat23 wrote: »
    Cork playing better today although not a great game overall. Players looked tired after about 30 minutes. I'm surprised there was no drink break given the weather today?
    That's the most positive first half we've had all season. The 3 at the back seems to be holding together well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Cracking goal from Hery for Linfield in their CL match. They were struggling against Fiori until he came on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,676 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    That is a point gained for City. Hopefully Shels do us a favour later on and we have those 2 strikers in for Sligo Friday. Much much better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Dundalk could be dragged into relegation battle yet.

    They certainly have looked poor since the restart


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Sligo 1-0 up after 30 seconds :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Messaged a Shels fan about an hour ago telling him at least they won't have to worry about defending the left side of the pitch with Devers starting again, then he goes and scores within a minute. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Textbook example of centre-halfs and left back snoozing not expecting that they would have to do some defending 30 seconds into a game

    Really frustrating that I think every goal we have conceded has been due to piss poor defending. Plenty of time but we look like one of these dogged teams who struggle at chasing games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,561 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    This tactic of passing the ball across the back until a prime opportunity for hoofball is on, is not easy on the eye at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    We're ****e. I'm still optimistic Harps and Cork may be worse than us


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,250 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Good point for City, happy with that, pity shels losing though. Every point is going to be like gold dust at the bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,953 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    If you've no goal scorer, team is gonna struggle when it concedes in the first minute. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,561 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    If you've no goal scorer, team is gonna struggle when it concedes in the first minute. :(

    I mean we didn’t play a minutes football throughout the 90. It’s a seriously worrying situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Re tomorrow’s draw. No sure Linfield arn’t better off from a money point of view. They meet nobody , pick up money from the off and are certainly no worse off. Apparently northern teams in the first round next year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    If you've no goal scorer, team is gonna struggle when it concedes in the first minute. :(
    What did the management and DOF expect when we play our most promising forward Kabia as a wide-winger and have recruited have 7 defensively minded central midfielders out of a current squad of 24

    I'm just relieved we have 9 points with 11 games to go. I think there is good chance 15/16 points will snatch 8th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Couldn't have asked for a better start really. 2 wins from 2 and we've played some nice football at times. Hopefully Seymore's hamstring is fine.

    De Vries looks like he'll be a good signing for us. Read an article earlier that said since he's joined he has travelled over 50,000km back and forth between Ireland and New Zealand to make only 2 appearances which is mad.

    Get Junior into the side and, barring injuries, we should be safe.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Dundalk looking like they could get a tricky tie, they face either Flora Talinn, KuPS of Finland, NK Celje of Slovenia or KI of Faroe islands.

    Faroe Islands team would be ideal draw but their league has been ongoing now for a while, Celje would be worst draw


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Faroe islands and Slovenia’s unfortunately not on the ‘green’ list Estonia, Finland are ok, which means if we draw them ( Faroe Islanders/Slovenia)away we have to isolate and if we draw them at home they isolate, which UEFA rightfully won’t allow. The way we’re playing now ............


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    They are few and far between, which helps to explain why the sport of football is a financial basket case.

    The clubs in the LOI can choose the Lucid ideology; to copy the EPL on a much smaller scale and go down the route of private investment, rampant commercialisation and marketing, football via technology, etc.. Even if it "worked" and a bunch of casual customers jumped on the bandwagon for a while, it would be soulless and unsustainable.

    The ideology at the other end of the spectrum involves building football clubs around their supporters; through memberships and season tickets. That takes time and effort, to invite football fans from your city into your club and convert them for life, which is why some clubs reject it for a quick gamble instead.

    It seems a bit strange to find a number of LOI football fans on the internet who favour the first scenario, until you realise over time that many of them are not active supporters in the real world.

    The truth lies in between your two extremes with a solid fanbase and investment to take the clubs as far as they can go. It's up to the members and fanbase to judge which is good or bad and make sure it is in their favour.

