RTE Bias

buried

ShylockWept wrote: »

MODS. Please delete this thread. I have made my point and now wish to have the thread shut down. Thank you.

This thread has gone beyond your initial input and there are some fine things being discussed by all sides. Hawld yer horses.

Millicently

Tony EH wrote: »

Then you don't know what you're talking about. Corbyn was even on anti nazi marches going back as far as the 70's.

Yeah, and Gerry was never a member of the IRA.

Hurrache

buried wrote: »

While we're all talking about Antisemitism, why don't RTE look into what Charlie Flanagan's father had to say about that particular race of folk back in the day?

Nobody bit yesterday on this either when you posted it.

Why does anyone have to answer for their father?

buried

Hurrache wrote: »

Nobody bit yesterday on this either when you posted it.

Why does anyone have to answer for their father?

Nobody has to answer for their father at all man, but if you want to start calling out political party members for antisemitic beliefs, you might want to start looking first at who else said such vile $hit first, such as Fine Gael member Oliver J. Flanagan.

I mean, if antisemitism means so much to you, you better hound them all down, no?

Ollie was one of the first. And he was a Anti Semitic piece of $hit only a few years after the world realised Jewish people were flung into ovens.

Lets see a RTE news report about that anytime in the last 80 years.

Hurrache

buried wrote: »

Nobody has to answer for their father at all man, but if you want to start calling out political party members for antisemitic beliefs, you might want to start looking first at who else said such vile $hit first, such as Fine Gael member Oliver J. Flanagan.

I mean, if antisemitism means so much to you, you better hound them all down, no?

Ollie was one of the first. And he was a Anti Semitic piece of $hit only a few years after the world realised Jewish people were flung into ovens.

Lets see a RTE news report about that anytime in the last 80 years.

I didn't call out anyone for anti semitism, and if I was to, it would be them I'd be calling out, not their parents.

buried

Hurrache wrote: »

I didn't call out anyone for anti semitism, and if I was to, it would be them I'd be calling out, not their parents.

Sure you don't know what your talking about at all man, so no surprises there.

Hurrache

buried wrote: »

Sure you don't know what your talking about at all man, so no surprises there.

Ha, you're the one who said I have issues with anti semitism when I never expressed such a thing, and your "out" when proven wrong is to say I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?

What is it with so many posters stomping off with their football when things don't go the way they imagined it?

buried

Hurrache wrote: »

Ha, you're the one who said I have issues with anti semitism when I never expressed such a thing, and your "out" when proven wrong is to say I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?

What is it with so many posters stomping off with their football when things don't go the way they imagined it?

Hold up gasun, you are the one who is trying to claim I posted something yesterday which I actually didn't, so its you who is stomping on your football.

What did I say yesterday?

dxhound2005

buried wrote: »

Nobody has to answer for their father at all man, but if you want to start calling out political party members for antisemitic beliefs, you might want to start looking first at who else said such vile $hit first, such as Fine Gael member Oliver J. Flanagan.

I mean, if antisemitism means so much to you, you better hound them all down, no?

Ollie was one of the first. And he was a Anti Semitic piece of $hit only a few years after the world realised Jewish people were flung into ovens.

Lets see a RTE news report about that anytime in the last 80 years.

There were Fascist movements all over Europe, but fortunately they did not get into power everywhere. The words and deeds of our Fascists pales into insignificance put against the strong collaboration of the Republican movement here with the Nazi regime. And Mary Lou McDonald spoke at a commemoration for one of those Nazi collaborators.

Tony EH

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There were Fascist movements all over Europe, but fortunately they did not get into power everywhere. The words and deeds of our Fascists pales into insignificance put against the strong collaboration of the Republican movement here with the Nazi regime. And Mary Lou McDonald spoke at a commemoration for one of those Nazi collaborators.

Your blueshirt pals actually went to bat for the Fascists in Spain. They fought alongside the nazis and Franco's forces.

dxhound2005

Tony EH wrote: »

Your blueshirt pals actually went to bat for the Fascists in Spain. They fought alongside the nazis and Franco's forces.

I know that. But they did not invite Franco to invade Ireland like the IRA did with Hitler.

buried

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There were Fascist movements all over Europe, but fortunately they did not get into power everywhere. The words and deeds of our Fascists pales into insignificance put against the strong collaboration of the Republican movement here with the Nazi regime. And Mary Lou McDonald spoke at a commemoration for one of those Nazi collaborators.

You got that right man, Eoin O'Duffy went over to Spain to fight for another fascist piece of $hit but when the bullets actually started flying he ran back home like the cowardly worm he was.

