Greatest League in the World 2024 [new thread available]

Guffy

joeysoap wrote: »

[QUOTE=Guffy;114800447]How much of Dundalk's winnings will be withdrawn as ROI and how much will actually be reinvested into the club?

Not again.[/quote]

It's a genuine question when the last couple of pages have people saying Dundalk will be up there for the next 10 years cause of this prize money.

How much money would they actually need to compete for the next 5 years, as i wouldn't expect that they are going to get the whole lot obviously. And surely just reinvesting in the squad is a very short term strategy.

Zebra3

joeysoap wrote: »

Millionaires (generally) don’t give away money. That’s why their millionaires but
I take your point, a sugar daddy is what every club needs.

Dundalk earned their money, who would have bet after Celje that would happen ? ( benevolent draws included)

Who's talking about lowly millionaires? :pac:

eire4

joeysoap wrote: »

Don't forget the €2m for Doherty. It'll go a long way (pun intended )

About 500,000 will go to Belvedere where Doherty started but still a very timely financial boost for Bohemians given the current climate. Still though no way Bohemians can compete yet with Dundalk or Shamrock Rovers financially.

Ferris_Bueller

That's a good draw for Dundalk. They have their glamour tie with Arsenal and from the other two pots they got some of the better options. Don't think they will be winning any games this time around but might be able to get a result against Molde. All you can ask for at this stage is to come up against teams where you have a bit of hope.

ShatterProof

with Dublin in lock down and oriel being a sh***ole maybe move it to some place like Thomond park to get some fans in, or even Windsor Park

joeysoap

Nice little bit of information ( For Rovers next year if they don’t make the group stages- not being smart)

In addition
Each domestic champion club that does not qualify for the group stage €0.26m


So Dundalk would have got this if KI , Sheriff or Andora beat them.

Oat23

:pac:

https://twitter.com/munsderbyfacts/status/1311994117870825472

pgj2015

scouserstation wrote: »

I still think Rovers will be the dominant club going forward, their making steps in all the right places with their youth academy, training facilities, Tallaght stadium with regular attendances of around 4 - 7k for home games, and my money would be on them making the group stages of the new uefa conference next season aswell

Although Dundalk have this windfall as their safety net for now there are some red flags I'd be worried about an over inflated wage bill and poor spectator facilities as well as not having the same catchment area to grow a fan base and recruit younger players to the area that could hold them back going forward, I think peak 6 will have to come up with a solid plan to keep the club moving in the right direction going forward

Dundalk get people travelling big distances to see them, so their catchment is anywhere within a 3 hour radius, they have been the best team in Ireland for the last 5 years so they have gained new fans from around the country. This europa league run will only help gain more fans from around the country. There was a shout out to some family who travelled from tipperary to oriel park one night, thats a long journey but you will get people who dont mind if they can watch good quality live football.

Zebra3

pgj2015 wrote: »

Dundalk get people travelling big distances to see them, so their catchment is anywhere within a 3 hour radius, they have been the best team in Ireland for the last 5 years so they have gained new fans from around the country. This europa league run will only help gain more fans from around the country. There was a shout out to some family who travelled from tipperary to oriel park one night, thats a long journey but you will get people who dont mind if they can watch good quality live football.

Big numbers of people don't travel three hours to watch a LoI team play at home on a regular basis.

There are a few who do, but not many that will make or break a club's budget.

pgj2015

Zebra3 wrote: »

Big numbers of people don't travel three hours to watch a LoI team play at home on a regular basis.

There are a few who do, but not many that will make or break a club's budget.

would they travel 1 hour? id say they would, 1 hour is nothing in a car. and the dublin clubs have other dublin clubs to compete with.

dfx-

eire4 wrote: »

About 500,000 will go to Belvedere where Doherty started but still a very timely financial boost for Bohemians given the current climate. Still though no way Bohemians can compete yet with Dundalk or Shamrock Rovers financially.

1.5m at Bohs would go a lot further than 4m at Dundalk. It's a question of how they get that money - I would've thought it is not going to be a lump sum or straight away.