    Members and numbers of ST holders are very prone to success on the pitch with a drop in fans with poor performances.
    This was your go-to line when the excessive inequality in the league was coming to the fore during the restart negotiations. It sounds like something an apologist for capitalism would say, but either way it looks out of place beside the question you asked.

    The main issue that came to the fore over the restart is the self interest of the clubs and the lack of authority of the FAI. League tables across the world match the resources of the teams involved and they always will.
    Depends on their circumstances, what they stand for as clubs and what they think about the motives of an investor.

    Should a football club automatically accept investment? Absolutely not, only a fool would take money from a stranger without asking the obvious question.

    No-one said automatically accept investment. It's their own judgement, what can stop them....

    Investment is often the only way of climbing up in any league. Of course they should judge the investment for themselves first.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Dundalk draw NK Celje away. Bad draw as Celje finished their season in really good form recently


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    It's worse than that. If. Dúndalk travel they will have to isolate on return. Their league hasn't started yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭prodsc


    joeysoap wrote: »
    It's worse than that. If. Dúndalk travel they will have to isolate on return. Their league hasn't started yet.

    The game can be played at a neutral venue that is on the Green List (Hungary or Italy) I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    European football just isn't practical on so many levels at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    dfx- wrote: »
    It's up to the members and fanbase to judge which is good or bad and make sure it is in their favour.

    Something we agree on. Always in favour of a militant and intelligent fanbase at a football club.
    dfx- wrote: »
    Members and numbers of ST holders are very prone to success on the pitch with a drop in fans with poor performances.

    Members and season ticket holders provide by far the most reliable long-term income to a football club. Some clubs in Ireland don't have a base of members and ST holders to speak of and seem more interested in buying a short-term audience of customers with success on the pitch.
    dfx- wrote: »
    League tables across the world match the resources of the teams involved and they always will.

    League tables across Europe have become a farce over the last decade.

    Modern decadence is highlighted by the financial insulation of the superclub (Indo)
    As you win a ninth straight title (Juve), or an eighth in 11 years (Barca), or an eighth in a row (Bayern Munich) or a seventh in eight years (Paris Saint-Germain), it probably doesn't seem a worthwhile challenge any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭Underground


    Am I reading this right? Rovers vs Derry available on WatchLOI in all countries except The Island of Ireland...what??????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭frantic190


    Am I reading this right? Rovers vs Derry available on WatchLOI in all countries except The Island of Ireland...what??????


    They don't show any of the televised games in Ireland. I think it's on Eir Sport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,042 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    The absolute state of that pitch. That has to be deliberate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭pancake_tuesday


    Anyone able to PM me a link to view the game that'a not Skorlive?!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    dreadful pitch, the ball isn't carrying - underhit passes, ball getting stuck under their feet causing players to cut back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The amount of lemons on social media complaining about the game not being available on WatchLOI in Ireland is amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,373 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Seriously jammy equaliser for Shams but they were well on top for the 10-15 minutes before scoring. Derry punished for playing so deep.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,250 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Rovers did well to come back for the win. 4 of the bottom 5 playing each other next.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,254 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    prodsc wrote: »
    The game can be played at a neutral venue that is on the Green List (Hungary or Italy) I believe.

    But why should Celje give up home advantage because Dundalk have to quarantine?

    I think If Dundalk were drawn at home to Celje, and we told them they had to isolate, then THEY could insist on a neutral country and if Dundalk didn’t agree then it was 0 - 3 to Celje.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    big win for the squad second half - Gaffney, Farrugia, Williams, Burke made a difference, more direct. Superb athleticism from Mannus for the final save to get up after the ball hit the bar and get across.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    dfx- wrote: »
    big win for the squad second half - Gaffney, Farrugia, Williams, Burke made a difference, more direct. Superb athleticism from Mannus for the final save to get up after the ball hit the bar and get across.

    At 38 what a keeper he is at that age.

    Really looks after himself. Should be able to stay playing at 40 at least.


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