Harry Palmr

Who said Civil War politics was dead eh?

buried

History never dies. Thankfully. Watch the perpetually outraged flee from that actual fact.

dxhound2005

buried wrote: »

You got that right man, Eoin O'Duffy went over to Spain to fight for another fascist piece of $hit but when the bullets actually started flying he ran back home like the cowardly worm he was.

During WW2 the IRA were trying to overthrow the State and get the Germans in to govern us. Ironically it was de Valera's government that had to take a firm stand against them.

The IRA shot dead five gardaí during the second World War. The State executed six IRA men

buried

dxhound2005 wrote: »

During WW2 the IRA were trying to overthrow the State and get the Germans in to govern us. Ironically it was de Valera's government that had to take a firm stand against them.

The IRA shot dead five gardaí during the second World War. The State executed six IRA men

So what? The leader of Fine Gael went over to Spain to fight for fascists too. Where is your outrage for the current Fine Gael outfit who are the descendants of that political make-up? You can't have one or the other. You are either all in or you aren't, or else you chose to ignore specifics, which makes your whole morality points totally mute and irrelevant.

Tony EH

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I know that. But they did not invite Franco to invade Ireland like the IRA did with Hitler.

There may have been some members in the 2000 or so that made up the IRA at the time that wouldn't have minded a German invasion of Ireland. But the vast majority of IRA members wouldn't have been on board with that. In fact they would have rightly understood that such a thing (not that it was possible in the first place anyway) would have meant imprisonment or worse for them, considering that the majority of IRA members were left leaning socialists at the time.

The IRA only ever saw the Nazis as a stepping stone for their ultimate goal of a united Ireland and even then, it was only some of them.

But fanciful, wishful thinking, from the likes of Jim O’Donovan, Frank Ryan or Sean Russell is a far different kettle of fish than actually sending people to fight alongside Fascists and Nazis.

Tony EH

dxhound2005 wrote: »

During WW2 the IRA were trying to overthrow the State and get the Germans in to govern us.

This is untrue and you know it.

dxhound2005

Tony EH wrote: »

There may have been some members in the 2000 or so that made up the IRA at the time that wouldn't have minded a German invasion of Ireland. But the vast majority of IRA members wouldn't have been on board with that. In fact they would have rightly understood that such a thing (not that it was possible in the first place anyway) would have meant imprisonment or worse for them, considering that the majority of IRA members were left leaning socialists at the time.

The IRA only ever saw the Nazis as a stepping stone for their ultimate goal of a united Ireland and even then, it was only some of them.

But fanciful, wishful thinking, from the likes of Jim O’Donovan, Frank Ryan or Sean Russell is a far different kettle of fish than actually sending people to fight alongside Fascists and Nazis.

It's what came afterwards that puts them into a different light. If there are Nazi sympathies in the "Blueshirts" they did not convert that into military action anywhere since the 1940's.

But the Republican movement have aligned themselves with some of the most despotic regimes in the world. And used the munitions supplied by these tyrants to carry out mass murder. All as a stepping stone to their ultimate goal. And not just rogue states, but narco terrorists and criminal gangs.

jmayo

buried wrote: »

Nobody has to answer for their father at all man, but if you want to start calling out political party members for antisemitic beliefs, you might want to start looking first at who else said such vile $hit first, such as Fine Gael member Oliver J. Flanagan.

I mean, if antisemitism means so much to you, you better hound them all down, no?

Ollie was one of the first. And he was a Anti Semitic piece of $hit only a few years after the world realised Jewish people were flung into ovens.

Lets see a RTE news report about that anytime in the last 80 years.

Well if you are going to start throwing cr** out about people's familial indiscretions, or worse still familial crimes, then where do you stand on the brother of the former leader of sinn feins being a paedophile?
The same former leader that is still very much in the picture it seems.

It never ceases to amaze me how shinners forget what a huge fooking glass greenhouse they inhabit as they try hurl boulders at others.

BTW has charlie flanagan ever uttered anti-semitic statements ?
Has anyone else currently an elected representative in FG/FF anti-semitic statements?
We do know that an elected member of sinn fein has.

buried wrote: »

History never dies. Thankfully. Watch the perpetually outraged flee from that actual fact.

The fact is the history, and very recent history at that, shows what a despicable organisation sinn fein really is.
Thankfully the rest of us don't do the usual shinner cherry picking of history.

Mad_maxx

Slightly off topic but the painting of the red brigade who went over to fight against the forces of Franco is completely overly charitable

Franco was obviously a tyrannical leader but the other side were backed by stalin

nkl12xtw5goz70

There's a big difference between things done and said 80+ years ago and things done and said within living memory of most.

Sinn Fein's first parliamentary party meeting after the election was attended by a man whom the Irish Times identifies as an IRA commander and member of its army council.