In terms of the draw, it depends on what order the fixtures are. As the season goes on, the LOI sides lose the fitness advantage and probably will be competitive for the early group fixtures.

Zebra3

Back to basics for the league tonight.

After Dundalk reaching the EL group stages it’s back to our wonderful officials.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioCleary/status/1312084156906647553

Beersmith

Zebra3 wrote: »

Back to basics for the league tonight.

After Dundalk reaching the EL group stages it’s back to our wonderful officials.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioCleary/status/1312084156906647553

huh? Looked like a stonewall peno to me?!!! He hit his left leg. Don't know why the commentator mentions he had his back to goal like that has anything to do with it!

ShamoBuc

What an awful goalkeeping error for Rovers first.

Captain Havoc

ShamoBuc wrote: »

What an awful goalkeeping error for Rovers first.

Thought the defense was worse, how was Finn allowed so much time?

Zebra3

Captain Havoc wrote: »

Thought the defense was worse, how was Finn allowed so much time?

Still. The keeper.

ShamoBuc

He really was given a ridiculous amount of space and time.

deisedude

Paddy Power are a sh1t stain on Irish society.

Their attempts at banter are pathetic. You would have to have really low IQ to find those banners funny

Zebra3

deisedude wrote: »

Paddy Power are a sh1t stain on Irish society.

Their attempts at banter are pathetic. You would have to have really low IQ to find those banners funny

I'd say the only people who think they are funny are people who think Jay in the Inbetweeners is a role model.

topmanamillion

pgj2015 wrote: »

would they travel 1 hour? id say they would, 1 hour is nothing in a car. and the dublin clubs have other dublin clubs to compete with.

You'll get the odd one but not in big numbers.

The core LOI crowd is within walking distance of grounds. It's why the likes of Longford and Wexford are going nowhere with their grounds miles outside of the town.
Once supporters have to drive to a ground you immediately take out the pub crowd that'll go for a few drinks before a game and make a night of it.

Oat23

Apart from the mistake from McGinty we've played fairly well.

Expecting to get hit on the counter for 2-0, though.

Captain Havoc

topmanamillion wrote: »

You'll get the odd one but not in big numbers.

The core LOI crowd is within walking distance of grounds. It's why the likes of Longford and Wexford are going nowhere with their grounds miles outside of the town.
Once supporters have to drive to a ground you immediately take out the pub crowd that'll go for a few drinks before a game and make a night of it.

This is what killed Kilkenny city.

doncarlos

Oat23 wrote: »

Apart from the mistake from McGinty we've played fairly well.

Expecting to get hit on the counter for 2-0, though.

He never does that against Dundalk, always pulls off a good performance.

Oat23

doncarlos wrote: »

He never does that against Dundalk, always pulls off a good performance.

Overall he's a decent keeper to be honest. He's only just turned 21 so he'll continue improving. He was called into the U21 squad the other week.

Off the top of my head you have Rogers, Murphy, Mannus, Cherrie and McNulty not far off 40 who are starting in goal for other sides in the league. I'm happy we have a young lad with a lot of room to improve.

edit: I forgot about Brendan Clarke! He must be getting up there now as well. The average age of starting keepers in the league must be mad.

Oat23

We're going to get smashed if Bucko doeesn't change something.


Noone isn't good enough for the premier. Penninkangas isn't a left back. Devers runs a lot but doesn't offer anything else. Junior again isolated on the wing.

Mushy

The first division title race is where the real fun is

pgj2015

topmanamillion wrote: »

You'll get the odd one but not in big numbers.

The core LOI crowd is within walking distance of grounds. It's why the likes of Longford and Wexford are going nowhere with their grounds miles outside of the town.
Once supporters have to drive to a ground you immediately take out the pub crowd that'll go for a few drinks before a game and make a night of it.

That is one thing I never cared about drinking before, during or after a game.