How many other Irish parties had leaders of terrorists groups attending their first meeting after the 2020 general election?

irishguitarlad

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Slightly off topic but the painting of the red brigade who went over to fight against the forces of Franco is completely overly charitable

Franco was obviously a tyrannical leader but the other side were backed by stalin

Yes they were receiving arms and aid from Stalin but you must not forget that the Republican forces that were fighting against Franco were a mixed bunch, they were anarchists, socialists, communists and various other groups fighting together. However they were constantly undermined by the communists within them.

Mad_maxx

irishguitarlad wrote: »

Yes they were receiving arms and aid from Stalin but you must not forget that the Republican forces that were fighting against Franco were a mixed bunch, they were anarchists, socialists, communists and various other groups fighting together. However they were constantly undermined by the communists within them.

What they had planned for Spain wasn't good regardless

irishguitarlad

Mad_maxx wrote: »

What they had planned for Spain wasn't good regardless

We will never know. But what we do know is that Franco was a scumbag.

Martin Lanigan

irishguitarlad wrote: »

We will never know. But what we do know is that Franco was a scumbag.

We know Stalin was a scumbag, so we can make an educated guess.

irishguitarlad

Martin Lanigan wrote: »

We know Stalin was a scumbag, so we can make an educated guess.

So you think Stalin was going to make a hop skip and jump over France and rule Spain?

Martin Lanigan

irishguitarlad wrote: »

So you think Stalin was going to make a hop skip and jump over France and rule Spain?

Is this a serious question?

irishguitarlad

Martin Lanigan wrote: »

Is this a serious question?

We don't know what would have happened after the civil war if the republicans had won. Maybe the communists would have come to the top, maybe the liberals, maybe the socialists, simply put we don't know. All I know is that if Stalin was offering arms to fight(and also to test, both Hitler and Stalin used the spanish civil war as a testing ground for new weapons) against Franco,of course the republicans were going to Accept them, where else were they going to get them? Franco had the army.

RandomViewer

Martin Lanigan wrote: »

On now.

Wonder how many of the 8000 first preference voters knew she was a racist when voting for her.

Anti Israeli sentiment couldn't be described as racist as there are multiple shades of Israeli

Mad_maxx

irishguitarlad wrote: »

So you think Stalin was going to make a hop skip and jump over France and rule Spain?

The Soviet union was an expansionist state, it would have of course wanted a western European state under it's wing

Ipso

RandomViewer wrote: »

Anti Israeli sentiment couldn't be described as racist as there are multiple shades of Israeli

Wars funded and caused by bankers is just another shade of the Rotschilds/juwes controlling money. Maybe she can be the Irish attache for InfoWars.

JohnnyFlash

Was she a fan of the demented mind vomit of Gemma O’Doherty for a while as well?

Martin Lanigan

RandomViewer wrote: »

Anti Israeli sentiment couldn't be described as racist as there are multiple shades of Israeli

She was claiming that Jewish bankers backed Hitler and put him into power. Probably a holocaust denier also.

Lonesomerhodes

Rothschild televised entertainment.


RTE is just a government propaganda machine.

All lies and spin, anyone who pays the TV license to fund these clown to shovel coke up their nose in their Foxrock mansions on €400,000 to €500,000 a year is naive and foolish to say the least!.

Martin Lanigan

Interesting Wikipedia intro.

terenc

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Maurice Cohen of the Jewish council. Tell Israel what to do Maurice, tell them to stop killing Palestinians with tanks. Worried about words when your actions are those of a complete scumbag. Who the **** are you to tell anyone else what to do. If you don't like it here I'm sure Israel will provide an illegal settlement for you and your fellow chosen people.

With the likes of you posting (you are the scumbag) why the fu*k wouldent the Jews fight to defend their Nation against the people who want to destroy them .
Get a life Snowflake and read some history.

Millicently

RTE again pushing the case for overturning the deportation of an illegal migrant. Do they not get why we have borders in this country?

vriesmays

A small town in Ireland sending its youth to Australia only to get replaced by illegals from South America. What's the problem.

Mad_maxx

Millicently wrote: »

RTE again pushing the case for overturning the deportation of an illegal migrant. Do they not get why we have borders in this country?

Neither Claire Byrne or the reporter could contain their delight about this on the news at one earlier

Millicently

vriesmays wrote: »

A small town in Ireland sending its youth to Australia only to get replaced by illegals from South America. What's the problem.

There should be buses and Immigration officials sent to Gort one of these days to send the illegal Brazilians living there back home, that would give an indication of how many of these illegals are living openly here and flouting the law. These people aren't hidden, their kids are enrolled in schools and it's bloody ridiculous. If Charlie Flanagan bends over and takes it up the arse on yet another deportation order I shall be very miffed indeed.