PTH2009

Think next season its Rovers, Dundalk and Bohs cause of the money and then 4-10 fighting for relegation/4th

doncarlos

PTH2009 wrote: »

Think next season its Rovers, Dundalk and Bohs cause of the money and then 4-10 fighting for relegation/4th

If Rovers hold on to Jack Byrne it'll be a serious challenge for anyone to catch them next year. Really n good squad but he's a game changer

pgj2015

doncarlos wrote: »

If Rovers hold on to Jack Byrne it'll be a serious challenge for anyone to catch them next year. Really n good squad but he's a game changer

I think sean murray can be our jack byrne next year, I think he like byrne is a player that is too good for this league.

tastyt

pgj2015 wrote: »

I think sean murray can be our jack byrne next year, I think he like byrne is a player that is too good for this league.

No disrespect to Murray , fine player but he isn’t a patch on Byrne.

I think Byrne is Ireland’s best midfielder, he’s just not playing in a league that people accept as good enough yet. Just my opinion but he’s the best iv ever seen in the league, just so obviously a level or two above , even more so than Wes was.

pgj2015

tastyt wrote: »

No disrespect to Murray , fine player but he isn’t a patch on Byrne.

I think Byrne is Ireland’s best midfielder, he’s just not playing in a league that people accept as good enough yet. Just my opinion but he’s the best iv ever seen in the league, just so obviously a level or two above , even more so than Wes was.

Not as good as mccourt though. I think murray is a lot better this year than last and will be even better next year.

Liberta Per Gli Ultra

Organisational Changes at Shamrock Rovers F.C.

At the behest of Mr. Dermot Desmond, there will be a new chairperson at the "company" from the end of the season.

dfx-

Good stuff from Rovers. Mannus had nothing to do, but they scored the first two at the right times and took advantage. Could've been more in the end.

Four points to go..

Looks like a team could get into Europe with a negative goal difference in fourth...

joeysoap

If FlashScore are correct Dundalk have 9 matches between 4/11 and 30/11.

Pity we’re home to Arsenal last match of the group on 10/12, probably be little interest by then and the group long decided. Away to Arsenal on 29/10 . Home to Molde first on 22/10.

PGE1970

Jack Byrne is fabulous. An outstanding player.

I'm watching LoI over 40 years and he is the best midfielder since Tony Sheridan in the 90s.

He is as good as the best that I've seen in the league - Barry Kehoe and Liam Coyle. Mick Byrne was up there too.

Rovers fans will be telling their grandkids about this fella.

Chalk McHugh

PGE1970 wrote: »

Jack Byrne is fabulous. An outstanding player.

I'm watching LoI over 40 years and he is the best midfielder since Tony Sheridan in the 90s.

He is as good as the best that I've seen in the league - Barry Kehoe and Liam Coyle. Mick Byrne was up there too.

Rovers fans will be telling their grandkids about this fella.

Nice player, no doubt about it. When he's on form he's a class act. Some of the best midfielders i've seen are the likes of Kevin Hunt Bohs, Wes Hoolahan, Paddy McCourt, Joseph Ndo and even though he lacks the skill of others i would put Chris Shields up there as most influential midfielders.

fatbhoy

I also think Jack Byrne is the best to have played LOI.

Others whose talent impressed me, that I witnessed, were:

Ricky McEvoy
Eamon Deacy
Barry Kehoe
Bryan Flynn
Tony Sheridan
Joe Ndo
Wes Hoolahan
Pat Byrne
Jacko McDonagh
Felix Healy
EDIT: Patsy Frayne and maybe Jackie Jameson


There might be one or two others that I've forgotten over the years, but that's basically it.

fatbhoy

PGE1970 wrote: »

Jack Byrne is fabulous. An outstanding player.

I'm watching LoI over 40 years and he is the best midfielder since Tony Sheridan in the 90s.

He is as good as the best that I've seen in the league - Barry Kehoe and Liam Coyle. Mick Byrne was up there too.

Rovers fans will be telling their grandkids about this fella.

That's why I think one should get to as many live matches to witness this guy before he leaves for better things, whether you're Rovers or not.

Zebra3

pgj2015 wrote: »

That is one thing I never cared about drinking before, during or after a game.