Mad_maxx

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Neither Claire Byrne or the reporter could contain their delight about this on the news at one earlier

Claire Byrne will never meet illegal migrants in her cosseted circle. Nor will she ever be taken seriously as a high-profile journalist, in spite of the expensive makeover.

Millicently

Deleted User wrote: »

Claire Byrne will never meet illegal migrants in her cosseted circle. Nor will she ever be taken seriously as a high-profile journalist, in spite of the expensive makeover.

She might meet some illegals if she hires an illegal migrant as a cleaner, seems to be very right on with these people. Pay them peanuts but pat each other on the back at dinner parties about how they're doing their bit to help the poor illegals.

Zebra3

dxhound2005 wrote: »

But the Republican movement have aligned themselves with some of the most despotic regimes in the world. And used the munitions supplied by these tyrants to carry out mass murder. All as a stepping stone to their ultimate goal. And not just rogue states, but narco terrorists and criminal gangs.

And FFFG and Labour aligned this state with the world's leading terrorist state.

Yet there's never any discussion about this on RTE.

America uses this country as a military base. Dropping chemical weapons on kids in Vietnam while killing 3-4 million, no bother. Invading countless countries, no bother. Overthrowing democratic countries, no bother. Embargoing a country for overthrowing a corrupt, right-wing dictatorship, no bother.

FFFG and Labour always stand by America and their war crimes. No condemnations. RTE give them a free pass.

Imagine RTE covering American history and talking about the genocide of the natives or apartheid against blacks? Not a chance.

Raconteuse

Saying criticism of Israeli state and military policy regarding Palestine is anti semitism, is like saying criticism of today's feminism is misogyny. It is very easy to despise both. I do. I don't feel "dirty" for not picking one or the other.

Regarding anti semitism in the British Labour Party though, it does appear to be a problem going by this Panorama documentary I saw: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006p8c - actual Jewish members and former members of Labour confirmed it. None of them said Corbyn is anti Semitic (and i don't believe he is) but they all referred to a staunch element within Labour's ranks, and some questionable conduct by Ken Livingstone.

Tony EH

The number of complaints amounted to 0.08% of the party. Hardly representative of the party as a whole and ito the bargain, a lot of those complaints were simply "somebody said something...", which is hardly solid. As for Ken Livingstone, he was correct. The Haavara agreement is historical fact.

The anti Semitism slur aimed at Labour was a load of hot air. A hot air slur that worked, though, because shouting "anti semite" never needs to be backed up.

Millicently

Raconteuse wrote: »

Saying criticism of Israeli state and military policy regarding Palestine is anti semitism, is like saying criticism of today's feminism is misogyny. It is very easy to despise both. I do. I don't feel "dirty" for not picking one or the other.

Regarding anti semitism in the British Labour Party though, it does appear to be a problem going by this Panorama documentary I saw: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0006p8c - actual Jewish members and former members of Labour confirmed it. None of them said Corbyn is anti Semitic (and i don't believe he is) but they all referred to a staunch element within Labour's ranks, and some questionable conduct by Ken Livingstone.

Labour is a cesspit of Anti-Semitism and pro Islam. For crying out loud, it was only recently that Corbyn was asked for comment on the Muslim grooming gangs that have been raping little girls in Rotherham for decades, his response 'white people are guilty of quite a lot of crime'.

vriesmays

1% of voters from the recent election are concerned with immigration. Let them stay and bring over their extended families. Charlie Flanagan's grandchildren can deal with the mess in 2040.

Millicently

vriesmays wrote: »

1% of voters from the recent election are concerned with immigration. Let them stay and bring over their extended families. Charlie Flanagan's grandchildren can deal with the mess in 2040.

I see UL students union issued a statement today pissing and moaning about how accommodation for 1st years and overseas students is unfair to the rest of them, or basically they're starting to find that the wealthy non EU national students paying the universities huge amounts of money are taking priority is making them wake up to reality.



There's a finite amount of property available to rent/buy. The less property there is the higher the demand and the lower the standard. Coveney said that over 80K migrants a year, presumably working ones, are moving to Ireland every year, that is a massive amount of property being eaten up. I'm all in favour of skilled migrants coming to work in Ireland, we need skilled migration, we don't need unskilled migrants coming in. There was a time when 3rd level students could get part time work in bars and restaraunts but now that work is being taken up by illegal migrants and the people coming in claiming to be here to learn English who are working a hell of a lot more than 20 hours a week. Watch and see Charlie Flannagan overturn the deportation for the illegal migrant Brazilian family this week.

vriesmays

Millicently wrote: »

Watch and see Charlie Flannagan overturn the deportation for the illegal migrant Brazilian family this week.

I don't believe you:
https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2020/0224/1117278-lucivaldo-araujo-da-silva/