That's fine for you, but for a lot of people drinking, or socialising, is a huge part of LoI match nights. Especially in Dublin as friends and family may now live greater distances from each other.

doncarlos

Zebra3 wrote: »

That's fine for you, but for a lot of people drinking, or socialising, is a huge part of LoI match nights. Especially in Dublin as friends and family may now live greater distances from each other.

Massive for most fans as the social aspect of being a LOI is one of it's biggest draws. I'm an exile myself and only time I get to see most of my friends is at Dundalk home and away games.

PGE1970

My last post meant Pat Byrne not Mick Byrne!

N'Do was great too. Jackie Jameson was great on his day but disappeared a lot.

Others like Martin Murray, Paul Doolin & Paddy Dillon were a joy to watch.

Jack Byrne is as good as any of them.

Irishmale0399

Lads the announced changes to the Rovers board.....any chance they have anything to do with JR being very friendly with the old FAI board and their former CEO?? Anything Rovers fans should be worried about when reports are published or if JD is put infront of the courts??

Or is the investor who was only giving money more involved in the running of the club than we are all lead to believe??? Is Dermot calling the shots or better said with his man moving into the boardroom power seat...will he be calling the shots in the future??? Doesnt sound like a fan run club when the money man is placing his people in the top seat and getting rid of the Chairman who is credited with good work.

This is a genuine question and not intended as a dig, just to make it clear in case anyone feels offended by the above.

Captain Havoc

When I was watching the match last night on telly, my wife said that she couldn't believe that I used to drive the length and breadth of the country watching matches. I retorted that watching football on TV is like watching a cookery show, it's great and all but you can't taste the food, you need to go the restaurant. I thought I was being clever but she meant because it was ****e. I had no answer, she'll never understand.

joeysoap

Cause I'm worth it

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/ex-fai-boss-john-delaney-22784059#google_vignette

Zebra3

joeysoap wrote: »

Cause I'm worth it

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/ex-fai-boss-john-delaney-22784059#google_vignette

I wonder why he had to save the FAI from bankruptcy so often.

Almost like the bloke in charge hadn't a clue.

joeysoap

Telling piece from the article


Former FAI boss John Delaney has no regrets about the decisions he made during his 14-year reign and vowed he is never coming home, pals said yesterday.

When the UK finally leave the EU will there still be extradition between the two countries? He is as shady as Del Boy ever was.

joeysoap

Oat23 wrote: »

:pac:

https://twitter.com/munsderbyfacts/status/1311994117870825472

Coming out of. the woodwork now. See rent a mouth Brian Kerr at it this morning too.

The away section is awful. The home section is only marginally better. The main stand, which is over 50 years old, isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t compare it to Tallaght, but it has the club shop, dressing rooms, and 2 bars and from a spectators viewpoint is quite good. Better than most in fact.

Meanwhile,

The full schedule

October 22 – Molde (H) – 5.55pm

October 29 – Arsenal (A) – 8pm

November 5 – Rapid Wien (A) – 5.55pm

November 26 – Rapid Wien (H) – 8pm

December 3 – Molde (A) – 8pm

December 10 – Arsenal (H) – 8pm

Irishmale0399

joeysoap wrote: »

Coming out of. the woodwork now. See rent a mouth Brian Kerr at it this morning too.

The away section is awful. The home section is only marginally better. The main stand, which is over 50 years old, isn’t bad at all. I wouldn’t compare it to Tallaght, but it has the club shop, dressing rooms, and 2 bars and from a spectators viewpoint is quite good. Better than most in fact.

There will always be people who dont like to see LOI clubs moving on. Only a few weeks ago they were having a field day when Fillipo was appointed. Suprised it hasnt been suggested yet that Dundalk give €3 million from their winnings to other clubs to help them through Covid.


Anyway, once they are talking and writing such tripe it means we are doing something right.

dan1895

Captain Havoc wrote: »

When I was watching the match last night on telly, my wife said that she couldn't believe that I used to drive the length and breadth of the country watching matches. I retorted that watching football on TV is like watching a cookery show, it's great and all but you can't taste the food, you need to go the restaurant. I thought I was being clever but she meant because it was ****e. I had no answer, she'll never understand.

My wife doesn't understand why I might want to watch a match this week when I only watched one last week.